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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Potsticker posted:

Where does he even get off calling her slutty? She doesn't dress povacatively or flirt with guys constantly. Not that either of those are particularly negative things, I'm just trying to get a frame of reference outside of "shes a girl" which automatically makes her a slut.

As far as I recall, being "boy-crazy" was a constant running theme, something typical of 14 year old girls. I guess from the perspective of a middle aged internet male that makes her a cock-teasing whore.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

TK-31 posted:

I remember the latin american dub tried to pass off Zoisite as a girl... Except for one or two times when he says something about being a guy. :v:

I'm also watching the essentials right now, and I chose to not skip over the doom tree arc (it was pretty nice, all things considered) but mostly I just dread the inevitable arrival of Chibi Usa.

I think all the 90s dubs tried to pass Zoisite off as a girl.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

MagicalDuck posted:

Honestly, I think he hates magical girl anime in general. He gassed the Nanoha thread, which had zero creepy stuff in it. I'd understand closing it if the posters were being gross, but it was mostly 'befriending' jokes and commentary on beam-spam.

It was poster after poster talking about how Nanoha subverted the magical girl genre and was some seminal work in that genre, with Madoka constantly being mentioned as well. It was trite and meaningless bullshit and Zorak summed it up best.

Zorak posted:

This is dumb as hell and once again a sign that folks sure like talking about poo poo they have no idea about.

Madoka is far from being genre defining in the sense of "breaking magical girl molds". Nanoha is certainly not either. What they are entirely is "Magical Girl shows aimed at adult men". That's it. Nanoha is a spin-off of a porn game that aired after midnight. Madoka aired even later. Both were targeted at an adult male audience. How does this even relate to a genre that is otherwise aimed at young women / children exactly? That they feature 'magical girls' is hardly relevant; both use trappings of a genre aimed at young girls as a theme for a variety of reasons, some creepier than others, and used it to do something different.

Even if you look at shoujo magical girl, the examples you two use aren't even that particularly "mega dark". This is the genre that contains Revolutionary Girl Utena and poo poo for gods' sake. Shoujo can be pretty bloody dark and corpse-y; poo poo just look at The Rose of Versailles. Hell, even from the super action-y side shoujo magical girl poo poo has been doing that thing for ages. Cutie Honey is one of the earliest examples of magical girl anime (if not the earliest example) and it's pretty much your typical Go Nagai action show just aimed at the goils.

So no, nope.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
That was a pretty killer guitar solo in the OP.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

aers posted:

If you want a laugh, realize that the majority of Precure characters are the same age as Usagi & co. Madoka too.



The oldest in the picture is supposed to be 14.

What I'm saying is Japan anime/manga has never been concerned with appearance vs. actual age.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Well, first appearance and they really did make Rei seem way more refined then the original series. Plus her raves are constantly present, which was cool to see.

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