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Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
I recall a PM we had for a short time at my previous job where he waited until the project leader was on vacation then tried to force us to give him time estimates on all the work that was upcoming for the project behind the project lead's back. He totally wasn't going to hold us to those estimates of course, they were just for informational purposes*. The project lead was quite pissed when she got back, and the PM was not a PM on that project for much longer.

Of course, we had 5 different PMs over the course of 3 years, and 5 different project leads. That project was a trainwreck due to management issues for a while.


*Of course we knew this was bullshit, any number we gave him was going to be locked in stone and if we lowballed it we would get in trouble for it, and so we refused to tell him anything until she got back from vacation.

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Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

Can we talk about documentation for a sec?

I document everything I do in Evernote or a git repository, depending on what I'm doing. Everyone else I work with is horrible at documenting anything.

What do you document? How thoroughly do you document it? What are most people missing in recording changes that are being made?

We have a lot of documentation on our wiki. Most of the time if you ask one of our project leads how to do something, if it is at all complicated he will just say it is on the wiki. At this point we expect most things to be on the wiki.

The problem is that there is so much stuff on the wiki that finding what you want is pretty impossible.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

nexxai posted:

I do not think you are clear on what "XP Mode" is. It's a specially bundled VM that MS put together using their Virtual PC/HyperV technology.

I believe he means a VM that isn't made with Microsoft's Virtual PC software.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
About 30 tickets and an email came in:

Our development at the place I've worked at for 3-4 months now goes in cycles. 1-2 weeks of prep time(figuring out what needs done, who is doing what, etc), 1 month of development, 1 week for developers to test on a regular server, then 1-2 weeks for our testers to test.

One of the biggest changes for this cycle was assigned to a developer who as it turns out was looking for another job, and left at the very end of the development window. As far as everyone knew, he had finished his work with the exception of a few small things. I volunteered to take care of those since I was done with my stuff. I fix those, thinking everything is done because that is the impression I was given.

Over the testing cycle it came to light that he had actually done extremely little of the work before he left, and as the person who volunteered to fix the one thing we knew about, I got the privilege of all the bug reports for the stuff that was missing. I spend the next couple weeks scrambling to figure out what is even supposed to be happening and fixing it as quickly as I can given that I know nothing about the part of the application this is happening in. While also working on my own stuff.

Today I get an email from my boss, that I will paraphrase as: "It has come to my attention that over the past couple weeks you have been assigned nearly 30 logs that are supposed to be finished with all testing by the end of this week, and yet you have still been working just 40 hours a week. You should have been working (unpaid) overtime to get these done."

My silent response: gently caress you, maybe it is time to look for another job already if that is going to be the expectation, that I work ungodly hours to fit 1.5 months work into 2 weeks because some rear end in a top hat decided to silently leave work undone and leave. One of the team leads said the other day that this should have been pushed into the next cycle when it became obvious that almost none of the work was done.

The local university, which has the best benefits I've ever seen, has an open developer position that pays $10k more than I'm making working here...

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Sonic Dude posted:

Regardless of the preceding story (but especially because of it), you should apply for this post-haste.

Normally I wouldn't just because it wouldn't look awesome on my resume to only be here for 4 months, but given that email...

As for whether I was keeping him in the loop: He is generally a very hands off manager, and doesn't even really pay any attention to the details of what we are doing. The team leads knew what was going on.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

The Fool posted:

I would some large amount of money that it's a default install from dell.

I would also bet that these aren't the original HDD's, and someone cloned the server to larger drives without resizing them.

Or they just like their partitions to be nice round numbers.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

coyo7e posted:

This is surprisingly commonplace. I spent many many hours setting up new hire intro packets and the company eventually stopped even buying the fancy company-logo binders they were put in, because they didn't get used and you'd often find them in the trash at a new hire's desk.

I would have loved a packet that said all three stuff I needed to do after starting my current job. They had just been purchased less than a year prior and no one really knew the new on boarding procedures.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

ConfusedUs posted:

Tech companies in Silicon Valley--especially startups--tend to have really loose rules for alcohol and stuff. Very laid back and chill atmosphere. As long as you do your job no one cares if you've had one or two (or half a dozen).

They acknowledge the existence of the Balmer Peak obviously. Sadly so few places do.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
We technically have local admin rights on or computers, but have software installed that won't let anything be installed or run that isn't on its whitelist. Really they are only useful for being able to install approved stuff without waiting a week or two for it to do it.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
I do wonder how all the "uncomfortable around someone watching porn" people would handle living some place like Japan where it seemed like regular newspapers have a porn section and said papers get read on the trains all the time. I don't know, maybe my time living there just kind of changed how I view such things.

I personally am a developer who also knows everything from hardware to a good amount of DBA skills as well as some sysadmin stuff. I also have the "pleasure" of fixing all of my family's computer problems. Which is where I had my first windows 8 experience, which caused a burning hatred for that OS.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
Oh, incidentally, my current job kind of requires developers to not be absolutely incompetent when it comes to computers, because when you get here on your first day you are given your imaged laptop, then unopened dell boxes with you docking station, 2 monitors, keyboard and mouse, laptop lock, and some cables, and are expected to hook everything up yourself.

evol262 posted:

And he couldn't tell me the right DIP switch settings for my 9600 baud serial modem!
And he can't terminate a SCSI cable!
And he doesn't know about AGP!

It's a little hyperbolic, but technologies get outdated. IDE is irrelevant unless you're designing compactflash adapters. It's 2013.

Pretty sure you are thinking of the wrong ide.

Khisanth Magus fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Oct 18, 2013

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

couldcareless posted:

That's actually what she was looking for. Why? I have no clue.

I'd assume that it was a word encountered somewhere, a student asked what it meant, teacher didn't know and searched for it. Not unreasonable.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

blackswordca posted:

Just found out why my requests for written copies of policies get ignored, we don't have an escalation policy or a scope of support policy at all.

You truly have the best job.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

nitrogen posted:

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
[gasp]

HAHAHAHahahaAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Seriously. If it's not written down, the policy is whatever management decides it is, and you had better be telepathic.

And if management doesn't like you or needs a scapegoat, the policy will retroactively be whatever makes you look bad.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

tehloki posted:

Haha. So, an event is coming up where all the coaches might have to be in a different city across the country for a week. This will involve disconnecting their ($150,000 or so) video server, packing it up in an air shipping case, getting it into a hotel, setting it up there, running and terminating cat5 from wherever it is to a bunch of meeting rooms so they can work off of it, and making sure it all works with the hotel internet.

They want me to teach all of these things to the A/V guy so they don't have to pay to send me.

Bahahahahahaha

This sounds like a great idea and I see nothing that could go wrong with it.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
I personally think this sounds like a great plan and I'd feel honored if I was a part of it. It is extremely solid and well thought out, particularly the "not clearing running cables through their hotel past the hotel people yet" part.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
My favorite part of office 2013 is that if file associations get messed up there is no easy way to reassociate them to the correct office product because there is no exe file.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

blackswordca posted:

Extra bit of fun today..

It looks like the Sr/Account lead removed the WSUS role from the deployment server but didn't remove the GPO telling all of the other servers to get their updates only from the WSUS.

Is this the same guy who ran away to cuba?

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

blackswordca posted:

In fact, it is

I wonder how long before that place bursts into flames once you finally get another job.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

blackswordca posted:

A bunch of tickets came in.

The Sr tech moved the personal folders for all of this clients employees ...in the middle of the work day... without making any adjustments to GPO mapping.

Seriously, how have these incompetant morons even managed to get jobs, let alone keep them? And Sr level jobs at that?

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
I can't deny wanting to bring in a space heater to my job. Most of my building is programmed to a nice comfortable 72. Not my section, no, we get 68. And the thermostats are locked so we can't change it.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
There are days when I will be at work and will literally be rubbing my hands together or blowing on them as they are freezing from typing in the cold air. Sadly wearing gloves while programming doesn't work out.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Galler posted:

I'm so sorry that you must waste your time installing a completely worthless AV. If it's any consolation Trend is slightly better than McAfee.

At least trend micro is less likely to flag either system files or its own files as infected and delete or quarantine them.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

ConfusedUs posted:

I saw 25 replies to this thread and immediately thought "blackswordca posted". I wasn't sure if it was hopeful or bullshit or both, but I knew it was him.

blackswordca, we are rooting for you.

Think how much more boring this thread will be without him though.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
Yeah, the moment he disabled auditing to cover his tracks he moved from incompetent to malicious and needs to be reported.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
You know, I really hope blacksword tips off the client he works with about the fraud when he leaves.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

dogstile posted:

Suppose i've just never seen the appeal of shouting at someone. To much stress.

It is to relieve the stress of your superiors breathing down your neck and blaming you for it not working while the "support" on the other end lies their asses off and sits on their hands.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

fivre posted:

Hey, if we can do something, we usually do. However, emailing us repeatedly cannot and will not expedite customs processing in Asia.

Well, then give that reason so it can be passed on to said blaming superiors instead of coming up with some bs lie or knowingly incorrectly blaming the customer, both of which are not going to placate managers.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

blackswordca posted:

I need an extra set of hands in here this week, but the sr and account lead are nowhere to be found. Ive gone from 20 tickets on the clients board before Christmas to over 60 now and they are mostly high priority issues.

Wouldn't either of those 2 being there just result in more stuff being broken?

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
The company I work for has a 120 MB limit on email. Which I personally think is a bit small.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Che Delilas posted:

I feel like I have to come in here and remind people that not all developers are blithering idiots, and some of us appreciate the rest of IT and the unique contributions you bring to a project. Because it's embarrassing to me when I hear stories of developers like this, or ones who hold their nose in the air when talking to support techs or admins.

(Also, Microsoft has changed its install folder scheme recently. It used to be that the start menu entry for VS would be "Microsoft Visual Studio 20whatever" but they've apparently recently dropped the "Microsoft," at least for 2013, so it's in a completely different location in the start menu. That could EXPLAIN the confusion, but it certainly doesn't excuse calling over a tech.)

Edit: I should mention that nearly all the job postings for developers I've ever read include "Detail-Oriented" as a bullet point on the requirements list. :rolleyes:

Yeah, same here. Not all of us developers are blithering idiots. Sadly I knew plenty of people in my CS program that were this incompetent though. Personally I think that if you have to spend the entire time you are working in a project in the TA's office so you can get constant help you are not qualified to be a developer and need to pick a new major.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
When I got computers from Dell through my former employer's employee discount I was unable to use the chat help. I always had to call to get any help. Was very annoying.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Great Beer posted:

Ticket: Users lotus notes is locked up due to a large attachment.

Problem: User accidentally attached his 92gb C:\ drive. :cripes:

Why would Lotus let you attach a whole drive Nah, it isn't even worth asking, the answer is just "It is Lotus."

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Agrikk posted:

^^^ drat you. Lucky sonofabitch.


I don't understand how keys pop off of laptop keyboards. Seriously folks. What the gently caress are you doing that makes a button that is designed to be pressed down pop UP off the keyboard?

I've been using laptops since I had my first big rear end battleship of a Dell twenty years ago and I've never had a key pop off. Ever. I've had motherboards/video cards die, cables get damaged due to repetitive stress, hard drives fail, but I've never had a keyboard break. I don't get it.

An old laptop of mine had a couple missing keys because if I forgot to close it one of my cats would sleep on it and would occasionally hook claws on keys as she stretched when waking up.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Che Delilas posted:

Oh man, the best part about being completely disgruntled is not giving two shits about this kind of thing. Twitch.tv playing on my second monitor all day while I'm coding? Sure, why not. Only 480p though, 'cause I'm considerate like that.

Having severe ADD doing stuff like this is pretty much a necessity for me. Although typically its more like playing podcasts or youtube stuff in the background I just listen to while doing other work.

And my work internet can't handle twitch on anything higher than "mobile" level quality.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Cavepimp posted:

Ticket came in! The website was hacked, which somehow became my problem because they decided to fire the consultant who built it and never got around to finding a new one.

Old version of Joomla (and even older plugins) susceptible to exploits. Hooray.

The people whom my group is the contractor for is specifying we use an old version of software with known exploits. On a public facing web app dealing with sensitive personal information. This can only go well.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Collateral Damage posted:

Let me guess, they're aware of remote exploits in their version, yet they refuse to pay for an upgrade?

It's a loving open source framework, they have just spontaneously gotten paranoid about open source and so are specifying we use the version that comes on the server, which is several years out of date with known exploits. We have told them this is a loving terrible idea, but they won't budge.

Oh, and this directly contradicts(and to a degree makes impossible that we use the "n-1" version of all libraries/frameworks/etc. Again, won't budge.

Khisanth Magus fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Feb 24, 2014

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

AlternateAccount posted:

Yeah. At that point you either get some signed liability waivers or better yet just back away from that deal slowly.

Ummm, this is an ongoing, multi million dollar contract, so waking away is nor really an option. We will be making them sign off on the fact they are forcing us to deploy this with a version with known exploits against our recommendations and protests though.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Cavepimp posted:

Any one of those things on its own is a nightmare. You need to get the hell out of there.

Ever thought about moving to Portland Oregon?

I really need to move to Portland and get out of Iowa before next winter. So much better weather. And trees, there are actually trees instead of all the corn!

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Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

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Che Delilas posted:

Californians will ask you what city is between X(city) and Y(city). When you say, "nothing, it's just trees and/or farmland," they can't figure out what you mean.

My reply living in Iowa would be "Corn." Which is depressing as hell, I hate seeing corn.

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