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Flipswitch posted:

Impulse TAG purchases are the best type of purchases.

Hurts a bit when your faction has so many though. :(


WHERE'S MY loving MAGHARIBA RESCULPT GODDAMNIT :argh:

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I'm serious. I want to impulse buy TAGs too, but I play Haqq and Ariadna. :shepspends:

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Flipswitch posted:

Well that's your own fault for picking the resculpt faction and the faction that dared to rock up in a science-fiction game without any of the science. greatest and coolest factions for baller sexhavers!

Shameful.

:iia:

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Why is Tarik Mansuri so loving huge (S5)?

Condoleezza Nice! fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Aug 5, 2015

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Hey Flip, I don't know what kind of relationship you have with Firestorm Games, but the Aswuang with Spitfire is listed under Haqqislam on the website.

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Moving away from my Haqqislam kick for a little while, I got loving murdered by a buddy on friday. I have been planning my revenge, Ariadna style:

Ariadna
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Group 1 10 0 0
LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
LINE KAZAK Paramedic (MediKit) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (11)
PARA-COMMANDO HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 31)
UXÍA McNEILL (Covert Action) (CH: Limited Camouflage, Superior Infiltration, Specialist Troop) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / 2 Assault Pistols, AP CCW, Knife. (27)
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
VETERAN KAZAK Lieutenant AP Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (37)
ZOUAVE Paramedic (MediKit) Rifle, D.E.P. / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
MOBLOT (Infiltration) Rifle, Light Shotgun E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (26)
VETERAN KAZAK AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 47)

Group 2 2 0 0
SCOUT (Forward Observer) Ojotnik, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (30)
SCOUT Ojotnik, D-Charges, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (29)

4 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 5



Alt. list:

Ariadna
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Group 1 10 0 0
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (9)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (9)
SPETSNAZ (CH: Mimetism, AD: Parachutist) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (33)
UXÍA McNEILL (Covert Action) (CH: Limited Camouflage, Superior Infiltration, Specialist Troop) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / 2 Assault Pistols, AP CCW, Knife. (27)
VETERAN KAZAK AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 47)
VETERAN KAZAK Lieutenant AP Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (37)
ZOUAVE Paramedic (MediKit) Rifle, D.E.P. / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
MOBLOT (Infiltration) Rifle, Light Shotgun E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (26)
SCOUT (Forward Observer) Ojotnik, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (30)
SCOUT Ojotnik, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (29)

Group 2 1 0 0
PARA-COMMANDO HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 31)

3.5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 5




We play any and all ITS scenarii. Any thoughts or criticisms?

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Hoboskins posted:

I really don't love the tiny second group which in both lists have expensive (for Ariadna) dudes in it, and who need some orders to get poo poo done. The HMG para commando in particular can absolutely murder people if you position him correctly. Ariadna has tons of cheaper units most of which have either chain rifles, smoke or some combination of the two. For the cost of two Kazaks you can get 3 dudes with smoke and chain rifles Galwegians or Volunteers (ava 2 so you need to mix it up). Vet Kazaks are always awesome, I'm personally not a huge fan of the AP rifle variant, preferring the HMG/T2 Rifle+light Flamer and Xvisor the latter being 0 swc is even better.Most importantly not taking any Tank Hunters is a SIN. If you want to use the Zouave take a sapper variant.

To sum up more cheap dudes and either ditch the second group (unless you have some really fantastic plan) or rebalance your teams so that each group has enough orders. Consider if you have them: Volunteers, Galwegians, Irmandinhos, Tank Hunters, Loup-Garou viral rifle variant, insert cheap camo marker option here with shotgun.

Hm. I'll have to think about it. The idea behind the second list was basically to spend a command token to shove the paracommando into combat group one, as I've invariably lost some units by the time he arrives.

Really not a fan of Irmadinhos, but that's because the model is ugly as sin. I could convert/proxy some Metros as a stand in though. Tank Hunters are really good, yes, but they are kind of a crutch. Should I take the AP HMG or Autocannon in your opinion?

This match is a long way off, and I got a sizable tax return, so I'll buy whatever I need. :retrogames: :shepspends:

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Genghis Cohen posted:

I prefer this second list as having fewer order-hog models. Suggestions: Downgrade the moblot to a chasseur, spend SWC to make the spetsnaz parachutist into a heavy machine gun spetsnaz. They are well spoken of as the best heavy weapon carrier in ariadna, and I think shotgun parachutists would be difficult to use, and 1 AD trooper is enough.

I'll definitely think about changing the spetsnaz, but I kind of have HMG area denial down pat already. Besides, the Spetsnaz boarding shotgun is the coolest model in all of Ariadna.


Hoboskins posted:

if you already have some hmg dudes the auto cannon is probably a better option, especially with the range changes to hmgs. I like all the above suggestions, though if expanding your horizons and avoiding crutches is part of your plan Chasseur would fit that bill. If you hate irmandinhos I would probably hold off buying them. No doubt just as you purchase them CB will announce a resculpt.

Tank Hunter with Autocannon sounds more and more tempting.

Question: Do you get both the benefit of Level 1 and 2 for Marksmanship, or do you choose? The wiki doesn't specify.

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Genghis Cohen posted:

L2 includes the benefits of L1. Level X is its own thing which does not include the other two.

Jesus H. Christ. :catstare:

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Tempted to bring a Spetsnaz sniper now. Why are you doing this to me, thread? :shepicide:

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Flipswitch posted:

Buy all the things, friend.

Yes. Apparently. :negative:


Hoboskins posted:

The real question is why aren't you buying the new American box! Cheap heavy flamethrowers, Motorcycles, Werewolves with guns and pet killer wolf/dog things! Also Rambo complete with bow and arrow. What's not to love. Speaking of which I better order mine...

In time. But as for why not right now? Werewolves aren't really my thing, and USARF doesn't really seem like my jam. If it turns out to be awesome, then I will get some of them when they are available separately.

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So, made my first large order from Firestorm. Here's hoping they're as good as you say, Flip! Speaking of; over half of my order had availability 1–5 days. Is that a reasonable estimate, in your experience?

Exmond posted:

What happens if i mention the werewolves are.. FRENCH SPACE WEREWOLVES IN SPAAAAAAAACE!

I admit that antipodes are why I got into USAriadna.

Oh goddamn it. I just realized I could be making Hulk jokes while playing. gently caress. Mind changed. Getting some Werewolves.

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Corbeau posted:

Going to buy all of the eventual Haqqislam packs so hard.

:ussr: And the Kazak pack in particular. :ussr:

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Genghis Cohen posted:

Really? Seems like the non-template rounds are completely useless for shotguns even against single models then, unless you are up against models out of cover. If the original target beats my model by shooting, does the template still go off?

No. The template only goes off if you actually hit. not sure if you have to wound or not. Besides, non-template rounds do more damage. Only use template rounds if you can hit multiple models.

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Corbeau posted:

Unless you're shooting a TAG or a target without cover, use the template.

You what? Come again?

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Pierzak posted:

And -3 dmg from cover, which template nullifies.

Explain like I'm five. I have a feeling we're interpreting the rules differently. As in, I don't understand how that would work.

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Corbeau posted:

If you hit a target with a template weapon of any kind, they do not get an armor bonus from being in cover. This includes impact template weapons like shotguns. So if we're talking about a Boarding Shotgun then it's always better to use the template rather than the AP slug unless the target is in the open (in which case there's no cover ARM bonus to negate) or has 8+ armor (in which case the slug would be +4 effective damage while the template would be +3 effective damage).

:stare: :dogbutton: :shepicide:

So, the way we've interpreted shotgun rules is that the template is placed after the ARM roll. That's wrong, apparently. Good thing I don't play two shotgun heavy forces. Oh wait I do. gently caress


goodness posted:

Template blast goes through cover, hurt man good.
Regular shot bounce off cover, hurt man little

I'm smrat :downs:

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Genghis Cohen posted:

Hey, if I use a coordinated order to drop troops onto the field via AD, can I use one of those AD troop's order as the regular order, as I would if deploying it alone? Or does the coord order require a regular order from my pool?

You use one of the airdropping models' orders, as you would if you were deploying it alone.

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Pierzak posted:

why do i have a gecko what are you doing on my table how did you get here

:getin:

Gonna buy me an Iguana and Gecko because they're cool.

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So my FLGS suddenly has an Antipode Assault Pack in stock. What do?

Note: All they ever have in stock is Pano or Nomads normally.

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Flipswitch posted:

If ya gonna use 'em, buy 'em.

The new sculpts are absolutely gorgeous, it's such an awesome box.

Maybe? I don't know? Probably? They just seem so incredibly fragile! S5 ARM 0 BTS 0 W1? No guns either. I have no idea how I would make them work, to be honest.

Agreed on the sculpts being good.

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Alright I get it! I'll get them. Eventually.

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Look at what I found on reddit!

Don't be this guy. Thin your loving paints.

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So I just had an interesting discussion with a friend who is playing in a tournament tomorrow, and we are pretty sure you can't use a lieutenant's special order to activate a fireteam. That's correct right? I mean seeing as a lt. order is not a regular order.

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Pierzak posted:

See also: every instance of Russian text in the game. Good thing I didn't play Ariadna then or I'd get brain damage from all that facepalming.

Explain?

Pierzak posted:

Anyone know which models contain loose Ariadnan-type rifles? I've got a few Haqq ones but they're of a slightly different design.

I have a bunch of the Ariadna line, still don't have a single loose rifle of theirs. :(

Edit: Speaking of my Ariadna, I really have no idea what paint scheme I should go for. Any suggestions? I usually try to avoid the 'official' schemes, but something close to that would fit my primarily Kazak force. Or something entirely different.

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Pierzak posted:

I really should get off my butt and paint my everything.

I should really get off my butt and paint my anything! I'm still paralysed by not having a clue as to what paint scheme I should go for. Help?

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Even with the square connectors it's kind of a nightmare.

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Flipswitch posted:

Oldie but goldie

I spent a few days just saying the trauma doc line over and over in our club and messaging PsychoticStorm with it.

Is PsychoticStorm still an incomprehensible idiot manchild with a superiority complex?

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Flipswitch posted:

No he's a genuinely nice guy and a good friend.

If you say so. :shrug: Maybe he and I just got off on the wrong foot. I'm open to that possibility.

Corbeau posted:

He's also a moderator over there, which means almost nothing since I've never actually seen the moderation there do anything.

Yes, I noticed. Good for him.


Anyway, something I've noticed a lot of people doing, is using a flash pulse instead of forward observing, which is not the same thing. Flash pulse =/= forward observing, right?

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Flipswitch posted:

Flash Pulse is a medium range weapon that causes blind, really useful for stopping a harder to kill model from rampaging.

Yes I know what it is, thank you

Ilor posted:

That is correct, flash pulse =/= forward observation. One thing that's important is that in the 8"-24" range band, Flash Pulse is +3 whereas FO is +0. I'd have to run the math given the different burst values, but I think there are times when Flash Pulse may be the better bet (and certainly is in ARO, where both have B1). If you're in a situation where you're likely to have to go FtF against someone and you have orders to burn, it might be useful to Flash Pulse them first and try to blind them, because once they are blind they no longer have LoF and you can Forward Observe them to your heart's content without generating an ARO. It's situationally dependent, but has its uses.

Exactly. The thing is, I see time and time again people using flash pulse, and then saying that the flashed targets are forward observed for the purposes of using, say a traktor mul's guided barrage. Flash pulse doesn't convey forward observation.

I was just wondering whether I was wrong or not. Turns out I wasn't. Thanks.

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Every time someone talks about buying a Spetsnaz with HMG I look for it, but it doesn't exist. Please stop suggesting people buy a model that doesn't exist. You're making me sad. I get my hopes up that CB have released it. Every single time.

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Pierzak posted:

Get used to it, combi Aswang is still THE go-to LT model for Shasvastii and since I started playing we haven't gotten a model (we did get a spitfire one though) not a BS LT loadout with N3. :wtc:

Yeah. But maybe don't say buy that specific model that doesn't exist?

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Pierzak posted:

Yeah OK, that one was my bad. Cover for me CB and release the HMG one next month? :haw:

I'm still waiting on my Desperados BTW

All of Ariadna's releases going forward are going to be USARF :negative:

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Laphroaig posted:

Why would I ever go to the main page of the wiki when I just google "infinity wiki smoke" etc :v:

I never thought to do it that way :aaaaa:

I am dumb as a sack of bricks

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Pierzak posted:

95% of people: ":jerkbag: gently caress you CB, we'll use our own sane decks instead"
From what I've heard it doesn't even have an extra card for Secure HVT :wtc:

I have that deck, and it's true

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Ffffffuck the Domaru Butai look cool as hell!

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Where's my goddamn Maghariba resculpt?! Quit holding out on me, CB! :argh:

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So, according to the rumor mill, the Uhlan will be released before Gencon:



:siren: Paging Flipswitch for comment :siren:

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*Plasters the walls with cum*

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:grin:

No but seriously, my other Spetsnaz (Spetznas?) are killing machines, and I need that model. Plus it's cool as hell and the others are fun as hell to paint. I don't mind the recycled pose as much.

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