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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I'll get this out of the way early: I'm fairly new to this forum, and this hobby (well, as a discerning adult, anyway, I went through my youthful GW phase like everyone else), and Reaper is a very old hand on the scene - so my knowledge is perhaps not what it could be. I've researched to the best of my abilities, but I'm sure to have made mistakes, and left out useful information, and I'd very much appreciate it if you'd let me know where they are, so I can fix them/add the info. In particular, I'm not so hot on things like kicktraq, so if people want kickstarter stats and things, let me know (or make a post yourself, maybe). The images below are Reaper's, so if any of them need taking down because of copyvio, I'll be happy to do that.

E: :siren: As of 2 October, Bones II is a thing that is happening.:siren:

It is a thing I will be doing my best to stuidiously avoid paying attention to, as I have been forbidden from doign so by Management until I've painted all of Bones 1 (and also, unless there was some real assurance that RotW orders wouldn't be as messed up as they were this time, probably wouldn't order again). So, if people want to keep the thread up-to-date, or indeed close this one and make a new one, I wouldn't mind too much.

So, who are Reaper Miniatures?
At the risk of sounding facetious, these guys. Also these guys, on YouTube.

In a little more detail, Reaper is a Texas-based company primarily making miniatures for the hobbyist, and for tabletop RPGs, but also selling paints and modelling gear, and running an annual con. They also have a thriving forum, run several game systems (about which I know little, so please do post some information if you have it), and are licensed manufacturers for Pathfinder minis.

So, what do they make, like, specifically?
Several ranges of minis in white metal, resin, and plastic. One range, Legendary Encounters, comes pre-painted and pre-assembled, whilst the rest require you to lavish them with glue and paint and poo poo. Well, preferably less of the poo poo, but you know, whatever floats your boat. They produce minis in a variety of scales, genres and styles, from the outlandish far-future/time-travelly Chronoscope range, replete with cyber-gorillas, zombie-hunters, and mind flayers Bathalians, to the traditional fantasy Dark Heaven Legends and Pathfinder ranges; and from the steampunky Savage Worlds to the mechs of CAV strike operations.

But many, if not most, of us are here because of Bones. So...


Dark Heaven Bones! What's the deal?
The Dark Heaven Bones range premiered in early 2012 with a test range of 5 or 6 minis, priced from the large Purple Worm at $2.99, to packs of 3 minion-type critters for 3 to 5 bucks. Individual PC-type figures come in at around $1.50, which in a world where a single resin mini can set you back anywhere from $5 to $20, was a refreshing breath of fresh air. But it didn't stop there. 2012 was the year of the Bones Kickstarter.

Reaper announced the Reaper Miniatures Bones: an evolution of gaming miniatures Kickstarter campaign on 23 July 2013, and proceeded to utterly school the world of miniatures Kickstarters for the next two months, earning a grand total of $3,429,235 with nearly 18,000 backers, and a place in the record books as one of the 3 highest-grossing Kickstarters of all time, funding more than 1000 times over. It was an astonishing achievement, fuelled by excellent marketing, clever product placement (it included a healthy lump of Pathfinder minis, and had noticeable spikes in funding when each PF-related set/add-on was announced), high quality of miniatures, but most of all, outstanding, staggering, amazing value. The basic Vampire pledge, for $100 plus $25 shipped outside North America, started out with just 30 minis - decent value, but nothing special....

Over the course of two months, however, we followed Mr Bones on his epic journey though the neat tracking image as the offer ballooned to well over 150 minis, some of which were large sizes, as well as some excellent-value add-ons (the highest price, $25 for a GIGANTIC dracolich) up to a mighty total, for the completionist, of more than 300 minis for around $1 each delivered, as well as a nice figure case, and several other promotional items, paint sets, PDFs and so on. Most of the minis are in the flexible white Bones plastic, but several are in translucent coloured plastic, and the promotional Sophie figure (the Reaper succubus mascot) is in white metal, though this could be, and often was, traded in for $25 of other stuff. They also earned enough to move their production (though, not for the Kickstarter, for the ongoing Bones range) out of China and into the USA.

The ongoing success of the move does remain to be seen however; several buyers of massive orders do plan on reselling at undercutting prices, and there are worries that the market may already have been glutted (certainly, I've got more than enough minis coming to last me, at current painting speeds, for about 3 lifetimes, but they've probably gained a customer for their paints, which I decided not to get in the KS) - so watch this space.

They also generated a minor web-celeb in Reaper Brian, the face of the campaign, who appeared on multiple YouTube vids following the campaign showing off the minis and explaining the (somewhat arcane and confusing in places) ways in which the pledges could add up to staggering value for money. Reaper Kit did the demos during the campaign which appear on the main campaign page.

It was a wild, and expensive, ride, and massive numbers of goons are expecting big boxes of white plastic (and paints, and carry cases, and all sorts of other goodies) in the mail over the next couple of months, as KS update #89 recently announced the intention to ship all the KS rewards by the end of May, starting with the simplest ones early on, with some time off for ReaperCon in mid-April.

Accordingly, to move discussion out of the crowdfunding thread and avoid overtaking it entirely yet again, come one, come all, and discuss your Bones boners in here. And all of Reaper's other awesome stuff as well, should you be so inclined.

Recommended aerosol spray primers and paints:


Army Painter white and coloured primers
Krylon Dual Paint + Primer
Duplicolor Sandable – slight tackiness possible
Rust-oleam Painter’s Touch Ultra Cover 2x – slight tackiness possible

Problem aerosol spray primers and paints:

Krylon white primer – doesn’t bond, stays tacky
Testors Enamel flat black – stays tacky
Walmart Valu flat white – stays tacky
Krylon Primer red-brown – stays tacky
Citadel spray
Plasti-kote super primer gray - stays tacky, rubs off easily.

Resellers/retailers
The Bones range will be selling to trade at well below RRP, and several resellers have already mentioned that they will be offering discounts of up to 40%. A list of them can be found here:
http://www.warpathgames.com

Any more, let me know.

Other useful threads/posts:
The Crowdfunding Thread. In case Reaper decide to smash the KS world again (they're currently offering the Clockwork Dragon as a reward for another company's KS, should you feel you need more of those for cheap).
The painting and modelling megathread. Discuss specific painting and modelling questions and post photos of your awesome/cackhanded painted models in there; take any derails about the KS, the company etc etc into here.
A great effortpost about Julie Guthrie, of Nethyrmaul fame, here.
Over on the Reaper boards, a user by the name of Wren has written up three useful guides to Bones.
Bones: Frequently Asked Questions - Unofficial!
Bones: The First Coat is the Difference
Bones: Preparation (Glues, Putties, Mould Lines, Etc.)

So, on with the show; discuss your giant Bone(r)s here.

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Feb 18, 2014

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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Ta, updated.

For the record, my somewhat modest haul:

Your Selection:
  • Vampire x1 $100
  • Fire Giants x1 $10
  • Frost Giants x1 $10
  • Mind Your Manors x1 $10
  • Figure Case x1 $25
  • Demons x1 $15
  • Deathsleet x1 $10
  • Undead Giant x1 $10
  • Clockwork Dragon x1 $15
  • Red Dragon x1 $10
  • Spider Centaurs x1 $10
  • Fire Giant Warriors x1 $10
  • Forces Of Nature x1 $15
  • Frost Wyrm x1 $10
  • Deep Dwellers x2 $14
  • Hydra x1 $15
  • Kaladrax Reborn x1 $10
  • Dark Heroes x1 $5
  • Kickstarter Sophie x1 $25
I did take the Sophie, in the end, mostly because I thought the bike and the wings might come in handy for something. I skipped a couple of the bigger things I saw less chance of myself using, including Cthulhu, with the possible intention of buying them later directly from supplier if I changed my mind.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I'm actually kinda glad I didn't pop for a Nethyrmaul, I've no loving clue how I'd use something that big. Even Kaladrax is pushing it a bit.

And yeah, I can imagine how people would be being dicks about getting their orders first. I'll be happy to get mine whenever (indeed, if it comes a little late it wouldn't be a biggie as I should be moving house in the next month or two, finally, and moving it home from where it's being delivered at work, then from one house to the other, would seem a little pointless.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
...damnit.

But yeah, that's a wicked idea, I think I shall do that with a couple of the dragons, at the very least.

Now to work out how to make bookends and gaming bases combine...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Mm, I'm a little disappointed in the clockwork dragon myself; I might see if I can do some conversion work on the wings to make them look more like leather rather than metal plates. But most of the skteches have turned into finished models incredibly faithfully; I'm really impressed by that.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Lethemonster posted:

This is probably going to sound odd but if any UK goons want any Bones stuff painted for free I'm totally willing to do it. I really wanna paint some of the stuff and see what the models are like but have no room to keep anything myself. And I just like painting poo poo for people.

Gonna try and buy a vampire set anyway. I probably have floorspace somewhere in the apartment.

That sounds like a deal and a half to me. Where are you, roughly?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Cool, I'll drop you a line once my haul comes in. Thanks =)

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Hey Lethe - I might be interested in trading some of the bits I'm less interested in for painting services =) I'll discuss once it's all come in.

OP updated BTW to include the awesome Julie Guthrie post and a section on resellers.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I took Sophie mostly because I thought the bike could be fun. And because I couldn't work out what to do with the extra dosh if I traded her in... I don't need more than one case, I'm quite sure.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I could've sworn the basic KS one wasn't naked, but looking back, it does seem I'm wrong. E: no, just almost naked. You had to specifically order the nude one. Reaper :arghfist:

This is the one thing that irks me about Reaper is quite how much of their stuff is annoyingly cheesecakey/antifeminist/whateverthefuck you call it. The amount of boob windows I'm going to have to cover with GS when I get these D:

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Apr 6, 2013

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Mm, a lot of them I like apart from the stupid boob windows, which would be why I'll probably fix them.

And yeah, I know the history of them, which is why the chainmail bikinis etc bother me an awful lot less than modern companies which are doing it on purpose, from new, and unironically, in 2012. Call my hypocritical if you will.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
No, I didn't; I'm pretty glad of it actually. I'm mildly irked that they felt the need to sculpt a naked one at all (though presumably the sculpting was done the other way round, nude first then clothes added).

Those recently linked succubi don't bother me so much, for some reason - partly they're realistic, not-overly-exaggerated women, partly the poses are tasteful, and partly yeah, they're sex demons, it's to be expected they might be naked. It's poo poo like the colonial marine girl who's armoured everywhere apart from her chest, which pokes through a loving cutout in her power armour that bug me.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Bachtere posted:

A good unboxing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJrW3VIuWL0

What a loving bargain, seeing it all splayed out like that.

"This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

WTF did it have proprietary music or something?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
UK also. PITA because I really would like to know roughly the size of box I'm going to have to carry home from work on the bus...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Weirdo posted:

It looks like you could hold it under one arm (imagine three or four laptops stacked up), although these guys only went for the Vampire level with no frills added.

Smaller than expected then.

The big dragons might add some size though...

Thanks

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Yeah, from the sound of things they've been good about that kind of thing.

I may well get in touch with them myself and let them know they can hold off on my shipping until I've moved house, wheneverthefuck that may be.

(Buying a flat is a loooong-rear end process goddamnit I want it done)

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Added to OP, thanks.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I just exchanged contracts on my new flat :D

Now my reaper box is going to be delivered to work whilst I'm taking two weeks off to move D:

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Have any UK goons got their bones yet? Did you have to pay any import duties or similar? Is this normal for this kind of thing?

On gluechat, has anyone tried to pull their bones apart? Are they superglued and thus breakable, or are they poly cemented or similar? I'd probably prefer to break most things apart for painting is all...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
OK, so, I decided not to get Nethymaul because I thought it was bigger than Kaladrax.

Arg Reaper why must you torture me so!

I wants them now, the preciouses...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
People are impatient fuckheads. I know I am, but I know better than to gripe about it when I've got an awesome deal coming and plenty of other things to spend my time on before it does.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
And to think, I was worried about it arriving whilst I was off work moving house, a month and a half ago. I've only just got the internet back up, and it's still not here D:

Which is good, because at this rate I might actually have sort out where I'm going to put it by the time it arrives!

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Rest of the World going out tomorrow :d:D:D

I think I have 11 line items, so whothefucknows when mine ships. I await eagerly.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I'm fairlyu sure they said they were getting to RotW midweek last week, but that might have been RotW generic vampire boxes.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
gently caress me I'm getting twitchy about this. I KNOW they're coming, and I KNOW I have a slightly awkward order and am foreign, but damnit, I wants my bones aaaaarg.

*twitch*

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

lilljonas posted:

It also seems to only be US orders until the end now.

It better loving not be, given that mine hasn't shipped yet.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Yup; any of the various formms of cyanoacrylate. A gel-consistency one is probably best for not-going-everywhere purposes. And it even doubles as a bandaid when you stab yourself with your hobby knife...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Pierzak posted:

Me neither :smith:

:ohdear: me either. Where are all of us poor lasties located?

E: I'm in the UK, FTR

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Mm, that's a little irksome, but I suppose understandable given that we're a relatively small portion of the customer base and they're busy as gently caress. But screw USPS at this point, send a drat truck you cocks.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
What do people think of the plausibility of magnetising the heads of the hydra so they can be chopped off (and regenerated, naturally) by eager heroes? It would be very cool to have a hydra mini with actually varying numbers of heads...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
What size would work, do you think?

I'm not TOO concerned about organic, I play mostly alongside WotC minis, so basically anything will look better...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I did wonder about that. Probably 2 pins though, to stop it swivelling round.

I need to order some magnets anyway though...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Well, I'll give it a shot, when it comes. Hopefully shipping soon!

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
... I'm going to need a bigger table.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I noticed they were sending them to UK yesterday. I compulsively reloaded the site about every half hour, then checked my email each time.

No luck yet D:

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Yeah, it didn't update all day so I guess (I hope) it broke - given that I don't have my shipping note yet. I think they were shipping ~1000 a day last I checked, so hopefully it might all be polished off by friday.

E: yeah confirmed on the big book o'face

"Due to USPS policies, our tracker data is very out of sync. We're going to take it down now. Goodbye tracker! You were fun!"

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I STILL haven't even got a delivery note yet so gently caress you all AAAAAH!

That aside, seriously, is anyone else still missing theirs? I don't want to bother Reaper about it too much, but there comes a time when even I start to lose patience.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I just got mail, it said that they're hoping (emphasis hers) to have the international vampire level pledges (and I note, I'm not sure whether this means all of the Vampire+, or just the plain Vampire pledges) done by the end of the month, if not by 1 AUgust, and confirmed that mine is still in the system.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
If they fit, one idea you might want to consider is gluing four of them together in a square to make rat swarms :D

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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Baby Sathanas posted:

UGH just got hit by a customs bill of 25 quid to get my Bones. Really kind of annoyed by that...

I'd heard that a couple of times. I thought that Reaper were supposed to be covering all the shipping and customs costs, but apparently not for the UK.

Sigh.

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