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DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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I live with my parents (I'm 20), earn ~£16000 per annum. I'm able to put away roughly £500 per month, and have maxed out my Cash ISA (Tax free savings account up to ~£5000), as well as some other savings here and there.

A co-worker lives with his parents, is 25, and earns around £19000. He pays £300 in rent, so before tax that's £1283. Phone contract and Sky subscription aside, he has nothing left by the end of the month. Spends it all on drinking, even gets a few payday loans.

I just don't understand how he has nothing left at the end of the month.

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DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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Last year I signed myself up for online classes to complete some A-levels, for £250. I then signed up for another class for another £250. It's a year on, and I haven't done any work towards it because my career has gone in a different direction. Still kicking myself over it; not having done any work after the first £250 was spent should have raised a red flag for me. Oh well.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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lostleaf posted:

I actually do know the details of the signing bonus because I took it too. I had to repay PLUS interest when I left. She would definitely had to pay it back unless she stays a few more years. I guess I just had a very conservative upbringing regarding finance. We believe that a penny saved is one and a half penny earned. My wife and I still bring our bottles to the recycling center. Not having six month savings is profane to us. To not have 30k when you make so much is hard to reconcile.

You still take your bottles to the centre but are ok with paying back 30k with interest because you couldn't wait another year or so?

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My brother is going to university this September and just bought a £3000 guitar. He said "Relax, I've got my loans for everything I'll need at uni"

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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A friend of mine finally managed to pay off his credit card debts. He has just broken up with his GF and is moving across London, and is on ~£18k a year. His gaming PC dies, so instead of diagnosing what was wrong with the PC, he buys a new one outright, straight on the credit card. What's worse is that he doesn't have the money for a copy of Windows yet so is waiting until next month to buy that. So the PC's just going to be sitting there.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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He's just a bit of a silly person.

Just saw this on Reddit:

quote:

Sorry, but this is the worst advice anyone could give to a 21 year old. Let me spell it out for you. DO NOT SAVE AND INVEST.
The only thing you need to invest in is yourself. All those nights out, good meals, holidays you won't have just because you are saving, you'll never get them back. If everything goes well, those 1000 pounds (or dollars) you managed to save through hard work and sacrifice will be a fraction of your monthly salary when you are 30. Or in the worst scenarios they will be your solicitor fee when you are buying your house, or even a rounding error. All those sacrifices for a rounding error.
Instead study, be good at something. Find pleasure in knowing things, in being the best. Never decline a challenge. Learn how to approach interviews. Be unique and essential. That will make a difference, not the money you save.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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A response from the guy:

quote:

If you think your opinion is more worthy than mine because you know what compound interest is, you may want to consider I do quantitative analysis for a big investment bank.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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the littlest prince posted:

This is your friend posting these things, or somebody else? Surely a quantitative analyst doesn't make only £18k per year?

This is someone else, I should have clarified.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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Hell, even a couple of months ago would have been a good idea.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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The premise of Dragon's Den, Shark Tank etc is "People with bad business plans squirming under pressure" with a side order of underdogs with good plans succeeding. He's a perfect addition for the show in my opinion, the epitome of entrepreneur schadenfreude.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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Yeah same here. I literally just sat down and worked out my expenses for this month *so far*.

Long story short, :catstare:

Edit: gently caress it don't want to tease. I started the month with ~£1400 in my debit account (Not savings!) I'm now down to ~400.

DrAlexanderTobacco fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Apr 15, 2014

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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Golf carts are only slow because they have a limiter in place to stop old people driving into lakes accidentally. I used to be a range marshal at a golf course and got to use one which had no such limiter in place - I think the top speed was 35mph? Fun stuff.

DrAlexanderTobacco fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Apr 24, 2014

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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Guinness posted:

It means you're automatically subscribed to it when you create an account on reddit. Also I think it means you see it on the front page when you're not logged in.

Previously you had to seek it out and manually subscribe.

Basically it means it now has way more visibility to the masses, and as a result will probably get a lot of terrible posts.

"You mean spending $4000 a month on Reddit Gold and losing my house was a bad thing?!

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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Slow Motion posted:

What a bitch to make a play to control the guy's finances. That's classic abuser behavior. He was 100% right that per-marriage it was nobody's business but his. And instantly getting kicked out? That's straight up illegal to do to some one paying rent.

Tell me about your mother, Slow Motion

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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Bitcoins:

http://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/26ujtk/daily_discussion_friday_may_30_2014/chvajq9

quote:

Greed is a powerful thing. Do what you can to keep it in check, always.

I had 50 coins at a cost basis of $640. Not terrible. Got greedy, started trading. Made 70 coins (cost basis: $450), then lost them trying to get to 100. Couldn't handle being in the red again so I did a 70/30 roll on Just-Dice to get back to 70. Lost everything. Took a loan out for $25k and just bought 41 coins. Now my cost basis is almost $1,400. I'm debating on whether to HODL and hope value rises that high, or try a 40/60 roll to get my 50 back. It's a lovely situation, one that I wouldn't be in if I didn't get so drat greedy.

:catstare:

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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pig slut lisa posted:

I'm not sure I understand...is this person wagering bitcoins on some kind of electronic gambling thing? Like one click and "boop, you just lost thousands of dollars"?

Yep - He used a gambling service, literally a double-or-quits flash game thing. Stupid as hell.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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Pretty sure it's "fibre", guys. :britain:

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DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

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canyoneer posted:

People are idiots though.
One of my finance professors had a high net worth client who only wanted to buy stock in companies with a lion in the logo.

Boy have I got the company for him!

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