nine-gear crow posted:

Not just acceptance, but also redemption, in this case for the War Doctor. It seems, just looking at it from the outside that that's the reason why he's there with 10 and 11 on whatever mission they're off on in the 50th. He's the Doctor that they poo poo on for doing what he did in the Time War, the one that's been stripped of the title of Doctor. So it seems likely that he might be trying to redeem himself and by the end The Day of the Doctor he'll have done something worthy of restoring his Doctor-ness, if only in the eyes of 10 and 11.

Or who knows, honestly...

Ephemeron posted:

This minisode retroactively redeemed EoT for me. If weird magical elixirs are the elevated form of Time Lord science, then Master's rebirth ritual scene does make sense, after all.

The_Doctor posted:

And how easily he put it on. "Huh, a fez came through a portal. Better put it on, quick."

quote:

Moffat had met him for a "very amiable and gentlemanly" conversation and the actor considered it "quite seriously" before saying no. "It's just not the sort of thing he does," concludes Moffat. "The ninth Doctor turns up for the battle but not the party."

Bicyclops posted:

Not necessarily. The Time War existing in some bubble (wellll, it's not a bubble, but etc.) outside of time leaves a lot of room for creating some kind of a sixth dimension with extra-time travel or something. They will not do that, because it's too confusing and narrative-wise it isn't very interesting, but still, the rules of time travel (what few Doctor Who follows) are completely out the window for the war.

edit: wait, I'm in the spoiler thread again

Senor Tron posted:

I never saw it as distant past so much as their still being echos of the Daleks and Time Lords scattered across the universe.

In the Time War it was chaos, total war with the close to godlike powers of Gallifrey and a fully grown Dalek Empire. When the Time Lock was put in place it was the time travel equivalent of a nuclear strike, and removed the Daleks and Time Lords from all of existence. The universe pulled together and the gaps were smoother over, all direct signs of them gone. However their shadows remained. Signs of things the Time Lords and Daleks had done still existing, but no matter how hard you looked, or how much you travelled back in time you would never be able to encounter the cause that resulted in those effects.

Chairman Capone posted:

But this isn't the only way that problem has come up. Eccleston talked about being able to sense that there were no Time Lords left in existence. Yet just a few years from them a whole planet of them shows back up for at least a bit, not to mention the Master spent a few years of his own time dicking around the Utopia ship with Lucy Saxon and his robot sphere friends. And that's even taking into account that the Master was somehow able to jam his Time Lord essence during his time on Earth by using the cell phone network, which always seemed pretty dumb to me.

Captain Fargle posted:

Especially since Skaro got blown up way the hell back before the Time War escalated.

Teek posted:

Tom Baker claims he's in the 50th:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-sagers/exclusive-tom-baker-to-ap_b_4295773.html

Of course it's Tom though, so he could just be loving with us.

quote:

"I am in the special," said Baker. "I'm not supposed to tell you that, but I tell you that very willingly and specifically; the BBC told me not to tell anybody but I'm telling you straightaway."

Box of Bunnies posted:

Nah, they're recycling the Shada footage again. The technicians he mentions are the video technicians that cropped the footage for widescreen and did the HD conversion.

Blasphemeral posted:

... "Arcadia"?

Dirt posted:

So I have been dipping into Classic Who recently, and I have a question:

I watched "The Five Doctors". Was kinda weird. What was the deal with Tom Baker not really being in it? Like he was "in the movie" but had no speaking parts.

Also I have a question about Rassilon: I take it he is like some super powerful Time Lord wizard kind of character, The Founder of Time Lord society, etc. But he was "dead" in the Five Doctors. Any info on how he popped back up, and was apparently President of the Time Lords again, in "The End of Time"? I caught that again the other night, and it didn't really explain much I guess. How did Rassilon manage to throw that diamond out of the time lock to earth? They never did clarify that did they? Timey Wimey plot hole stuff I guess?


I also watched the Caves of Androzani last night. I think I like Peter Davison a lot.

Mortanis posted:

Or accidentally stumbling across Ten and Eleven mid-adventure and quietly sneaking back out. Subdued and simple. No pomp and circumstance.

Box of Bunnies posted:

Pessimist (realist?) BoB tells me it's probably just a neat little visual reference in an establishing shot that won't lead to anything more substantial. Ideally, for me, we'd see both William Russell and Carole Ann Ford as Ian and Susan in this, even if it was just for a scene each that doesn't really matter to the overall plot. It'd be fanwanky, but there's no harm in getting a bit fanwanky in the celebration of fifty years of the show, especially when fanwanky means revisiting the two remaining member of the original core cast.

Asema posted:

What happened with the humans and the zygons and if they ever came to a peace treaty because oh my god there was 5 seconds left before London explodes.

2house2fly posted:

I remember reading (possibly in this thread) that he had a falling out with Moffat because he thought the script for the 50th special was crappy, that sounded depressingly likely at the time but since the special seems to have turned out quite well I'm not so sure now.

McDragon posted:

So have they finally managed to put a lid on the spoiler pot? Keeping 13 loving Doctors under wraps is impressive. They just have to gag Tom Baker next time.

marktheando posted:

Yeah saying he has aged the best is just crazy talk. Tom looks ancient, because he is.

Not sure why we are discussing this in the spoiler thread.

DirtyRobot posted:

Capaldi as the beginning of a new cycle or something is a bit weird since he was one of the 13 or whatever in the 50th

notsowelp posted:

No we didn't.

Teek posted:

Here's a supposed spoiler breakdown of the Christmas Special via Gallifrey Base. If true, it's obviously missing a lot of context for some things, like the Silence apparently being good guys in the whole matter and the cracks of time appearing:

Christmas Town

New Leaf posted:

That kind of sucks for his character. He's coming off this massive victory and he's just going to get ganked immediately afterwards.

nine-gear crow posted:

That's an awful lot of wrinkles on his face for a guy in his late 20's/early30's. Did they morph parts of Capaldi's face onto him or something? Because otherwise that just looks really weird.

Mortanis posted:

That's been the focus of the last two seasons of Smith's run. Retroactively, we now know that Smith's Doctor has known that he is at the end of his entire life - not just the end of his regeneration with a new one waiting for him. Running from Lake Silencio in S6 and Trenzalore in S7 have a different twist if it's not just Smith hiding from the end of "his" run as the Doctor, but his entire life, if he knows that showing up at either event is the absolute end of everything for him. 2/3rds of Smith's run is about the inevitability of his demise.

Barry Foster posted:

Actually, the more I look at it, the more it looks like something a gameshow presenter would wear.

Hopefully it works better in motion/with whatever eccentricities are included on the front.

Tomtrek posted:

twoot posted:

According to someone on another forum, who got it from yet another forum, the previously posted spoilers is a 100% accurate plot description and its caused a minor shitstorm involving internal BBC memos, several set people being fired, and future series are to be filmed in complete lockdown.

Anyone know anything about this?

Republican Vampire posted:

So, according to the Daily Star the 'ghost' of a 'huge favourite' appears to Eleven in the TARDIS just before he regenerates.

So it's probably River, but it might also be Amy. I'm kinda hoping for Idris, but that's pretty unlikely considering that she didn't crop up in one of Moff's episodes.

Gup posted:

Well, here we go!



I like it!

DirtyRobot posted:

Look, showrunners, do this, have a few more appearances with David Bradley as the first doctor, a few appearances with Tom Baker dropping non-sensical-yet-enigmatic hints, and your show will achieve perfection. Perfection.

marktheando posted:

It's probably for the best you don't remember to be honest.

Republican Vampire posted:

Apparently she's playing a banker who dresses and presumably behaves similarly to Madame Kovarian and Miss Kizlet for reasons that have nothing to do with Moffat having something against powerful women.

McGann posted:

I would LOVE this. John Hurt has what I imagine could be a great voice for audio, assuming he can adjust to the format. Another way to go about it would use him for narration, and the majority of the story be a flashback with a "younger" John Hurt substitute for the War Doctor. Would cut down on the paycheck too, which I'd imagine would be another road block to getting him on audio.