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Mark Larson posted:For people who want to say their laptop has an i9. The i3, i5, i7 names are just marketing anyway, they may have denoted performance at some point but now a Pentium on the desktop can crush an i7 in a laptop. The name of the game is thermal dissipation, and laptops simply don't have as much headroom. To use a car analogy, it's like BMW coming out with a 335i moped. That's an ultra-thin though, a 'proper' laptop i5/i7 is still going to be faster at least in fairly short bursts.
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I'd go with the laptop. Make sure they order you a proper dock too, not some generic Thunderbolt one (had bad luck with those) or the cheap one with only a single Displayport
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Hadlock posted:multi monitor just works so much better when every screen is the same resolution. So long as you're using the same scaling on each display I don't see why resolution matters, especially where the screens are different physical sizes. Scaling is still important though as you still run into loads of apps that don't support per monitor scaling well (Visual Studio and Office 2016 still go blurry when you shift them off the primary display)
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Jun 19, 2018 10:10
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Truga posted:I'm so glad I still see well enough to not need scaling. All that wasted desktop realestate I don't see how anyone could be comfortable with a 13 or 14" 4k screen at 100%. It's pretty drat small regardless of how well you can see, the click targets in Windows would be tiny.
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Jun 19, 2018 20:03
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I have an Elite X2 1012 at work. Low end model so only 4GB and some Y series processor. It's fine I guess and certainly much better built and more durable than my Surface Pro (which is the most disappointing bit of hardware I've ever purchased) but I still don't get the form factor at all - most of the time it just seems flat out worse than a normal laptop.
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Jun 22, 2018 04:10
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etalian posted:The build quality is great, it's just the concept ended up making it a pretty expensive machine with some annoyances such as sky high pricing and also the gap due to the unique hinge design. Fit and finish is good but I'm of the opinion that actual build quality doesn't become apparent until the system is a few years old.
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Jul 4, 2018 22:47
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krysmopompas posted:How are the keyboards & trackpads on mobile workstation-class units in the big boy sizes? Specifically the dell 7730/hp zbook g5/lenovo p71, which look like the exact same terrible trackpads as there were back when a Bush was president. I'm curious as to what you expect to tell about the quality of a trackpad by looking at it. Anyway I don't have a ZBook but the trackpad on my EliteBook 830 G5 is just fine - it's a click pad but isn't floppy like the older Lenovo ones, it still has separate trackpoint buttons (unfortunately the trackpoint itself isn't Lenovo quality), uses precision drivers and is made from proper glass. No real complaints from me.
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Jul 20, 2018 05:36
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krysmopompas posted:They just look like throwbacks to an era where trackpads were really awful, with really tiny touch surfaces and actual buttons. Some configs look like they stuck a fingerprint reader in the corner of the pad, which sounds incredibly annoying too. Actual buttons are a good thing though - these systems are huge anyway so there is a good amount of palmrest space left for the trackpad surface even with proper buttons This is the ZBook 15: 
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Jul 21, 2018 02:00
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an skeleton posted:
That's certainly been my experience with Surface models - they're beautiful but very fragile and Microsoft has never figured out a way to make a battery last properly.
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Jul 21, 2018 02:24
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krysmopompas posted:I have no idea how i missed the fact that even the zbooks have a stick too...ugh. Of course they do, why on earth would they get rid of that selling point? I know we wouldn't consider deploying anything that didn't have both pointing options (well at least not in the traditional laptop for factor) Really it sounds like the best you're going to do is the Precision version of the XPS15 - it's in a more consumer orientated chassis which you will probably like if you like Apple gear. Probably going to run into similar throttling issues there though. I'm not sure I really get your first complaint either - the current Apple gear is just as 'workstation class' as anything from previous generations.
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Jul 21, 2018 03:36
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krysmopompas posted:Did history forget the 17” pro already? You mean the one that had exactly the same guts as a 15" model of the same period? If that was 'workstation class' then the new ones are too.
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Jul 21, 2018 05:38
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Unsinkabear posted:So it turns out I'm a loving idiot who solves problems one step at a time instead of looking at the big picture. My work is paying for 75% of this laptop, and I'm paying for 25%. My former desktop PC (i5/1070) died of a motherboard failure and I was planning to sell the leftover parts to pay for my 25% of the new laptop. I decided I should get something with a low/mid power discrete GPU for now, and then build an eGPU in the future when it gets long in the tooth and I hopefully have more cash to burn. If you're keeping the graphics card anyway I'll bet it's be cheaper to grab a new motherboard for the desktop than getting an eGPU enclosure. It's not like the other components of a desktop PC have any real second hand value.
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Jul 28, 2018 06:07
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Rime posted:Matlab with large datasets? You're going to want at least 16 gigs and an i7 at minimum. That poo poo eats power. You need to be a lot more precise than that. A current gen ULV i5 is going to do significantly better than a previous gen ULV i7 because Intel finally went to four cores. Also the difference between a current gen ULV i5 and i7 is small enough as to be insignificant. etalian posted:Also due to the thin bezel craze they are only slightly heavier and slightly larger footprint than a 13" laptop. Not really because 13" models have also downsized.
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Aug 13, 2018 07:41
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Lenovo batteries don't seem to hold up as long as other manufacturers do. I'm still using a cast-off HP 2570p (which is an X230 equivalent) and it'll still do 5 hours on the battery. Not too bad for a 12" Ivybridge machine that has been in use for six years. My personal T430s on the other hand needed two new batteries under warranty and the third one gave less than two hours by the time I got rid of it in 2016.
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Feb 5, 2019 21:42
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Mzuri posted:Hello laptop savants! If you want to stick with HP I have no real complaints with my work 830 G5. A little bulky compared to the competition but coming from and old Elitebook you won’t notice it.
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Feb 9, 2019 19:51
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Shaocaholica posted:Yeah 1440p is crucial here since I'll be remoting into a machine with that res and it's a pain to switch res for the remote session for various reasons. Not sure how that would work with a 2160p screen but scaling might make it horrible and 1:1 will be way too tiny. You'd be better off getting a 4k screen for the remote system, opens up your laptop options immensely.
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Shaocaholica posted:Even if I could swing it (it’s a work machine and work doesn’t like snowflake configs) I would be on a larger desktop 2160p display and I doubt that would work well keeping the same res and UI scaling while going down to a 17” for the laptop. It won't make any difference - 3840x2160@150% is exactly the same as 2560x1440@100% so far as desktop size goes.
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