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darkgray posted:Finished reading Owarimonogatari vol 3 last night. While I'm surprised and delighted that Nishio manages to tie up basically all known (and unknown) threads and explain practically every remaining mystery in this one final (?) novel, it just makes me all the more puzzled as to what Zoku-Owarimonogatari will be about. i hope it will be an epilogue. i want to know what hitagi and araragi are doing in college ----------------
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Dick Spacious CPA posted:i hope it will be an epilogue. i want to know what hitagi and araragi are doing in college obvious joke: eachother
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Sep 1, 2014 16:35
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darkgray posted:Finished reading Owarimonogatari vol 3 last night. While I'm surprised and delighted that Nishio manages to tie up basically all known (and unknown) threads and explain practically every remaining mystery in this one final (?) novel, it just makes me all the more puzzled as to what Zoku-Owarimonogatari will be about. I think the final thing that Nisio has to wrap up is (vague post-second season spoilers) Araragi's story himself, as well as Sodachi's (her story in Owari 1 ended on a slightly bad note). While the stories for every girl has been more or less wrapped up, Araragi himself hasn't had his story "resolved." I'm really looking forward to it.
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Sep 1, 2014 18:55
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i300 posted:I think the final thing that Nisio has to wrap up is (vague post-second season spoilers) Araragi's story himself, as well as Sodachi's (her story in Owari 1 ended on a slightly bad note). While the stories for every girl has been more or less wrapped up, Araragi himself hasn't had his story "resolved." I'm really looking forward to it. Not sure what you mean. Those things seemed pretty resolved after Owari 3 to me.
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darkgray posted:Not sure what you mean. Those things seemed pretty resolved after Owari 3 to me. I'm mainly speculating from the name, Koyomi Book (which I'm not sure is even official anymore), and that Sodachi is on the cover. Who knows? It comes out in a couple weeks iirc, so we'll know then.
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i300 posted:I'm mainly speculating from the name, Koyomi Book (which I'm not sure is even official anymore), and that Sodachi is on the cover. Who knows? It comes out in a couple weeks iirc, so we'll know then. Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with pre-info, since I'm deathly afraid of spoilers, but what makes you think it's her on the cover?
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from what i have read it sounded like Sodachi's story was pretty much covered in Owari. Owarimonogatari spoilers - after Owari really the only thing that seems like is left is to resolve Koyomi's problem. Gaen's plan would have fixed his problem and the town's problem at the end of the Ougi arc, but Koyomi wanted things to go back to how they were before.
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darkgray posted:Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with pre-info, since I'm deathly afraid of spoilers, but what makes you think it's her on the cover? When the cover was announced it was also said that it's Sodachi on the cover. She's the only one with teal hair other than Ononoki, and her cutting her hair (it was long in Owari) would go perfectly in line with what happened to every single one of the other girls.
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i300 posted:When the cover was announced it was also said that it's Sodachi on the cover. She's the only one with teal hair other than Ononoki, and her cutting her hair (it was long in Owari) would go perfectly in line with what happened to every single one of the other girls. I'd only seen the really tiny and terrible preview on Amazon, but this larger version of the cover  certainly makes it seem you're right. The girl in the reflection (?) behind looks just like Oikura from Owari 1's illustration. Tagline helps out a bit. In Owari v3 at the end, Hanekawa accidentally lets slip that Oikura took the same university entrance exam as Koyomi, making it possible that Zoku actually takes place in a university setting. Maybe. Hopefully?
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I finally finished the rest of Monogatari season 2 earlier and Did Kaiki really go through all that just to end up beaten to death by another kid possessed by what i assume was the same snake that turned into Nadeko's scrunchy?. I'll get around to Suruga Devil at some point but i wish Crunchyroll separated them into episodes and not just a 2 hour chunk.
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Smornstein posted:I finally finished the rest of Monogatari season 2 earlier and Did Kaiki really go through all that just to end up beaten to death by another kid possessed by what i assume was the same snake that turned into Nadeko's scrunchy?. I'll get around to Suruga Devil at some point but i wish Crunchyroll separated them into episodes and not just a 2 hour chunk. It was a different snake, the one from Nadeko's arc the first season (it got away at the end). "Curse, like chickens, come back to roost." Point is that he totally deserved that, technically. Also, "the snake that turned into a scrunchy" never actually existed: there was no god until Nadeko swallowed the talisman.
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Smornstein posted:Did Kaiki really go through all that just to end up beaten to death by another kid possessed by what i assume was the same snake that turned into Nadeko's scrunchy?. Or is it that Kaiki is full of poo poo, and embellishing the story to make himself look more sympathetic? He is a con man, after all 
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Redcrimson posted:Or is it that Kaiki is full of poo poo, and embellishing the story to make himself look more sympathetic? He is a con man, after all no he got beat up ----------------
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Sep 2, 2014 16:31
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Yet he's still alive in Hanamonogatari
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KaneTW posted:Yet he's still alive in Hanamonogatari you can get beat up and not die. just ask zorak about his time in high school. but for real though they left out a part in from the Hanamonogatari novel that explains this. someone tell me if this is completely wrong because this is second hand knowledge - in the novel he says that all his teeth got knocked out and he complains about how expensive dentures were. so now he has fake teeth he is even more of a fake man. ---------------- Dick Spacious CPA fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Sep 2, 2014 17:44
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Whatever happens to be the better lie is what is true Kaiki is the best 
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Finally got round to watching Hanamonogatari, it was fantastic. The only downside was no Shinobu 
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People have started getting copies of Zoku-Owarimonogatari, and apparently this page is found at the end: So, apparently there'll be a "next season" after this "final season" and the first (?) book is called Tsugimonogatari. Aah well.
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darkgray posted:People have started getting copies of Zoku-Owarimonogatari, and apparently this page is found at the end: that's kind of disappointing since he has been talking about the end of the story forever. i hope it at least follows a different cast of characters or something because it sounds like Owari really tied up everything nicely ----------------
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darkgray posted:People have started getting copies of Zoku-Owarimonogatari, and apparently this page is found at the end: Oh Nisio  Well, I have faith. He is starting a new novel series as well, so hopefully this last season is something radically different. I really feel like Zokuowari will end Araragi's story.
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Is it possible I'm getting the Kaiki and the Ghostbusters college days prequel spin-off I've always dreamed of?!
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darkgray posted:This is somewhat old, but I hadn't seen it until today, and I've already stared through it in awed silence twice, so I may as well infect you as well. As for the Tsugimonogatari, the ride will never truly end. This is a full-blown sequel in the works! Same universe, same Kaii, same wordplay. New cast and plot. And this is why I believe so: quote:I suspect that he is doing this because the author already has a fetish for worlds were metaphors become real. And that now that he built an entire universe that suits his writing style and prefernce for puns, he would rather not abandon it to start again from scratch. Grouchio fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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darkgray posted:I literally have no space for any more of his goddamn novels. I already have 38 on my shelf. ;_;
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Grouchio posted:Wait a minute! Have you obtained Zokuowari (the No, it was sent ~10 days ago. Also ordered the Toradora author's new novel earlier, which has supposedly been in transit for 4½ weeks now. Starting to worry it'll never get here. Stupid cheap shipping alternatives. Edit: Of course the old package arrives literally the minute after I post this. darkgray fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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darkgray posted:No, it was sent ~10 days ago. Also ordered the Toradora author's new novel earlier, which has supposedly been in transit for 4½ weeks now. Starting to worry it'll never get here. Stupid cheap shipping alternatives. Followed by a sequel teaser.
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Grouchio posted:Lemme know when you've finished reading - I've heard reports that it involves a mirror world and an unclear ending. (That is NOT the actual end.) Well, it's here.  Trouble is I've still got 300 pages of Takemiya's novel to finish before I can start on this one, so it'll take weeks before I know anything worthwhile.
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All right, I started reading Zoku-Owarimonogatari today, and after 30 pages, I'm pretty sure this is the biggest troll Nishio has ever pulled on his readers. Koyomi "sinks" through the bathroom mirror and ends up in a mirror world, where every character he's met (so far) shows how mirrored they are by speaking entirely using mirror-flipped text. If this poo poo doesn't stop soon, I'm going to have have an aneurysm. Urgh. Edit: Example page: 
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darkgray posted:All right, I started reading Zoku-Owarimonogatari today, and after 30 pages, I'm pretty sure this is the biggest troll Nishio has ever pulled on his readers. Koyomi "sinks" through the bathroom mirror and ends up in a mirror world, where every character he's met (so far) shows how mirrored they are by speaking entirely using mirror-flipped text. If this poo poo doesn't stop soon, I'm going to have have an aneurysm. Urgh. He did this (or something similar; can't remember) with Katanagatari too. So it's less a troll and more of a gimmick he probably decided to amp up.
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Wark Say posted:He did this (or something similar; can't remember) with Katanagatari too. So it's less a troll and more of a gimmick he probably decided to amp up. Was it that ninja that always talked backwards?
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I still don't understand why Gahara of all people had a little meltdown in the first episode of Second Season... EDIT: Nevermind, looked it up and found out. Ugh. Still freaked the hell out of ME that the best Kuudere ever had broken down. Also the season neglected to have an Araragi-Hitagi interaction so we deserving fans could not see how she's changed (besides more antics). Whoop-dee loving-doooo. Grouchio fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Grouchio posted:I still don't understand why Gahara of all people had a little meltdown in the first episode of Second Season... remember Hitagi confronted her demons at the end of Nise and is more human now. they left out the monologue about her changes out of the anime and it makes things kind of confusing. basically she is worried about Tsubasa because of a lot of reasons: Tsubasa turned off her phone so she couldnt call her, she was worried about something happening to Tsubasa and in turn that would really upset Koyomi, she met Tsubasa's parents who literally don't care about her well-being at all (she even tells Tsubasa she shouldnt call those people Mother or Father), Tsubasa lied and said she was sleeping at a friend's home but she never asked Hitagi to stay over with her making her think she wasnt her friend, and then when Hitagi found her sleeping in the old abandoned building like a homelessman she got upset because she didn't have to do that. in conclusion ur dumb try watching the episode again ----------------
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also i read a bunch of spoilers for the last book. is it safe to say that the overarching plot ended in Owarimonogatari? this last book just seems like some weird filler.
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Oh wait a minute that breakdown WAS A RUSE! After all these months my faith has been restored!  Einander posted:I dunno. That incident at the start struck me as the first time she was that worried about anyone, because part of the point of Hanekawa's abnormality (as a person, not as an oddity, though I guess the two are basically the same) was that she 1) could do just about anything if she wanted to and 2) she didn't think like normal people do... Also yeah, it's safe to say that the main plot resolved itself with Owari. Now it's onward to Tsugi and beyond!
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Grouchio posted:Oh wait a minute that breakdown WAS A RUSE! After all these months my faith has been restored! i dont think it was a ruse. try reading Koyomi's monolgoue from Nise where he talks about Hitagi's change. quote:And of course, it's not thanks to Araragi Koyomi either, nor is it Hanekawa Tsubasa — Senjougahara Hitagi had obtained victory from that detestable conman with her own strength and willpower. And she has thus proudly changed herself totally. here is a link to the whole thing http://cetranslation.blogspot.com/2012/03/nisemonogatari-snippet-of-chapter-005.html ----------------
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Did you just have that speech saved on your hard drive and ready to go, Dick?
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icantfindaname posted:Did you just have that speech saved on your hard drive and ready to go, Dick? yes im always prepared to talk about monogatari ----------------
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Dick Spacious CPA posted:yes im always prepared to talk about monogatari Edit: Aw screw it. It's not worth it being trolled by you. Grouchio fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Grouchio posted:Just to be yet again an ironic anime pervert? ummmm no. i literally answered your question right on this page and gave you a link to help you form your own thoughts on the matter of Hitagi's character development that lead to her "out of character" freakout during the first episode of monogatari second season ----------------
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Dick Spacious CPA posted:ummmm no. i literally answered your question right on this page and gave you a link to help you form your own thoughts on the matter of Hitagi's character development that lead to her "out of character" freakout during the first episode of monogatari second season
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