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Hi, I'm new to this game and already spent a bunch of money on Ice Storm and Red Veil, but then someone showed me that Avatar and now I want to play the army that gets that one. Is there an army list somewhere of stuff that's reasonably friendly for a new player to pick up and play?
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Feb 7, 2018 01:37
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Flipswitch posted:Niiiice, get em build up mate! I still have to build a list with these guys, I'm not entirely certain how it's going to work out but in this shipment I bought 3 different hackers by accident solely because I liked their models. I've got a bunch of unpainted Ghulams and Alguaciles from Red Veil/Ice Storm so I'm gonna paint them up in my YJ army colours and proxy them as Kuang Shi. Enemies of the State indeed.
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Feb 7, 2018 03:03
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Under 15 posted:The Yan Huo neurocinetics profile will completely gently caress up anything that isn't firing through smoke or have TO/surprise. It erases dudes from the table like none other. I think it's the strongest ARO piece, worse than the Sin Eater. Stooooooop you're making me want to go vanilla YJ instead of using the ISS I've already half-painted.
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Mar 2, 2018 01:47
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I've officially found a group of Infinity players in my area! Problem is I have no idea what my list should look like so I'm fiddling with a generalist group based on what I've read about what's good: Imperial Service────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1   9  4 CRANE IMPERIAL AGENT (X Visor) Spitfire, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 54) CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13) CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) XI ZHUANG Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, MadTraps / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) KUANG SHI Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) KUANG SHI Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)GROUP 2 5  SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31) YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) KǍNRÈN Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0.5 | 32) BÀO TROOP (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army The Crane Agent, Celestial Guards, and Xi Zhuang are all in a 5-man Core fireteam, which if I'm reading the rules on this correctly means the Crane Spitfire gets 5 shots at effective BS 16? Otherwise the gimmick is to set up the Bao Troop and Rui Shi on rooftops or in good firelanes to cover flanking attempts while the Kanren plays a shell game and pretends to be 2 different types of Kanren (is this allowed, or is the AHD open information?) while the Ninja Hacker hangs out and waits to eat opposing hackers or make an end run at the objective. Sophie's also there to patch people up if needed. I've never actually played though, so I'm not sure if this list has any glaring weaknesses I might be missing or if it's just completely against what the ISS is meant to do. Any help is appreciated!
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Mar 3, 2018 02:30
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fatherboxx posted:Get rid of Boarding Shotgun Kuang Shi in favor of Chain Rifles, if you dont use them in a link, they are not good for anything. Yeah! I made some adjustments to the list, dropped the Bao, got a full set of Kuang Shi Chain Rifles for both groups, and replaced Xi Zhuang for a Forward Observer. I played my very first day of Infinity at my LGS today; after a couple of simple annihilation 150pt games to figure it out, we hopped right into a 300pt game of Safe Zone, ISS vs Hassassin. Opponent opted to go first, so I stuck my Rui Shi on top of a building, and despite being a questionable ARO piece he ended up killing a couple units and forcing my opponent to burn almost his entire order pool killing it. It was a super fun game with a lot of back and forth, mostly my Kuang Shi running out and dying to a massive sniping nest he set up at his end of the table. It looked like he was going to win until at the bottom of the third turn I ran my Sophotect out from behind cover, into a smoke cloud on top of the objective, while my link team blew their entire order pool dropping a line of smoke right through the middle of the table and madly dashing to get into B2B with one of the consoles on his side of the table. And of course, Ninja pops out of hidden deployment and snaps up two objective points by pressing the button and holding a completely empty quadrant. My first real game of Infinity and I get a minor victory at 6-5. I'm really excited to play again next week! 
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Mar 5, 2018 10:50
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Pierzak posted:"We are second class citizens because of Japanese terrorism! Muh dignity! Muh oppression! Down with Chinese, reinstate Japanese Emperor!" This is often the case in real life; despite popular opinion, violent coups tend to become just as or worse than the oppression they were trying to remove. Clawtopsy posted:i think the 'non aligned armies' are a really GW-allies-esque way of getting people to buy units from a different faction and end up getting more because nerds have terrible self restraint Yes this is true. I've been bitten by the bug real bad and spent today painting the spare Icestorm Nomad models I had laying around. Now I want to make a Nomads army. Speaking of which, what Nomad box sets should I pick up? No big preferences on sectorial or vanilla. The cooler the models, the better.
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Mar 6, 2018 08:05
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Just read the description for the Uberfalkommandos. It's, uh... 
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Mar 7, 2018 01:07
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I need some silhouettes, templates, and order tokens. Anybody know of any good places that make some eye-catching accessories?
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Mar 8, 2018 02:24
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Cat Face Joe posted:If you're in the US it's warsen.al. Canada. Shipping the things I wanted was fully half the total cost of the product. It's ok though, I grabbed some of the cool stuff from Art of War.
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Mar 8, 2018 21:35
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LizardBeam posted:Considering picking up more YJ after I get some more games under my belt. Maybe leaning towards IA. Tell me how terrible a list this is, even though I want to love it: I like the idea of dropping two Yan Huo models on the table after deployment, but I feel like you can get more value out of the list by trading in Sunny T for a Celestial Guard LT, another Kuang Shi, a Killer Ninja, and still probably have enough points left for a snifferbot.
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Mar 9, 2018 09:27
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A Terrible Idea
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
ZÚYǑNG (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 28)
YĀN HUǑ 2 Missile Launchers + TinBot C (Neurocinetics) / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 56)
SHÀNG JÍ Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 43)
SUN TZE Lieutenant (Advanced Command) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulsers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 60)
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PSA: Despite Su Jians being robots, they are just as vulnerable to losing 3 heavy flamethrower rolls in a row as the rest of my troops.  Good thing I had a second one!
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Mar 12, 2018 04:35
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S.J. posted:Yeah, this kind of stuff is basically why I even started the game / chose Yu Jing. Next up is the Missile Launcher variant. Hell yeah. My LGS just got the Onyx Contact Force 300pt box in, and with that and the Combined Army Support Pack, a helpful player designed a pair of lists I can play almost entirely out of the box. Add to that the cool new proxy rules means I can use my slick new Szalamandra in place of an Overdron Batroid means I'm going to have a fantastic time putting together lists all week. That I managed to pick up an entire new army for ~150CAD is insane, I love this game.
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Mar 12, 2018 06:32
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The last tier event for my LGS ITS is Decapitation. I have no idea how to build an ISS list to take advantage of that, but I kinda wanna do a two Su Jian list powered by a Kuang Shi battery and led by Sun Tze. How important are specialists in Decapitation? I know it's mostly about picking off Lieutenants, but should I be bringing a Sophotect along just in case? Alternatively: gently caress Su Jians, fill out on AVA 2 Rui Shi and AVA 3 TR bots then sit in a corner and wait for them to come to me. 
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Mar 13, 2018 22:06
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Genghis Cohen posted:I should point out that in decaptitation (or firefight - anything which rewards lt kills) an oniwaban or their special character is absolutely clutch. If you go first it’s your reserve model, roll for superior infiltration and enjoy a good chance to alpha strike your opponent. If going second, do hidden deployment but still try the roll. I remember hearing about a JSA list that was just 9 infiltrating TO camo troopers and a courtesy list of one guy. Now I kinda wanna give that a go. Magic Rabbit Hat fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Mar 14, 2018 |
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Mar 14, 2018 19:51
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Pierzak posted:1. It's not a proper TO list without handing the opponent an empty courtesy list with only a title. Oh, I've already got a list for the switchover.   The Tastiest Bait────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7  NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) ONIWABAN Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0 | 41) ONIWABAN Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0 | 41) SHINOBU Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (1 | 47) SAITO TOGAN Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 39)GROUP 2 5  KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)1 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
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Mar 14, 2018 21:03
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The ISS is the faction closest to destroying Anime and that's why I run them. 
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Mar 16, 2018 00:29
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Clawtopsy posted:or we can just watch as yu jing becomes cartoonishly evil as opposed to secret police evil As if this wasn't the best reason for joining them in the first place.
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Mar 16, 2018 03:58
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Cassa posted:Ah yeah good point. Im honestly excited that the game is moving forward, I'd just like to know how my main army is being affected now. Yup! All the PanO players in my group run Joan, none of the YJ players care about Sun Tze. Guess who I'm rooting for? Combined Army Cassa posted:More tactically, if you're sitting in cover, and the enemy walks up to Chain Rifle you, how would you react? I lost my HMG Hsien to three Kuang Shi launching themselves into his suppressive fire. Any time my opponent doesn't dodge a Chain Rifle shot I consider it a win; it's a common thread in many RPGs that the fewer dice you have to roll to deal damage, the better. This works inversely for damage saves, too! It's also a win-win for the Kuang Shi. When he comes around the corner your opponent can dodge or shoot; if he shoots, you Chain Rifle him. If he dodges, you Pistol him.
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Mar 16, 2018 19:24
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Khisanth Magus posted:As the yu Jing player in that situation, if he elects to shoot you and you chain rifle him and he wounds you but you don't kill him, do you choose to exlode if you are in explode range or do you go dogged. Explode if it's a 1 on 1 situation; if it's your turn and your Kuang Shi explodes, they don't get to make a Dodge roll, they have to soak a damage 13 hit with Shock. It's relevant if you're hitting targets with Dogged or No Wound Incap, since it bypasses those effects. Dogged is for when there are other Kuang Shi bringing up the rear, or I can hit more people with a Chain Rifle than an explosion. There's also a psychological element, too; if your Kuang Shi is dogged, your opponents will often be reluctant to shoot back to finish them off rather than dodge and allow you to put two pistol shots into their chest from point-blank in no cover. As Sun Tze tzays: reading your opponent and is just as important as reading the battlefield. Kuang Shi are so good. Genghis Cohen posted:I think it'd be better to explode (doesn't require orders and doesn't grant a fresh attempt to dodge). However that is pretty bloody close, enough so he would have the option to declare Engage rather than anything else. Thankfully, we have a tool for that! This is your standard Kuang Shi rounding cover and putting two bullets into a dodging Fusilier. This is the same situation, but with a Chain Rifle With the Pistol, your Kuang Shi has a 50% chance of putting a single Wound on the Fusiler; Chain Rifle's damage plummets to 30% if they attempt to dodge. If the Fusilier shoots the Kuang Shi, there's a 60% chance of getting that wound via the Chain Rifle, vs a 38% chance if the Kuang Shi shoots with the pistol. This is all under ideal conditions, but generally speaking Kuang Shi coming around a corner and popping a cheerleader gang with a Chain Rifle happens often enough that it makes a good situation to base the math off of. Magic Rabbit Hat fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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Mar 16, 2018 21:58
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Ilor posted:I played an opponent in a tournament who ran a 5-man link team of DeFersen, another Hospitaller, and 3 Magister Knights, and that was pretty bad-rear end. Unfortunately for him, his game plan sort of unraveled when I took out the two TO Camo Order Sergeant specialists upon which he was relying to accomplish objectives in my first turn. He ended up having to drop the third one (a MULTI Sniper) prone to get away from by Djanbazan HMG, who promptly advanced, entered suppression, and kept him locked down all game. This pretty much forced him to bully his way up the field with his HI link, but the presence of a nasty terrain choke point meant my Janissary ML was doing yeoman's work getting multiple troops under a template with AROs in her ideal range band. By the time he was able to position one of his Magisters to get in a clean shot at my Janissary, I'd broken his link and removed his Burst bonus. It was...not pretty. The guy was a great opponent, and all that HI was a tough nut to crack, but ultimately it was a whole huge whack of points that wasn't winning him the game. And adding insult to injury, I obliterated what lead he had on points in that zone with a 38-point IntelCom card. Between the coincidental soft counters in my list, the mission objectives, and the terrain, he was looking at an uphill battle from the get go. I learned this lesson last week when my opponent rolled over me with a 5man link team of DeFersen+knights. I ended up conceding when he chewed up my entire order pool, then the next game against a different opponent two Kuang Shi proceeded to push his poo poo in by killing ~60 points worth of troops then exploding their Lieutenant into unconsciousness. Never count out the little dudes, they're more effective than you think.
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Mar 18, 2018 07:50
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Learned a lesson in humility today when my double Su Jian Decapitation list lost both Su Jians in the first turn without killing anything. Ended up conceding at the bottom of turn 2 when I realized there would be no way to come back in victory points. On the upside, Sun Tze ate nearly all of my opponent's order pool by refusing to die to a Sphinx. The man is tough to kill.
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Mar 19, 2018 04:31
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You can go hogwild with ISS in Recon: Imperial Service ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 8 1 CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13) XI ZHUANG Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, MadTraps / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) CRANE IMPERIAL AGENT Lieutenant (X Visor) Spitfire, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 54) CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)2.5 SWC | 150 Points Open in Infinity Army Start with a fireteam of Xi Zhuang, Light Smoke Celestial Guard, and the Crane Agent; cover their advance with smoke if needed, then plop the Crane down in cover on top of the objective, put him into Suppression, and reform the link with Xi Zhuang, Smokey, and the Forward Observer Guard. Forward Deploy the Ninja near other objectives, then have her pop out of hidden deployment and cut a dude in half (or just press a button). Don't disregard the single Kuang Shi. They're extremely good at chewing up poorly positioned enemy fireteams and digging people out of cover.
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Mar 21, 2018 07:33
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grassy gnoll posted:I'd rather have a Celestial Guard than a CSU or a bounty hunter, but if I had to pick between the two, I'd take the CSU for the regular order it gives me. All good advice, but keep in mind that in ISS, bounty hunters, including Sforza and Ashcroft, are regular!
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Mar 22, 2018 10:05
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:How would I deal with a well placed HMG Intruder in Recon with the lists I posted? Just have to make sure to catch him from outside suppressive fire range? Chain Rifle, preferably from around a corner. Or use Susan's insane 8in cautious movement to dip behind him and shove a flamethrower up his rear end. I think change facing breaks suppression?
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Mar 24, 2018 08:17
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I'm most excited for the Celestial Guard heavy weapon box that was spoken about in the Q&A.
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Mar 24, 2018 22:27
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w00tmonger posted:Aleph is dope. You guys are missing out on all the Greek dudes Aleph models are absolutely loving dope for sci-fi themed tabletop RPGs, too. Highly recommend picking some up if you play Stars Without Number or Shadowrun and the like.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:16
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Xi is a pretty big part of my Celestial Guard/Crane link team in ISS, buuuuuut it's not like I don't have other options that are just as powerful. Losing access to another set of Madtraps kinda sucks though!
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Apr 3, 2018 21:00
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My Kuang Shi finally arrived! They were the old sculpts.  I felt like a jerk returning them but man, I really want the new ones.
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Apr 6, 2018 09:53
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Flipswitch posted:Uprising 2 should be Bakunin yiffing themselves to death. Please don't imply that there should be an NA2 army composed entirely of furries
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Apr 6, 2018 22:16
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If you paint them up in Yu Jing colours, that means you can take them in your army, right?     https://imgur.com/a/iOMK1
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Apr 7, 2018 07:34
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Actually, that does remind me; isn't the Guijia kinda... not good? I'm comparing it directly to the Su Jian, and despite the higher armor and specialist pilot, Susan seems to be all-around better.
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Apr 7, 2018 23:06
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Sorry about the tough break, it sucks when the dice decide they don't want you to play today. To answer your question; only the 1 would be able to return fire on your Intruder. SSL2 only allows the target of an attack to react in ARO; without MSV2, nobody else in the fireteam would be able to react as they have no LOF of the attacker. In either case, your Intruder will still be taking at least two chain rifle shots though.
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Apr 9, 2018 01:56
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I had a delightful game where I finally got to Biolocator a Kuang Shi to put supportware on my TRbot, who immediately ate dirt because trying to outshoot PanO is a losing battle. On the upside, the Wu Ming pain train completely locked down their half of the map, and I got to disguise my Lu Dan as a Rui Shi and blast a couple dudes off the map with a MK 12, which is awesome and I want to keep using it.
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Apr 9, 2018 02:24
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fatherboxx posted:The current ISS starter that was released in 2016 is the second incarnation and has 3 new Combi Rifle models. The ones in the separate box are way older and are all special weapons profiles - Control Device, Hacker, Spitfire and Multi Sniper Rifle. It is somewhat unusual, because the new Moderators for Bakunin were released not far from the new starter and Yu Jing got new Zhanshi SWC box, despite having zero use for them. Can't come out soon enough, my Celestial Guard link teams have a couple members who look suspiciously like Zhangying agents. It's a safe bet those Zhanshi will end up being the Invincible Army's cheerleader troops, and the Hac Tao hacker + HMG pack on an AVA 1 unit in vanilla YJ makes me think IA will be the next sectoral after Tunguska. How the hell anyone expects an army composed almost entirely of heavy infantry will function is beyond me, but Military Orders exist so whoooooo knoooows.
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Apr 11, 2018 01:35
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Clawtopsy posted:a starter league, better make everyone STARTer to hate me but running 6 cuntgrunts! Getting your link team melted/shotgunned by an infiltrating Grunt is a rite of passage for any Infinity player; better they learn spacing sooner rather than later.
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Apr 14, 2018 07:58
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Rules question: I have a Lu Dan disguising itself as a Rui Shi or whatever. I run it up to the ZOC of my opponent's TAG or HI or other hackable target and attempt to hack them; does hacking someone through a repeater in Holoecho state reveal the Repeater's model?
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Apr 15, 2018 07:27
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Clawtopsy posted:So, early reports from people who have gotten Uprising say there's stuff like Celestial Guard gunning down a 15 year old girl A new moral low for the faction that uses brainwashed political prisoners fitted with explosive collars as targeting markers for guided missile strikes.
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Apr 17, 2018 04:02
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Cassa posted:It's ok they are all bad people. I mean, Celestial Guards are cops. Shooting minority children is the most realistic thing about them.
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Cat Face Joe posted:oh hey new gabe One group are the blue-armoured, sword-wielding zealous elite warriors of a monolithic government adhering to an ancient religion, the other are 40k Space Marines.
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