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Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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Healbot posted:

Should have ended the game right after the equalizer imo.

I hope you get used to only being the second best team in the Bundesliga.

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Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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Much better to wait for Leverkusen to beat Bayern tomorrow.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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So he will miss Dortmund - Bayern? How unfortunate.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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It would make my day if Hertha BSC Berlin can win over Bayern. Go Hertha!

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Apr 27, 2013

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Come on Hertha, beat the cunts.

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Apr 27, 2013

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If everything stays at it is now, the teams on places 1 to 4 are the only teams that have more wins than losses. Just think about that.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Dunban posted:

Jesus Christ Hertha are cunts.

That is true. Bayern were beatable, why did Hertha allow them to win?

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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It won't be long until Dortmund beats the Bayern cunts, less than a month now.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Katana Gomai posted:

So he jacked up his severance pay and/or transfer fee. Like hell he is going to waste the next five years of his career in Dortmund.

How is he wasting his career in Dortmund? It is one of the biggest clubs in Europe.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Uli Hoeneß seems to be on a fast track for a conviction for tax evasion. It is scandalous that he still has a job.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Soulex posted:

Is it wrong that I like Bayern and Dortmund?

Dortmunds play style has me happy but Bayern is just Class.

I know they are rivals but I can't help it :ohdear:

Liking Dortmund is never wrong, as long as you don't like Schalke as well.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Cart Cam posted:

When I went to Berlin a bunch of people got upset at me for crossing the road despite there being no cars on the road so my opinion is gently caress Hertha BSC.

That is a German thing. Just yesterday I saw an old lady scolding two young boys who crossed the street although the crossing light was red. I live in North-Rhine Westphalia.

And what is not to like about Dortmund? We have the most likable manager in Klopp, while Bayern's manager bitch slaps his own players in public.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Adulterous Hitler posted:

Good lord, just write NRW.

I live in a state with an awesome name and not some lame poo poo like "bavaria".

Anyway, I hope Bayern Munich lose the next game, otherwise they would bust yet another Bundesliga record, and poor HSV deserves to keep that one (jointly with Bayern now, but eh).

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Apr 27, 2013

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I must be really bad at being a football goon, but I just don't understand.

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Apr 27, 2013

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MuLepton posted:

It's Mats Hummels wearing an Italy sweater.

:doh: I did not even look at the picture (beyond seeing a young guy there) and concentrated on the text. Well, let's just hope he will be part of a victorious team this evening.

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Apr 27, 2013

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sicDaniel posted:

So would you imply that this series of injuries is not a valid excuse for anything? I don't understand that comment.
The next two weeks will probably be a second Oktoberfest for those who don't like Dortmund. But considering that some of our fans are making up conspiracy theories about Jogi Löw letting the Dortmund players get injured in a meaningless match on purpose, I can kind of understand it.

Don't feed the trolls/Bayern plastics.

Regarding these laughable conspiracy theories, every group has these. 9/11 truthers, Illuminati fans or Jogi Löw nuts. Ignore them.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Katana Gomai posted:

Löw gives absolutely no fucks about anyone but himself, and Bayern doesn't need the DFB's help to beat Dortmund. It's a shame that they are suffering from so many injuries, but it is what it is.

Like in the Supercup, where Bayern crushed the BvB...

We will see who wins the game, if there even is a winner.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Dunban posted:

Even I'm getting tired by all this media hype surrounding the game. I haven't read a single article about it since basically everything that needed to be said about the match has been said a thousand times already.

Let's just play the loving match and be done with it.

Yeah this. Apart from reports on which players are injured I simply don't care for any other pre-game reporting.

And fair point to Leverkusen, perhaps they will become Meister.

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Apr 27, 2013

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BVB will still win the Champions League.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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Never specified the year! Of course, if the A-team players insist on getting serious injuries, perhaps they won't win the Champions League this year.

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Apr 27, 2013

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oh em gee bee ess posted:

Don't worry, all the Bayern supporters will be here soon enough to tell you why everything is perfectly fine in the league and to harden the gently caress up and deal with it.


Dunban posted:

Well, Dortmund had the cash to improve their bench..but instead they bought the lovely Armenian and Manuel loving Friedrich.

Seems like someone predicted the Bayern response quite accurately. It is of course ridiculous to suggest that Bayern and Dormund are/were on an equal level financially.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Dunban posted:

It's not like we're completely invincible or whatever. We nearly lost against Stuttgart for gently caress's sake. Our toughest game of the season so far was against Hertha - if a team that was just promoted can give us that much trouble then every single club in the Bundesliga can. I'm not sure why it's supposed to be Bayern's responsibility to keep the league fair or whatever. I mean, what are we supposed to do? Intentionally play worse? Not sign the players we need to sign and are able to get?
It's up to the rest of the league to step up their game and stop loving around.

Nobody expects Bayern fans to be sad about their team dominating the league. But coming in here and saying everything is fine and that the rest of the teams just need to step up their game and that nothing needs to be changed is quite grating. Nobody has even remotely the same financial resources as Bayern. That is the kind of structural advantage that leads to Bayern bosses freaking out if they don't win the league two times in a row!

A fix would be to redistribute TV money and the like a bit better. They try to keep the teams and drivers on even footing in the Formula 1, they should do it in the Bundesliga as well. In America the worst NFL teams have first dibs on the best players coming up, and if that kind of socialism is the norm in the country of free markets, it should be possible here in Europe as well.

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Apr 27, 2013

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elbkaida posted:

The answer to that is simply Uli Hoeneß. He is one of those guys who has the combination of having some business sense as well as having his heart in the right place. He kept the right people around and probably had a big part in keeping that Bayern esprit de corps in the management big.
Having a guy like him take over at the age of 27(!!!) and running things for 30+ years was absolutely massive for Bayern.

Many other historically big clubs like HSV, Schalke, Nürnberg, Gladbach, Frankfurt could be in a similar position to Bayern, if they didn't regularly have incompetent clowns running things. gently caress am I ever envious of clubs with sensible management. :argh:

Upstanding criminal Uli Hoeneß, leading Bayern to the very top of the German league. And the morality is

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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Leverkusen :negative:

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Apr 27, 2013

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ephex posted:

€18,5m... :wth:

Holy poo poo Uli. Holy poo poo.
You're gonna do jail time.

Not necessarily. You must do jail time over €1m, except in exceptional cases. Him coming forward and admitting it is €18.5m instead of €3.5m will probably count, together with his "voluntary disclosure of any undeclared tax liabilities" (from the dictionary for "Selbstanzeige"), as well as having no prior convictions and his social engagements. Anyway, I would be satisfied with probation, as long as he pays everything back.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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Welp, if this keeps getting bigger I think he cannot avoid doing jail time.

Though there are still people who think a fine would be punishment enough :psyduck:

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Apr 27, 2013

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Ho Chi Meeeeee posted:

This probably won't affect Bayern at all, will it?

It could, if Uli did something with the Bayern money as well. I would have thought that completely impossible just a week ago, but now?

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Apr 27, 2013

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ephex posted:

It's not like they're gonna let him walk bc he won the CL last year.
Every sentence beneath four years can be considered a huge success for him and his lawyer.

Who will be his replacement at Bayern? Any idea?

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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3 years 6 months jail time. Wow.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Katana Gomai posted:

Not to go too far off topic but speeding is something that can cost lives, so I'd wager it's a much more serious crime than tax fraud.

The example was bad, but driving cars in general can cost lives, even without speeding.

Anyway, you just need to look to Greece to see how a lax attitude to paying taxes can be a danger to the whole society.

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Apr 27, 2013

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ephex posted:

Not that great tbh, but the whole Dortmund team has been disappointing this season

Might have something to do with the unbelievable string of injuries they have suffered.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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What did that one Spanish reporter write? That Bayern is only dominating the league because the rest is poo poo, and Real Madrid are by far the best team in the world and will crush Bayern if the two meet?

Torrannor fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Mar 24, 2014

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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Who let the trolls out of their caves?


Jose posted:

First time I bet on Bayern to win and this happens ffs

Should have learned your lesson.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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Wow, ter Stegen being lucky that his transfer to Barca is a done deal already.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Dunban posted:

I dunno, is it a done deal already? He only said that he's leaving Barca but I don't think the transfer has been officially announced yet.

Huh, that would be a bit unfortunate for him then. What would he do instead? Stay at Mönchengladbach?

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Apr 27, 2013

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At least we got a HSV victory out of it. I don't want them to be relegated :ohdear:

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Apr 27, 2013

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Reset Smith posted:

Ah a chance for Dortmund to make up some ground on Bayern. :getin:

Three points closer to Bayern, I'll take it.

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Apr 27, 2013

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Distant Mist posted:

Stuff like this is why I don't think Völler is a smart man. (He's saying he had to fire Hyypiä because the ref's wrong decisions cost them the game)

Well, if the Leverkusen leaders thought that they could no longer justify him to their fans and were forced to fire him, but still had confidence in his ability to turn the club around, then this sentence may have made sense.

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Apr 27, 2013

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That's karma for traitorous scum people like Dunban cheering for Real against Dortmund.

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Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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hopterque posted:

Uh wasn't the game in Dortmund?

No it wasn't. 7,000 brave Dortmund fans cheering their team to victory.

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