IceAgeComing posted:

I dunno about you guys; but I'd definitely read "Henrietta Potter and the Mystery of Long Division"!

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Call Back: "Sunshine Recorder" features a child chanting the names of two previous Boards of Canada songs ("An Eagle in Your Mind" and "A Beautiful Place Out in the Country").

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Refrain From Assuming: "Sunshine Recorder" contains the Looped Lyrics "an eagle in your mind... a beautiful place." The band seems to have been deliberately trolling here, because this makes the song very easy to confuse with the previous BOC songs "An Eagle in Your Mind" and "A Beautiful Place Out in the Country."

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Children Are Innocent: A recurring theme often either played straight or averted.

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Fading into the Next Song: "The Beach at Redpoint" into "Opening the Mouth."
"The Devil is in the Details" into "A is to B as B is to C" into "Over the Horizon Radar."
"Ready Lets Go" into "Music is Math."

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Siamese Twin Songs: Lots, due to Boards of Canada albums often being very conceptual and designed to be played in a certain order: "In the Annexe"/"Julie and Candy," "Energy Warning"/"The Beach at Redpoint," "The Devil is in the Details"/"A is to B as B is to C/"Over the Horizon Radar."

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Shout Out: The group name is a reference to the National Film Board Of Canada. Their titles and samples can be pretty heavy on this as well:

[a bunch of shout-outs]

"Roygbiv" is a famous mnemonic used to remember the order of colours in a rainbow.

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Teen Genius: Considering the fact that Mike was born in 1971 and Marcus in 1973, they technically started Boards of Canada when they were still teenagers, like their Warp labelmate Aphex Twin. (And much like Aphex, it took them a while to find their trademark style.)

Striking Yak posted:

Ah yes, obviously a reference to Some Anime.

AlbieQuirky posted:

What does "nakama" actually mean? Google was so littered with crap that it left me more confused.

fulltime D posted:

In the tradtion of A Clockwork Orange...

Of the novel I been writin' lateful, my task be to represent the evolution of new dialects by includin' them (symbolicful, as in not representin' real extrapolations of changin' linguistics) in different variations to be spoken by the characters.

The main dialect be how the main character speaks, besince he be 'bout 40, 000 standards old, and been all over the galaxy in his time, pickin' up diff'rent ways of talkin' from diff'rent sources, so he got a kinda hybrid dialect, spoken by him and his son.

Other characters got other dialects which I be workin' on at this time. Haft you got an idea or more, I'd like to make a thread for creatin', and learnin' to fathom alternate dialects.

This post been written in the main character's dialect, and you ain't seen the full of it becourse, besince not all needs to be said in such a post, and I got the full breadth of it in the book I be writin'; there be others in the book, spoken by characters hailin' from diff'rent colonies. They ain't all be so western-soundin' as be this (though my intent was to combine a pseudo-western drawl with street language). Becourse, thousands of diff'rent planets means hundreds of thousands of streets, each with their own dialect.

Make a note of diff'rent planets holdin' to diff'rent tech levels and levels of social development, which be bound to influence language. For 'xample, two sisters who be from a highful cosmopolitan, urban world use slang derived from computer and internet technology, 'specialful from social networkin', thenst mixed with slang they pick up from travelin' more of the galaxy thanst most humans, who spend their lives on a single planet or moon, usualful the world of their birth.

ZI Ltoid 1991 posted:

I'm actually a fan of the genre I going to deconstruct (shounen, with some elements from western superhero comics), and I think those people make the best deconstructions who're actually the fans of the genre.

I think everybody should follow these rules:

• Threat the genre or tropes with respect! Without this, your work can become an insult towards the genre instead a deconstruction. While if you (for exmple) deconstruct traditional gender roles, you don't have to be a fan of "Kinder, Kirche, Küche".
• Deconstruction doesn't equals downplaying. Eg. if you deconstruct The Ace, it doesn't mean, that your characer only can has a limited aceness, but instead you can make him/her a regular Broken Ace, who barely sleeps because he/she needs constant practice. As you mentioned the Watchmen, Superpower Lottery boty exaggregated and deconstructed in this story.
• Deconstruction doesn't equals subverting. It's not possible that you can do both things to a trope, or subvert an overused trope in the genre.
• If a deconstruction alreadily exist, that doesn't mean that 1. you can't deconstruct it again, 2. you can't show it differently. Deconstruction of the mecha genre doesn't started with Neon Genesis Evangelion, not even with Gundam or Matzinger Z. Also the said genre has at least three different reconstructions (GaoGaiGar, Gurren Lagann, RahXephon).
• You not only can deconstruct tropes, genres, but also political ideologies, etc. Satires are basically deconstructions. But well, if you deconstruct eg. nazism that can lead to Unfortunate Implications: if you humanize your nazis too much, people who didn't read the whole thing can misunderstand your work as a nazi propaganda because they didn't read the part where the protagonist realised the horrors of a geonicide and the dictatorship.

DStecks posted:

Is anybody here actually prepared to explain what the original definition of deconstruction is?

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

TV Tropes can be summed up in four words: cargo cult media criticism.

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We are also not a wiki for bashing things. Once again, we're about celebrating fiction, not showing off how snide and sarcastic we can be.

DStecks posted:

None of this changes the fact that the tvtropes sense of deconstruction is still a useful descriptor for a work of fiction, going by their original definition of "a work that explores how the typical cliches of a genre or work would play out with a higher degree of reality imposed upon them", or in short, "in real life this wouldn't work at all".

It isn't deconstruction in the Derrida sense, but that doesn't mean that tvtropes deconstruction isn't a real thing in media.

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

Morven is the good one, actually. I'm not sure whether he's on TVT still or not, though. Usually people got banned the instant we mentioned we like them, but Morven was a mod so maybe that was protection against the goon purges.

Venusian Weasel posted:

Tropers, it seems, aren't really comfortable with language, even if it's their own. The words of the trope make sense when applied here, but when I went to the trope page, I got the distinct feeling that the trope describes something completely different. Or maybe it isn't. The concept is so poorly worded I guess it can mean anything! Not a good thing when you're writing a dictionary of tropes!

HEGEL CURES THESES posted:

Edit: That thread was a single page long, and I didn't see very much "flailing." Did she delete a lot of stuff?

Asgerd posted:

When it comes to "Nightmare Fuel", nothing will ever top this page.

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•From the Comic-con preview, Twilight witnessing Luna's breakdown and transformation into Nightmare Moon.
◦During that breakdown, Luna ends up smashing a stone arch and screaming "There can only be one princess in Equestria! And that princess will be ME!!!"
◦Not to mention how she FREAKING LAUGHS when she turned into Nightmare Moon!!
◦The threatening eclipse that happens in the background. Nightmare Moon isn't horsing around.

Bear Sleuth posted:

The only thing more scary than gloomy music is happy music.

Asgerd posted:

Of course not, the fanfic in question is so prolific it has a page of its own!

Apple Tree posted:

Even a troper would have a hard time equivocating a man molesting a nine-year-old. (Please tell me this is true.)

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Since Lolita didn't have an Analysis page, I have to wonder: what does? Let's have a look.

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The Accidental Pornomancer trope was much more prominent in older societies, which had different laws and opinions about sex and "rape".

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Fanfic: Kyon: Big drat Hero
Fanservice, Beam Sabres, Stable Time Loops, and the Unsubtle Harem Plot.
"Count the tropes! Save, collect, trade for swell prizes!"
Kyon: Big drat Hero is the result of creating a crossover between Haruhi Suzumiya and TV Tropes.

DaveWoo posted:

Joss Whedon, Dr. Who, and anime. It's like their Holy Trinity.

COBRARocky posted:

http://web.archive.org/web/20110226124822/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/BrilliantButLazy

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This troper is a complete social outcast with self esteem issues who is of somewhat above average intelligence. This intelligence is his only remotely notable positive trait and so he uses it to completely define his sense of identity and self worth, but is too afraid to ever put his theoretical genius to the test and apply himself due to the subconscious knowledge that if he does so he will quickly find himself to be not as smart as he's built himself up to be and therefore have an extreme identity crisis.

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•This troper's mother tells him he is this on a regular basis. I admit to being slightly lazy, but not this at all. This is due to the fact that in eighth grade, my grades dropped to a straight C average because I DID take the time off to be lazy (I still consider large parts of that time as good times) and I have trouble with honors classes. After this, I got almost entirely As (a couple of Bs and one C) the next year. Still nothing because of that one C. This year, I am in one honors and one AP class and am fighting epic struggles with doing all my work for both (I usually get around five hours of sleep a night) but still getting Cs, which I always get in honors classes. My mother still believes I can succeed if I try hard enough, and mentions the example of my neighbor, who is in both and succeeding, and everyone including his mother says I'm smarter (I call bullshit on that one, because I know the guy and he is smart) Due to my refusal to believe this and the fact that instead of blindly accepting, I argue, I've switched from being The Favorite to The Unfavorite in a couple of years (I harbor no bitterness as that just shows the positions are meaningless) Due to the fact that my mother does most of the talking at my annual checkups, my PHYSICIAN is now joining in on the act, telling me to get it together and I can still succeed. I used to like him, but after listening to him and my mother kvetch about me together, I'm slightly irritated to say the least.
◦So, you're getting C's on AP courses and have enough trouble with the work that you can only get five hours of sleep, yet you call yourself "brilliant?" And of course you're not bitter, why else would you be bitching about how you're mommy doesn't wuv you any more because your grades are slipping?
◦This troper thinks that the above troper is quite mean, and that the aboveabove troper deserves a cookie, and a full nights sleep.
◦Yeah, I think OP is more saying people THINK he's the trope, but he isn't really and so wishes they'd stop banging on about it. That's what it sounds like to me, anyway.
▪Ah. That makes more sense, then. I feel a bit guilty about what I wrote above if that is the case, and you should indeed get a good nights sleep and a few cookies. I will, however, leave it up as commentary to 'other' people who legitimately mistake above-average workloads for genius. Get some sleep.
◦I second that well-reasoned motion and note the poor lad's remarkable resemblance to myself in years gone by. Give the wee lad a cookie.

COBRARocky posted:

This loving hat.

What is it about this loving hat.

Adnachiel posted:

Speaking of unneeded fanfic pages...

DaveWoo posted:

So the latest Penny Arcade comic takes a (very mild) jab at fantasy author Brandon Sanderson.

Tropers were not amused:

Asgerd posted:

And of course:

Arcsquad12 posted:

I want this book to become a massive bestseller hit, alongside such timeless classics as the Inheritance Cycle.

Flesnolk posted:

50 Shades made it, so I guess anything can happen in the current publishing market.

Smoking Crow posted:

I kind of want him to finish writing it and get it published just to see what the general public thinks of it.

Flesnolk posted:

People will read any loving thing these days.

DaveWoo posted:

My favorite Troper would have to be Jabrosky. I love how everything he writes is specifically tailored to his fetish.

Saint Drogo posted:

The content violations thread (aka The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering, aka Why the gently caress Does This Need to Exist?) is usually worth a look.


Yeah, tough call, man.

JackMackerel posted:

So, that Nate Spidgewood guy (apparently he got banned for arguing a lot way back when SA noticed TV Tropes, and kept coming back for more and more? He also does really lovely comics) got desperate enough to go ask a hacking forum to invade TV Tropes for him, and even tried to crowdfund a hacker 200 bucks just to do it. (Since archive.org is acting weird, go put in http://www.gofundme.com/49e1k8 in your Google searchbar and access the cache.)

Lottery of Babylon posted:

We are an artists

crowfeathers posted:

Then he posted his idea in more detail:


Jesus Christ

VirtualStranger posted:

ArchangeI posted:

Say what you will about it but at least it is a self-insert that isn't blatant wish fulfillment. The character sounds pretty interesting to me, and it is somewhat telling that he hasn't used trope names once. I wonder if those two are connected.

Probably one of the better troper projects.

WoodrowSkillson posted:

refrences to deities that are never explained, poems in a language the reader cannot understand

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"Worldbuilding"

Asgerd posted:

Didn't a past contest spawn that weird knife-porn story?

Ugly In The Morning posted:

They have...lovingly cataloged every instance they could find of a dead character voiding their bowels at death. They've written more about poopin' dead bodies than, say, most literature.

Jesus christ, tropers. What the gently caress is the matter with you? What's wrong with your brains? I'm sitting here, realizing that someone actually spent time thinking of these words, and then typing them. Just chillin' online, writing up examples of dead people crapping for TVTropes, talk about a fun friday night.


Very likely not okay for work/faith in humanity.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoDeadBodyPoops

I'd post some quotes, but I really don't want to.

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Leina wets herself twice in the first episode of Queen's Blade. The second is a Bring My Brown Pants moment, but the first is this trope as she wets herself due to being strangled by Melona.

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Originally a series of one-on-one combat gamebooks based on Lost Worlds. Lost Worlds let two players duel by exchanging books that represented different characters, with illustrations representing each action you could take. In 2005, Hobby Japan released a remake of the series, but instead of generic fantasy monsters, the characters of Queen's Blade were all women designed with a more ecchi slant. And thus the Fanservice began.

The story is as follows. Every four years, there is a tournament to decide who will be the next queen of the land. The rules are extremely simple: as long as the contestant is over twelve years old, the last one standing wins.

crowfeathers posted:

Assuming enough people can stand having their minds destroyed by troper fiction, having a vote would... be suitable.

Apple Tree posted:

Wow. That's one darkly brilliant comic. Is there any more of it? If so, where can I find it?