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FelchTragedy
Jul 2, 2002

FelchTragedy.
Internet, I call forth your power!
Let's T_Roll.
New Orleans

Without looking at the rest of the thread and skimming the New Orleans ones before:

I have a solve for New Orleans. I think it's pretty solid. Just realised that we send people like Burnstyle out.

What do I do?

FelchTragedy fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Apr 20, 2019

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FelchTragedy
Jul 2, 2002

FelchTragedy.
Internet, I call forth your power!
Let's T_Roll.
New Orleans

Drunk Nerds posted:

Message burnstyle and ask. Although he found a lot of plaster that strongly resembled the found casques at his really good solve spot last year.

Also what is the terminology? I have a 'possible solution' I guess defeats any ambiguity. I looked at it again and saw other stuff and refined it. I now have to look through the forums for these things.

If the podcast is the Lafayette park one where there was a sewage pipe - mine differs. Just listened to it. Have to consult the quest4treasure for the NOLA finds.

Oh just reading your image summary.

PS I am in the UK so adventuring out is a whole heap of hard. My dream is that I locate the stuff and people will say it's the FelchTragedy solution. It will force people to say Felch and that may be the real treasure.

FelchTragedy fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Apr 21, 2019

FelchTragedy
Jul 2, 2002

FelchTragedy.
Internet, I call forth your power!
Let's T_Roll.

burnstyle posted:

Got your message. Sorry I dont have the PM upgrade here.

I think I know where you are going with your verse pairing though.

You can email me, I sent you a reply on q4t.

Well yes but there may be some extra stuff people haven't considered. I am kind of shocked that no one has matched some of the stuff though. Will E-mail. Managed to get some better pics on street view. My only concern is crazies seeing it and being stupid. Also please post here in this thread an overall criticism of whether it is OK, Good or batshit. Obviously don't repost it. I saw in one thread people refering to us as SA secret forum, misunderstanding that the general :10bux: is to keep out a majority of casual but mad or child posters.

Would like a link to your broken casque find pictures. All threads are labyrinthine.

Also I would like to credit that some of the stuff is inspired by people in this thread. Again labyrinthine to find it through the hundred of posts but will try and be humble in that I got it from someone else and where if I can remember. Thinking might encrypt it and post it here too as proof I came up with it. Release the key at a later date.

Encrypted and a version sent to Burnstyle.

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FelchTragedy fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Apr 21, 2019

FelchTragedy
Jul 2, 2002

FelchTragedy.
Internet, I call forth your power!
Let's T_Roll.

burnstyle posted:

I'm happy to help you work on it more. If you would like.

Honestly with your verse choice. I thought you would be somewhere else.

Only pasted in second half of thing in Email it seems. Somehow didn't get fully copied. Re-sent with some responses.

Also only vague responses in this thread. If you want a more specific response. then mail. Just if what I said had legs of any sort.

FelchTragedy fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Apr 22, 2019

FelchTragedy
Jul 2, 2002

FelchTragedy.
Internet, I call forth your power!
Let's T_Roll.
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OK so this my current city for posterity. Will publish when and if the casque is found in that city.

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It is being reviewed.

I also live overseas and it's difficult logistically for me to go there.

This encoding is easier to unlock in terms of file and text manipulation.

I intend to reveal at some point, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it would I.

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People are now breaking their wrists by pressing scroll down twice.

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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:

Also the harder they believe they have the correct answer (double-secret encoding lol), the kookier their stupid “solve.” It’s a universal law.

I assure you, this nutjob’s solve will be embarrassingly dumb on its face and make you wonder how someone this obviously deluded can even find their way home every day unassisted.

I don't want to come off as having the hubris of some of the other solve posters. I know that there is a lot of free association and pareidolia in some people's ideas. It's kind of the point of this thing. However my stuff is not just second guessed, it is refined multiple times to a point I think it is there. There are references in there that I think might be weak, however they are denoted in my descriptions as being so. There may be coincidences and there may be false positives. However they are usually alongside stronger things that support or may be actual sole answers.
Multiple things direct to certain aspects of this solve/solution whatever the gently caress you call it, that I was blown away by. Also lets shout out to some of the astute people on this thread who discovered stuff too. You were great. I have a few more things to add to it as addendums to that I will edit and add at the end. However if I am right some of the aspects I'm unsure about that require a feet on the ground look can be ascertained for fun by people. The minor visual painting clues for example that I can't quite see in zoomed detail in the real world. Also I might correct any ambiguity in my writing after I get feedback. Then I will return to my spaceship with Space Lord Lucan and Captain Shergar. and Nessy the pet dinosaur to find treasure on another world.

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Charleston

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Right, but I caught that "between two arms" might mean the intersection point of two different pointing statues. I think I was the first to suggest that (in this thread at least).

Otherwise yeah you'd have to go through the state archaeologist's office and the park management, which discovery appears to be doing.


Who had the convincing location in this thread in case someone did? Looked through your post collection for reference but not sure it was quoted.

Also if you've put it around where I think you might have put it roughly, I reckon it will be wrong.

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Right, but I caught that "between two arms" might mean the intersection point of two different pointing statues. I think I was the first to suggest that (in this thread at least).

Otherwise yeah you'd have to go through the state archaeologist's office and the park management, which discovery appears to be doing.


Dude you are local to Charleston, up for a mission? Time is of the Essence with Discovery channel digging. I won't ask you to do that much but will be cool and not destructive.

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I grew up there but I don't live there any more, no.

No worries dude.

I think I worked out where the digspot is.

The process goes.

Work out digspot usually in small hours of morning.
Wake up next day, look at things again.
Start looking up what other people know to see if they discovered stuff.
Find out stuff and confirm other things.
Also start confirming things because you get the gist of what is going on.
Have a bucket load of confirmers.

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The Human Cow posted:

I am, and I've been doing wrist-specific workouts for years to get me ready for this moment.

Can you respond with PMs?

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RatHat posted:

A Discovery channel team got permission for a dig next month

Which place was that? If it was Charleston that was already done on the 8th.

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Louisville goons sound off. I have an excellent digspot. PM me if you can. Might need to move swiftly.

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Nocheez posted:

Faaaaart.

I want a few Louisville Goons btw I know that there is a team doing stuff.

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Paul Proteus posted:

I live in Louisville.

Cool I think 3 peeps would be good.

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Paul Proteus posted:

PM if you want, but multiple people shouldn't be required for this.

PM sent. You were boots on the ground.

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I gave out the solve on Sunday to Paul and Merlot. Any feedback?

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Paul Proteus posted:

I responded to your PM. I don't think this solve makes sense.

For the sake of the other readers I've responded to that and I disagree.

All the verses except the first line of the way having a twin are accounted for and they point to an small area of land. They also absolutely have a straightforward and logical connection. I maintain it's a reasonable location to look.

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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

Post your solve, dude. Nobody's going to 'steal' anything and it's a fun point of discussion in a waning thread.

I might do after they've had a private chance to look at the spot. This thread is monitored by outsiders and at the moment they can be a bit more casual about it. It was the point of doing it privately.

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Paul and Merlot I have responded to the criticisms and want to know if one or both of you are going to check out the spot. I have an tiny update to the potential dig area.

Also as I mentioned to Merlot I found some more confirmers to that spot.

DandyLion posted:

Holy smokes this really cracks me up, I'm out at Cherokee Park like every other weekend.

Guess its time to bring my shovel...

What do you reckon to checking out a spot for me? When is your next weekend round that park?

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DandyLion posted:

Either this coming Sunday or next (pending my wife's work schedule).

Search spot provided.

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DandyLion posted:

Either this coming Sunday or next (pending my wife's work schedule).

Did you venture there? Also when you do, photos of the land where I said please. E-mail pics to me for now.

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DandyLion posted:

Not yet, didn't make it out this weekend so it'll be next (this coming Sunday).

Dude you still on for tomorrow?

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DandyLion posted:

Heading out now. Will report back shortly.

Excitement and an exploration organised on SA. Remember, pictures but only mail them to me first I might spot something that fits with my model.

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Jubs posted:

He broke his wrist taking a photo.

No a set of dig explorations were made. Reassessing as the place and things there have changed since their last internet image was taken and with that we are discussing what may be better candidates for locations based on the photos taken.

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Urban Smurf posted:

Note the L on the post here, possibly an ideogram for "three oclock" if you consider how Chinese characters might be read. Joan of Arc (a good as any reference to a work by Twain) in the background and just a bit farther beyond her is the Laocoon sculpture in the overgrowth. This would be my best guess on "high posts are three" meaning these highway marker posts displaying what can be read as a "three" in clock terms, though they arent made of wood unless you want to get further creative and say Lincoln Logs are made of wood...



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Do we have any Milwaukee goons who can go out and take some pictures?

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Cobalt60 posted:

yes what

I've been following this thread since the start, deeply hoping things get found and also sometimes shitposting.

There is no major thread with a mention of a reveal in the quest4treasure forum. It would have been stickied. Burnstyle's team has backed up those forums when there was a threat of the forums being shut down.

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burnstyle posted:

When all the drama started happening on q4t, the owner threatened to shut the forum down. That made a lot of us nervous so I set out to archive the site.

I was able to backup all of the threads in raw html, and post them in a way where they were public and searchable.

I also set a url to the backup... quest4pleasure.com

Maybe he is talking about that? I dunno.

Thanks for the backup by the way, should have said last week.

Naming no names what proportion of the people active in searching do you reckon are Trump voters? Not just conservatives, but Trump voters.

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Well yeah. It's the fact that a bunch of people searching for a stuff in a book based on a positive and historical theme of immigration - fictionalised for the fairy stuff of course, might be discovered by people who voted for the anti-immigration candidate.

Also they are supposedly pattern seeing and they haven't seen the pattern of the support of psychological evil in their voting choices. They are big old evidence deniers.

I have had people probe and dig for me and would consider letting other local people dig up my locations. They get the casque - I get the credit, but I don't want that digger to be a twat.

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DandyLion posted:

Heading out now. Will report back shortly.

Hello are you still available to search? You have gone a bit dead on the old Email -You said you lost your phone and all. It's just things are hotting up in the area I mentioned. I have another inkling that I haven't posted yet in an Email yet but holy smokes it's interesting..

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DandyLion posted:

Hey bud yes sorry shits been crazy hectic with travel. I'll shoot you an email.

The latest search thing that I promised was sent for Sunday Morning hope you caught it.

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I post this here before anywhere else on the internet. Watch this before EU tonight.
I am doing a San Francisco one as we speak.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs23Do5QDQQ

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The date stamps of these posts are important to prove they are before Expedition Unknown and anywhere else on the internet.
Also it's the motherload of answers.

San Francisco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70Bm-d-rmo

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Again date stamped post here first on good ole SA.

New York
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZq0Gu2yUzU

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Boston Globe posted:

One afternoon this summer, Jason Krupat went for a run after work. He left his office downtown and, as usual, chose a route that took him along the waterfront in the North End.

He was trying to lose some weight, yes, but those daily runs were also an opportunity for him to clear his head and ponder a puzzle that had remained unsolved since 1982. When unlocked, it would lead to a treasure buried somewhere in North America.

And Krupat and his family had come to believe the clues led to Langone Park in the North End, a sprawling green space with three ball fields, bocce courts, a pool, and a playground. More specifically, they believed the treasure was buried underneath home plate on the softball field.


But as Krupat was jogging along the waterfront that July day, wondering how they might ever convince the city to let them dig up home plate, he saw something happening at Langone Park that sent a panic through his body. The entire park was circled by construction fencing, and crews were tearing the place up for a major renovation.

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“I got up the courage to walk onto the site and find the foreman, and I said, ‘You’re going to think this is crazy, but I think there’s buried treasure in this park,’ ” Krupat recalled. “And I was right — he thought I was crazy.”

Josh Gates, host of “Expedition Unknown” at the site with Jason Krupat.
Josh Gates, host of “Expedition Unknown” at the site with Jason Krupat. DAVID L. RYAN/GLOBE STAFF/GLOBE STAFF
Some explaining was in order. The treasure Krupat sought was the work of a New York publisher named Byron Preiss, who in 1982 released a book titled “The Secret” (no relation to the popular self-help book with the same title).

Preiss’s book contained 12 puzzles, each consisting of a cryptic verse that had to be paired with a cryptic painting. If solved correctly, each puzzle would lead to a park in a different North American city — Preiss never said which cities — to a spot where he had buried an ornate ceramic “casque” inside a plexiglass box. Inside each “casque” -- the word Preiss used to descibe the ceramic container he buried -- was a key that could be exchanged for a jewel valued at about $1,000.

The year after the book was published, three teenagers in Chicago followed Preiss’S clues to a box buried in Grant Park in Chicago.


JOHN TLUMACKI/GLOBE STAFF/GLOBE STAFF
It was another 21 years before the next box was discovered, by two buddies in the Greek Cultural Garden in Cleveland.

The following year, in 2005, Preiss, the only person who knew the exact whereabouts of the treasures, died in a car accident.

No other boxes were ever found. Interest in “The Secret” faded, and the book went out of print.

Then early last year, “Expedition Unknown,” a television show on the Discovery Channel, did a special on “The Secret” that set off a new frenzy of treasure hunters.

“I’ve been making travel adventure shows for 10 years, and I’ve never seen anything like the reaction to that show,” said Josh Gates, the show’s host, who is a Tufts grad and a native of Manchester-by-the-Sea. “So many people contacted me, and a lot of them were from the Boston area because it’s long been believed that one of them was hidden there.”

The Krupat children, 12-year-old Molly and 10-year-old Jack, saw the episode and called their parents into the room, knowing this would be right up their father’s alley. Jason Krupat makes his living as a puzzle and game designer. Soon, the family began making weekend trips into the city to work on what had come to be known as “the Boston verse.”


If Thucydides is/North of Xenophon/Take five steps/In the area of his direction/A green tower of lights/In the middle section/Near those/Who pass the coliseum/With metal walls/Face the water/Your back to the stairs/Feel at home/All the letters/Are here to see/Eighteenth day/Twelfth hour/Lit by lamplight/In truth be free.

Jack Krupat, 10, pointed to lines from “The Secret.”
Jack Krupat, 10, pointed to lines from “The Secret.” JOHN TLUMACKI/GLOBE STAFF/GLOBE STAFF
The names Thucydides and Xenophon are engraved on the facade of the main branch of the Boston Public Library in Copley Square, so it has long been assumed that the solution to this verse began there. Where it went after that has been the source of wild speculation over the years, with most theories focusing in the area around Fenway Park, believing it fit the “coliseum,” “green tower of lights” in “the middle section” of the city.

The Krupats chased that hypothesis, as well as others – there’s a very active Internet message board devoted to theories about “The Secret” – but ultimately began to believe that the clues pointed to the North End.

The “eighteenth day,” “twelfth hour,” “lit by lamplight” seemed to refer to Paul Revere’s famous “midnight ride” on April 18, 1775, which began when he rowed from his home in the North End to Charlestown to borrow a horse. Many historians believe he shoved off near what is now Langone Park.


The Krupats, with host Josh Gates, at the North End site.
The Krupats, with host Josh Gates, at the North End site. DAVID L. RYAN/GLOBE STAFF/GLOBE STAFF
There were also clues in the painting that accompanied the verse. The Krupats thought that the face of the woman in the image looks very similar to that of the Christopher Columbus statue in the North End.

But most convincing was that right across the street from Langone Park is Copp’s Hill Terrace, a small park that features large granite steps. If you “face the water” with “your back to the stairs,” the Krupats figured out, you were looking straight at “home” plate of the softball field.

It sounded plausible. But so have many other theories that have gone nowhere, so the Krupats were not about to dig up home plate.

The discovery of the construction project meant they might not have to. Or it meant that the casque was about to be destroyed and lost forever.

The night he spoke to the foreman, Jason Krupat wrote a long e-mail to Wes Construction Corp., the contractor, explaining “The Secret” and his home plate theory. He never got a reply, but word spread around the construction site about the guy claiming there was a buried treasure in the park, a ceramic box encased in plexiglass.

Months passed, and then one day in early October, a construction worker named Mitch Cunningham was operating an excavator in the area around home plate when he felt the metal bucket crack something. When he got out and inspected, he found shards of plexiglass, as well as a few pieces of ornate ceramic. He put the pieces aside, and they were taken to the company’s headquarters in Halifax.


The following day, the company dug out Krupat’s e-mail and contacted him.

Krupat says he immediately ran out of his office, hopped in an Uber, and rushed to Halifax. When he got a look at the ceramic – including one that featured a sundial identical to the two casques that had already been discovered – he called his wife, Colleen Brownell-Krupat, and told her the news.

They had solved it.

Last Thursday, the Krupats returned to the site to continue searching. They were trailed by Josh Gates and the crew from “Expedition Unknown” — which will release a special on the Boston find Wednesday on the Discovery Channel — and were assisted, once again, by Cunningham and his excavator.

As Cunningham dragged the excavator’s teeth through the soil, the Krupats followed closely, looking for anything out of the ordinary. Over the course of the day, they found more pieces of the ceramic casque, as well as the all-important key.

It was a jubilant day, until unexpected visitors arrived. A woman appeared outside the construction fence and started yelling to the crew, saying she lived nearby and was working on solving the riddle. She clearly recognized Gates from television, and pleaded for someone to tell her if they’d found the casque. The crew stayed mum. Things got quiet. No one seemed to know what to do.

Soon two men joined the woman outside the fence, each of them dressed in fluorescent construction jackets, and minutes later they tried to come onto the dig site before being turned away by a producer.

“When Byron Preiss buried these things, he often disguised himself as a construction worker, so they’re carrying on a tradition,” Gates said, flabbergasted at what was transpiring.

But the Krupats had already gathered enough of the casque to claim the reward, and so on Tuesday they went to New York, to a ceremony at the Brooklyn Historical Society, where Preiss’s widow, Sandi Mendelson, and their two daughters presented the Krupats with a green gemstone known as a peridot.

The ceremony served as a reunion of sorts for everyone involved in the long story of “The Secret.” The men who found the casques in Chicago and Cleveland were also in attendance, as was the artist who made the original paintings.

“It was emotional,” Krupat said. “It was a special event. I told my kids that this was like something out of a novel. We exchanged a buried treasure for a jewel.”

“I didn’t think we were ever going to find anything,” Colleen Brownell-Krupat said. “It was just about enjoying the process and spending time with the family. I’m still shocked we were able to solve it.”

The Krupats are also a bit sad that it’s all over.

But there are still nine casques out there, nine more puzzles to be solved, and they plan to start working on one of those soon.

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This is like Masquerade again. This is somewhat sad. In my opinion they they didn't find it and I can't congratulate them on grounds of intellectual honesty. This has a whole bunch of ramifications and drama.

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wa27 posted:

Can someone summarize why finding a cask is actually a bad thing?

I guess it's relative from whose perspective it is. People have been beaten down by soccer mom rage at the audacity of asking reasonable questions.

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Viruswithshoes posted:

I don’t live in the USA

A livestream happens.

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