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Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


I'm interested in sidegrading my current primary headphones (Sennheiser HD 650) into something a bit more aggressive without completely breaking the bank. The foam pads on the HD 650s started to tear (can't say I'm looking forward to the repair, it's either pay out the rear end for real Sennheiser parts or get aftermarket poo poo and hope it mostly fits) and I decided to plug my HD 598s (which I had never heard amplified before) into the amplifier and was blown away by how strong and powerful the bass is. I'd really like something that combines the power and presence of the HD 598 bass with some of the detail of the 650s, but not as expensive as the 650s.

Budget: Hopefully less than $300, I received the 650s as a gift and would not have purchased them with my own money--they're just too expensive
Source: Schiit Modi 2 DAC playing CD quality FLAC files
Amplification: Schiit Valhalla tube amp
Isolation requirements: None
Preferred type of headphone: Circumaural, big enough to fit my Barack Obama donkey ears
Preferred tonal balance: A strong bass but not at the expense of clarity and instrument separation.
Past headphones: Sennheiser HD 555, HD 595, HD 598, HD 650
Preferred music: classic heavy metal and USPM, prog rock, Romantic period classical (bombastic European poo poo)
Additional requirements: I'm a clumsy oaf so a strong, sturdy construction would be appreciated
Currently looking at: Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Dec 18, 2015

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Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


GokieKS posted:

Where are you located? You can get HD580/600/650 pads directly from Sennheiser USA for not that much - I paid $53 with tax and shipping when I had to replace them on my HD600s last year after about a decade of use.

USA, but even $53 is an awful lot for a bunch of velour and foam (Amazon charges around $70).

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


What are other goons' opinions of the Bauer stereophonic to binaural DSP plugin for foobar2000? I've experimented with it and it tends to make things just sound muffled to me.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


The DT 990s came in today. I'm not sure I like them. :(

They sound tinny and weak in the midrange and I have to turn my amp much higher than with the HD 650s despite the DT 990s having a lower impedance. Will they break in and sound better? I got them from Amazon, can I send them back even though I opened the packaging?

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


I grew up listening to my parents' stereo with all analog equipment (tubes for everything, phono stage, preamp, and power amp) and have always used Sennheiser headphones so the DT 990s were quite shocking. I'm thinking of sticking with my HD 650s even though they buzz a little when reproducing a very strong bass (like the Quake soundtrack). I suppose there are the Fidelio X2s someone else mentioned but I'm worried about getting something i don't like again.

E: Fidelio X2s have only 35 ohm impedance, that's not enough for the Schiit Valhalla.

E2: I'm starting to wonder if the HD 600s are the only real alternative to the 650s for the sound I'm looking for. I know some people like the 600s better.

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 21, 2015

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Playing the Quake soundtrack through my 650s, the right side buzzes while the left side does not. This on top of the torn ear pads and cosmetic damage to the headband. If I send them to Sennheiser for repair, will they likely charge me more the cost of a new pair?

E: Sennheiser offers replacement driver capsules...through their UK site. The US site has nothing.

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Dec 21, 2015

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


GokieKS posted:

Buzzing on one side at low frequencies sounds like there's hair or something stuck on the driver. Take it apart (very easily done on the HD650) and clean it out.

Opened it up, looked inside...definitely hair in there but I can't do poo poo with just a microfiber cloth, it's down below the guard. Is it safe to blast it out with canned air?

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


While I'm loving with my headphones, would an el cheapo braided cable for China (for appearance and to make it slide over/against other cables easily and smoothly) pose any risks to sound quality/the headphones themselves/my personal safety? Obviously cables don't make things better but a sufficiently lovely cable could make it worse by just not working correctly.

What I'm looking at: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5-3-5mm-C...D0OvaqqwOFfeCbQ

Unrelated: I hope they make the new black HD 598s standard, because the regular ones are ugly as sin, and if my pair is any indication, they age very poorly as well.

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Dec 21, 2015

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

Sennheiser 598SE. They're open backed so, not good for porn unless you live alone.
They're loving amazing for counter-strike though. Dare I say, leagues better than my closed backed ATH M70x.

All headphones are technically surround sound. You only have 2 ears.
Multi-channel trickery be damned!

Definitely this. "Gaming headphones" are going to be dumb overpriced poo poo, a decent pair of hi-fi headphones will be much better and deals don't get much better than the prices 598s go for on Amazon. They don't need an amp either.

As for surround, software surround can improve your experience with some games but you absolutely do not want it on for anything else--it will ruin music. I use Razer's surround because it came free with a mouse I bought. Works great with Doom.

The custom ear pads I bought for my HD 650s didn't fit (and were generally flimsy and lovely) so I had to buy OEM pads for Sennheiser's obscene price. Now I just need a new headband (:shepspends:) and they'll be good as new except for some dents in the grilles. God drat this hobby gets expensive when you go beyond "just buy a pair of 558s/598s and plug them into your computer". The total cost of my repairs to the 650s will come out to enough to buy a pair of 598s and then some. Now that I have new tubes and my amp is at full capacity, though, they sound way better than any 598s could hope to be, holy poo poo.

MrBond posted:

I have the senn 558 for my regular listening. I'm not missing much vs. the 598 right?

I've never heard the 558s, but I've heard 555s, 595s (the 5*5 models are discontinued), and 598s. 595s are quite a bit better than 555s, and 598s slightly better than 595s, but I'm not sure how the 558s stack up. You'll probably notice a difference, but if I were you I would not buy them until they have a good sale on them. And though the 500 series don't need an amp, it would probably be a noticeable improvement and you'll be spending $50-100 instead of $150-200.

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jan 8, 2016

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Sanctum posted:

As far as real headphones I've only ever had those 595s and one other sennheiser model that was way more expensive, I can't remember the model.

I'm no good for words here. Some headphones like to play things at different pitches -- I don't care about that part so much. What I mean is my 595s are audibly better at producing crisp notes than other headphones I own. It doesn't matter if I'm playing pokemon, there is a definite difference in inherent sound quality.

I have an Arcturus song I go to for bass repsonse, Alva Noto / Bad Sector for pitch, and Forseti for 'does it sound really good.' Plugging headphones into my DS is the real test though, those cheesy pokemon tunes tell all.

What you mean is frequency response. The Sennheiser HD595s have a very strong treble response while your other Sennheisers (HD 600s or 650s more likely) are more balanced. Also unless you're using an amplifier, HD 600s or 650s will suffer, they have high impedance and don't like weak sources.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Besson posted:

Itching to upgrade my Sennheiser 585s, if anyone has any good ideas for the next logical step up.

Thanks in advance.

Do you mean 595? The HD 585 does not exist.

For upgrades to the 595, there's not much in the same price range. The newer 598 is slightly better but not that much. The next real model up in Sennheiser's range is the HD 600, which is much more expensive ($300 or so) and requires an amplifier.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Ignore this post I am dumb :downs:

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Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Are the Sennheiser HD 660S as much of a ripoff as they look? From what I understand they offer no substantive improvements over the HD 600/650 series, only some minor tuning to make it sound less stereotypically Sennheiserish and some bronze decals that raise the price from $200 for the HD 6XX to $600.

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