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blinkyzero posted:Culture shock can be serious business to some folks, and it definitely got to me after the initial honeymoon period of three months or so. This is a pretty common reaction to living in a very different culture, of course, and well-documented in sociological research -- and, even better, previous China megathreads. How long before new-thread-shock wears off and we can stop being helpful and start being cynical. I wrote a thing for another place about culture shock and teaching in China. People often associate "culture shock" with silly things like day-to-day problems, strange food and people smelling different, but if you are coming to China to work then it is in your "professional" persona that culture shock is going to kick you. Here's A Thing posted:
In case you weren't already aware of this, moving from one environment to another can be fairly stressful. If you fancy a good read about this try Phiona Stanley's article Performing Foreigners, a conference paper version of which can be found here: http://www.deakin.edu.au/arts-ed/ccg/events/pdf/mpn%20028.pdf She overcooks the issue a little in my opinion but the general direction is certainly accurate. Further information about educational practices in China can be found here: http://www.sdaw.info/lecturers/practices_china.htm As a bunch of people might drift into this thread because they are thinking about teaching in China I will maybe keep this post and add information to it as time goes on. GuestBob fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jun 20, 2013 |
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I think that Jinjiang Inn is the nicest you have posted there - better than the average Hanting, Home Inn, 7 Days and so forth. Mostly this is because they are newer.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2013 06:35 |
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Dilber posted:...football... Unless pie and Bovril were involved then you can stop using this word.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2013 14:06 |
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MeramJert posted:Is this only applicable in Beijing? Beijing, Shanghai and, alledgedly, parts of Guangdong. Hainan is asking you to submit a bit of paper which says you are a good boy but this can be hand written inside the police station if you like. In Beijing I thought that the regulations were for all "new" applications (where "new" relates to those coming into the country form abroad and going to Beijing from other provinces) so your lawyer dude might be over-reacting. Given that this is not a national policy and has not been loudly trumpeted I think you will not need a full FBI check. There's some confusion about whether applicants from within China need previous home-country records or just records from within China. Folks in Henan ain't been told squat about the new policies on July 1st officially though. So most of this is based on anecdotal accounts from people I sort of know over the internet. They haven't been wrong yet though.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 04:13 |
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Magna Kaser posted:I'm getting an extension of my RP on July 1 and haven't heard anything about this, I was just told to hand over my passport. You are also in Chengdu, so, Chengdu is not Beijing, Shanghai, parts of Guangdong or Hainan. I dropped my RP renewal/transfer application into the PSB today - well, the FAO clerk forgot to bring my Accommodation Registration so she is ferrying that down to them this afternoon (I tore a strip off her for not updating it to reflect my new passport number too) - and they didn't ask for anything untoward. Except now they keep a digital copy of a high quality photo (not the webcam on the desk), which is new I suppose. Pro-PRC Laowai posted:Yes, I too thought it was only for new applications. You thought I was talking out of my arsehole the first time I mentioned this, as I recall. I am not from Zumadian you know, I just live near there.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 06:38 |
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Travel question! Anyone (Chird maybe) been to or heard about a place called Liupanshui in Guizhou? There's a special railway in the mountains around there and the lass and I want to go and ride it (toot toot!) but we are concerned that we might get trapped in a bumhole town.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 06:39 |
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Trammel posted:With the health exam, does that have to be done in country of origin? The advice I've got says it can be done in China, after the Z-visa has been issued. Country of origin, repeated in China. Some people get away with the first but 90%+ have to do it. The second medical is required as part of the process to get your Z Visa converted into a Residence Permit (the former allows you to enter China to work, the latter allows you to stay in China to work). Also, ding! http://houston.china-consulate.org/eng/vp/gzrz/
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 06:51 |
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MeramJert posted:FWIW I never had to do a health exam in my home country. I just did it in China. Policies vary wildly and are subject to: 1: The requirements of your home county's Chinese embassies and consulates. 2: The requirements of your provincial SAFEA office (or other body responsible for issuing you a Work Permit). and... 3: Whether your employer is aware of the information in points 1 & 2.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 07:12 |
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In the UK the GP will just scribble in all of the boxes and then you take it to the girl in the front counter who rummages in her drawers for a stamp of some kind: "Sarah, Sarah! Do we 'av a stamp? This gentleman wants a stamp. Naw, not a postage stamp you silly mare, a stamp for his form. Naw, his medical form. He says it's for the Chinese. Naw, the Chinese. Not the one on the corner, the country! The country! Well I don't bloody know, do I! It's in the what? Ooooh, right. What's it doing in there then? He's asking if we've got any red ink, 'av we got any red ink?" Throuhgout this scene, of course, a Welsh male voice choir gently serenades a portrait of Florence Nightingale whilst a homeless Kier Hardy, weeping softly over a bag containing the bones of the socialist welfare state, waits by a stack of Home and Graden magazines. Ah GuestBob fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Jun 26, 2013 |
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MeramJert posted:...but my bosses kept insisting... It can be like chalk and cheese with people though - we have sent two members of staff to a partner in Malaysia and one of them came back with a hundred ideas and the other "didn't like the food". I have only ever met one "boss" level dude who had his head screwed on about working across cultures and he was great (I have his number in my phone still, in case I ever have a super serious emergency). Finding a decent boss in China is as hard as finding decent foreign workers.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 14:22 |
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I double dare you to go down your local market and get one of the little dudes to carve you a visa stamp for "The Republic of Fredonia" and get that poo poo all up in there. Make it happen.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2013 06:55 |
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Magna Kaser posted:How long does it normally take... Depends on who you are handing the documents over to. If the FAO is going sit on them for [x] days then I can't tell you how long it will take, but if they take them straight to the PSB then it will take 4-5 working days. Mine went in on the 27th and will be ready for collection on the 2nd (I'll go down there on the 3rd though).
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2013 06:17 |
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Magna Kaser posted:They told me I need to get them this poo poo by Monday at noon so they can get this done for everyone, so I'm gonna assume they're bringing it down immediately after nap time. They will get a receipt which will tell them exactly when the documents will be available to collect from the PSB, so they will know this on Monday.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2013 08:31 |
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Mostly white noise from China Daily this morning about the new laws (that paper is the official press organ of SAFEA). This is about the only interesting thing that they have put out: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2013-07/01/content_16693996.htm And even this is only interesting because it goes into detail in some areas (like the fake certificate thing - agents are going to be plum out of luck from now on it seems). For a bonus note, it seems like SAFEA is activley updating the banned laowai list (which had the same names on it forever last I checked): http://www.safea.gov.cn/content.shtml?id=12746208 GuestBob fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jul 1, 2013 |
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Magna Kaser posted:Man, Visa agents may be going by the wayside. Between that and actually having liability now, what will happen!? My salary will go up.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2013 06:27 |
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VideoTapir posted:That's the whole list? It doesn't sound like they did much of anything. I was expecting a sex offender registry. There are other lists, Google "Harlequin Takahashi". Nothing dramatic though. This list is for the pissy little stuff - anything criminal would be on, you know, a proper database of some kind.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2013 12:01 |
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M is to replace F? Can we have confirmation of that please, anyone. TIA. Just FYI, Henan is still doing whatever the gently caress it pleases. I just got my RP renewed (which involved nothing more than previous years, beyond an extra photograph) and I picked it up today. Now, there is more. I have renewed my passport in-China. The RP is good, nothing wrong there. But the FEC (which had been renewed but which I hadn't seen until today) has simply been extended, with no note made regarding the alteration of the passport number (due to renewal of the passport). In other words, instead of issuing me with a new RP, SAFEA has renewed an existing one under an invalid passport number, for a period beyond the duration of the existing passport. Apparently this didn't bother my local E/E PSB who just carried on as usual. Now, I am not suggesting that they are wrong in being less than punctilious about the details of some paperwork, but I must admit that I have come to expect a certain degree of obstruction from Chinese bureaucracy and I feel like I am a few jiao short here. I am trying to resist a very British urge to stand in a queue about this, or send a strongly worded email to someone who doesn't give a rats rear end and then become indignant about customer service. I am actually going to let someone, who knows someone in SAFEA, know about this and suggest that it might get them in a [totally fictitious] amount of trouble if they don't conveniently fix it when we send in some other documents in a couple of months. Because when I go and work in another province, where god is actually watching, ... [edit] If I actually manage to win at teaching the Chinese authorities their own Entry/Exit laws then I will commission Blinkyzero to write an epic saga in my honour. GuestBob fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Jul 2, 2013 |
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Oh poo poo! Oh poo poo! A thing has changed! Oh poo poo! Oh poo poo! China fails. Come back tomorrow, it'll be okay then. Honestly, sometimes. This country. [edit] To further illustrate this point: http://www.echinacities.com/news/Visa-Free-Entry-Law-to-Take-Affect-at-Baiyun-Airport-on-Jul-1 Visa Free Entry in China (for diplomats and people who have Residence Permits {which require a visa in the first place}). GuestBob fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jul 2, 2013 |
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Jeoh posted:It is July 19th. It is the future. I am pretty sure that this is Chinese for "gently caress you white boy!" You have like -1 Face right now. You should get them a pizza or something. GuestBob fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Jul 2, 2013 |
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SB35 posted:Haha, they probably just added that extra week on there because it's supposed to take 15 days. It'll probably be ready and waiting for you there in a few days, but you have to wait! And you lived in which province? Seriously, the biggest point about he new laws is how provincial their implementation is. Small town Henan is still doing everything on a three working day basis with a doffed cap and tugged forelock for the nice foreign chap who works at the local university. In elsewhere, your experience may vary. [edit] Or maybe it's just me and I am honestly that nice that people just open doors for me because I work state sector and wear a shirt and tie. BOLLOCKS! GuestBob fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Jul 2, 2013 |
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Just a heads up, the "Chinese Visa Application Servce Center" which handles visa applications might not be able to handle the verification of documents. You might need to get a Consulate to do that.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2013 07:18 |
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Magna Kaser posted:In Chengdu visas are the same as they ever were. After heading down there and I thought I'd just gloss this right here.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2013 12:19 |
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Kikuchiyo posted:Looking to go somewhere a bit more off the beaten trail this time. Yeah, Guizhou is pretty warm in Winter (compared to other places). Yangshuo is awful though I would second the idea that you need to get out of there pretty swiftly if you decide to go to that area. Xinxuananannabannaghghle in Southern Yunnan is pretty cool, there's a French dude there who makes his own sausages from wild pigs and you can get tasty Thai food too.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 02:08 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xishuangbanna It's a nice place, but there are no elephants in Wild Elephant Valley, just Chinese tourists.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 02:49 |
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Big Alf posted:Do they roam free or are they kept in cages? They move in small herds, led by an alpha female with a megaphone who shouts about how much concrete was used to build the visitor center.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 03:25 |
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goldboilermark posted:GuestBob for president 2016. You know I don't consider these posts to be in any way sarcastic, right?
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 04:23 |
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The Worst Muslim posted:I can barely breathe in this thread. Sorry bro', when I fell out the faggottree I hit every branch on the way down. I don't even notice it anymore. On an unrelated note, a little ayi told me that the criminal record checks for new hires are going to be rolled out in one form or another nationwide sooner rather than later. Even in the 'Nan.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2013 13:14 |
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Every day China isn't like that picture is just another day being kicked in the nuts.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2013 03:48 |
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DontAskKant posted:I refuse to pay $200+ for a single entry visa. Inner Mongolia is still China right? Probably.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2013 10:43 |
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DontAskKant posted:There appear to be no threads talking about Mongolia at all. When you guys go for your visa run is it just across the border or to Ulaanbataar? That's because Mongolia is the unspoiled backpacker frontier of Northern Asia and we want to keep it all for ourselves so it doesn't get over-run like Laos.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2013 02:39 |
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DontAskKant posted:Oh, how do I get in the cool kids club? Do I go and do everything the hard way and then come back a second time? I just have no idea why you'd Mongolia over Vietnam. I mean, I could play Devil's advocate and find some pretty plausible excuses, but endless steppe, flies and drunken poverty don't exactly sound like a holiday to me and I am pretty sure the Mongolia has all of those. Serious question, do you like horses?
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2013 03:00 |
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Ghengis Khan was the original brony.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2013 03:28 |
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DontAskKant posted:...horse adjacent. This is legal in Mongolia by the way.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2013 06:30 |
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The Worst Muslim posted:People died RIP Treyvon.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2013 13:17 |
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[edit] Nope, I posted a dumb thing here. GuestBob fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Jul 20, 2013 |
# ¿ Jul 20, 2013 13:44 |
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T3 is full of laowai anyway.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2013 14:15 |
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Singapore and Hongkong have Cyberpunk, Henan has Cybergrunge. Like Mad Max meets Barbarella meets Angela's Ashes, Henan is some kind of terrible impoverished B list version of hyper modernity. "An old lady is taking a poo poo in the street. And You're not helping Leon. Why aren't you helping?" "And there at the breakfast table was this laowai munching away at jiaziwao and lomticks of huimian, and lovely chuariwegs." GuestBob fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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I just get it shaved (with the longest guard thingy though) three or four times a year.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2013 06:00 |
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Donraj posted:So, I appear to have lost my TEFL in China certificate when I was moving from Shenzhen. I still have scans of it, including the certificate number, but CTLC tells me there's no chance of getting the hard copy replaced. I'm going back to the US to get my master's now, but if I ever come back to ESL work is that likely to cause me any problems? The fact that there is no facility for reprinting even with a reference number is an indication of something which you may find depressing. It really doesn't matter if you are headed home for a Masters though, good job with that. For the reference of others, if ain't Patrick Swayze (a CELTA/DELTA or PgCert/PgDip from a real university) then it's nowt, at least in the part of the world in where god is watching. GuestBob fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Aug 9, 2013 |
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Donraj posted:Still, I got my TEFL certificate at Peking University, I assumed that at least made it legit. Try contacting Peking University with the reference number then, unless "at" =/= "from", in which case...?
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