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Obscurity posted:So since coming back yesterday after quitting in 2.0.. I got my halloween stuff done, unlocked all the hard mode dungeons, started the Hildibrand quests, started continuing the main storyline, unlocked Ixali dailies, gained desynthesis, hunt access, aesthetitican access, and glamour access. There is not really a reason to not participate in hunts. It's the fastest and lowest effort way to jump up to i90 (now I guess it will be i100/110).
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On the topic of DoT damage: I know DoTs can crit, but is it based off of the initial hit? IE, if the ability which applies the DoT (let’s say Chaos Thrust) crits, will all the rest of the damage be a crit? Or are DoT crits re-rolled on every tic of the damage?
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Oct 27, 2014 20:50
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CodfishCartographer posted:On the topic of DoT damage: I know DoTs can crit, but is it based off of the initial hit? IE, if the ability which applies the DoT (let’s say Chaos Thrust) crits, will all the rest of the damage be a crit? Or are DoT crits re-rolled on every tic of the damage? no, use your lifesurges on full thrusts.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:52
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Obscurity posted:So since coming back yesterday after quitting in 2.0.. I got my halloween stuff done, unlocked all the hard mode dungeons, started the Hildibrand quests, started continuing the main storyline, unlocked Ixali dailies, gained desynthesis, hunt access, aesthetitican access, and glamour access. You should do any hunts you can always.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:54
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Sacro posted:Oh okay I must have imagined all those sperg posts in this thread. KaneTW posted:Hi please provide examples. Hard mode: belzac doesn't count. KaneTW posted:gently caress off to Facebook casual games. its ok i still believe in you senpai~
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Obscurity posted:Also..I only have 130k..not sure where to start with gaining gil. I have WVR/CRP/GSM/CUL at 50 and the rest at 15-30~ for skills. I have full AF for the 50s (basically aside from materia, I was geared to max for 2.0 crafting). If you need a bit of seed money, here's a tip I got from this thread. One of the post-2.0 main quests gives a selection of red level 4 materia. When you get that quest, check which of the three goes for the most on the market board (it was Savage Might IV in my case), take that one as the quest reward, and auction it off. I got half a million gil that way, which gave me enough to buy a free company room with cash left over. I'm certain doing that would help you get the materials or gear you need to start making more money with crafting. Not that I'm anywhere near maxing crafting out, I'm still at the "get CUL to 37" stage. Also, at least in the last patch, doing hunts for a few days could give you enough allied seals to buy all of the i90 Myth gear, which combined with the Zenith relic brings your iLvl to an even 90. I'm not sure how that's changing in 2.4 though.
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drink slurm posted:no, use your lifesurges on full thrusts. Also keep this in mind for ninja and don't use kassatsu on dot jutsus
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CodfishCartographer posted:On the topic of DoT damage: I know DoTs can crit, but is it based off of the initial hit? IE, if the ability which applies the DoT (let’s say Chaos Thrust) crits, will all the rest of the damage be a crit? Or are DoT crits re-rolled on every tic of the damage? They're rolled on every tick of damage but your buffs on application affect it through the entirety of the dot duration, regardless of the buff duration.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:55
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Doublestep posted:Also keep this in mind for ninja and don't use kassatsu on dot jutsus it's really really cute that you still think fenra is letting you play ninja.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:58
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bonewitch posted:They're rolled on every tick of damage but your buffs on application affect it through the entirety of the dot duration, regardless of the buff duration. So if you have the option always make sure you have inner release or any other crit chance increasing buff up whenever you apply your dots.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:01
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Bad Paladins are a dime a dozen. I tend to find myself main tanking in Sword Oath against roughly equally geared Paladins in Shield Oath. They made Paladin really simple to hold hate against single targets, but I guess a lot of players don't use the main combo or something? wisdomHNOX posted:There is not really a reason to not participate in hunts. It's the fastest and lowest effort way to jump up to i90 (now I guess it will be i100/110). It was a convenient way to get soldiery before too, while not the best. I ended up accidentally capping on it quite a few times, so I reckon it'd be a fairly decent way to get Poetics while trying to get the cool glamour.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:03
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PLDs also don't have any long-range threat generation except for provoke. If something gets away from a PLD for whatever reason and Provoke isn't up, they have to chase after it. At least warriors can X-class Second Wind and generate a modest amount of healing threat at practically infinite range so the mob doesn't even have to be in Tomahawk range.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:12
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wisdomHNOX posted:Even if this is true Phlebotomize and Chaos Thrust both have front loaded damge in addition to the DoT that is improved by having Disembowel up. Also putting off Phlebotomize until after your CT combo lets refreshing your various abilities line up better in my experience. Doing heavy thrust and phlebotomize together is a very negligible dps loss. Do whatever feels right for you unless you care super hard about a difference of less than 1% dps. Which isn't unreasonable
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Oct 27, 2014 21:14
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dangersandwich posted:PLDs also don't have any long-range threat generation except for provoke. If something gets away from a PLD for whatever reason and Provoke isn't up, they have to chase after it. At least warriors can X-class Second Wind and generate a modest amount of healing threat at practically infinite range so the mob doesn't even have to be in Tomahawk range. lol
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Oct 27, 2014 21:17
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dangersandwich posted:PLDs also don't have any long-range threat generation except for provoke. If something gets away from a PLD for whatever reason and Provoke isn't up, they have to chase after it. At least warriors can X-class Second Wind and generate a modest amount of healing threat at practically infinite range so the mob doesn't even have to be in Tomahawk range. j4g stop
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Oct 27, 2014 21:21
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More DRG chat: should I use Fracture as a cross-class skill? Where does it fit into a standard rotation? If not, what all cross-class skills should I be using? I’ve got Internal Release, Mercy Stroke, Bloodbath, Second Wind, and Foresight. But really the last three are just kinda there in the event I take some damage / aggro and wanna make things moderately easier on our healer. I very rarely ever even wind up using Foresight, but don’t really know what to replace it with.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:21
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dangersandwich posted:PLDs also don't have any long-range threat generation except for provoke. If something gets away from a PLD for whatever reason and Provoke isn't up, they have to chase after it. At least warriors can X-class Second Wind and generate a modest amount of healing threat at practically infinite range so the mob doesn't even have to be in Tomahawk range. Are we not counting Shield Lob as a ranged ability for this assumption or something?
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Oct 27, 2014 21:23
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dangersandwich posted:At least warriors can X-class Second Wind and generate a modest amount of healing threat at practically infinite range Thank god paladin has five dumpster abilities that do the exact same thing, and works in fights with adds, so if this ever became a real issue that anyone has ever faced ever in the game we might be okay. I imagine that since he specifically mentioned things that work "outside of tomahawk range" he knows about shield lob and thinks Second Wind is somehow good or something.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:23
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Hahah I love this thread sometimes. Really good pld advice today.
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CodfishCartographer posted:More DRG chat: should I use Fracture as a cross-class skill? Where does it fit into a standard rotation? If not, what all cross-class skills should I be using? I’ve got Internal Release, Mercy Stroke, Bloodbath, Second Wind, and Foresight. But really the last three are just kinda there in the event I take some damage / aggro and wanna make things moderately easier on our healer. I very rarely ever even wind up using Foresight, but don’t really know what to replace it with. The only cross class skills you'll use with any regularity are inner release and mercy stroke. Fracture has very niche uses but until you have sub 2.2 GCD it is a net DPS loss as a part of a main rotation. Foresight, bloodbath, second wind, and feather foot all are just situational and rarely used. Bloodbath and second wind are handy at helping your healer a bit.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:25
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Hang on guys, I'll grab that mob back in a jiffy. *spams cure on self*
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CodfishCartographer posted:More DRG chat: should I use Fracture as a cross-class skill? Where does it fit into a standard rotation? If not, what all cross-class skills should I be using? I’ve got Internal Release, Mercy Stroke, Bloodbath, Second Wind, and Foresight. But really the last three are just kinda there in the event I take some damage / aggro and wanna make things moderately easier on our healer. I very rarely ever even wind up using Foresight, but don’t really know what to replace it with. Fracture is a very polarizing skill in this thread. It's not bad but isn't always good either.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:27
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dangersandwich posted:PLDs also don't have any long-range threat generation except for provoke. If something gets away from a PLD for whatever reason and Provoke isn't up, they have to chase after it. At least warriors can X-class Second Wind and generate a modest amount of healing threat at practically infinite range so the mob doesn't even have to be in Tomahawk range. 
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Oct 27, 2014 21:30
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I'm glad for MRD low level roulettes I can just bind Overpower and go about my life.
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speaking of cross-class, what are everyones opinions on the 5 cross-class skills to use on NIN? Internal Release, Blood for Blood and Invigorate are obvious choices, but how about the last two? Mantra+Second Wind? Keen Flurry+Featherfoot? or some other mix?
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Oct 27, 2014 21:32
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What's the proper way for determining the overall potency of a DOT skill? Divide the duration by 3 and multiply by the tick potency?
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Happy Blue Cow posted:speaking of cross-class, what are everyones opinions on the 5 cross-class skills to use on NIN? Maybe wait for people to actually play a NIN?
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This thread is also really bad at realizing different use cases and thinking outside the box. Yes I'm talking about outside of Shield Lob/Tomahawk range. When was the last time a miserable Shield Lob/Tomahawk regained threat after your BLM crit Flared and stole it from you? When has it ever been able to reach across the arena, e.g. for Spiny Plume? (never)Velthice posted:Hang on guys, I'll grab that mob back in a jiffy. *spams cure on self* I know you're being facetious but Second Wind is instant cast. Provoke -> Second Wind gains you enough hate to prevent whatever it is from immediately running back to not-the-tank. dangersandwich fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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nuru posted:I'm glad for MRD low level roulettes I can just bind Overpower and go about my life. There seem to be very few instances where you can't do this, regardless of level. Get flash and use it as a GCD filler to let your TP recharge and put on Netflix.
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Happy Blue Cow posted:speaking of cross-class, what are everyones opinions on the 5 cross-class skills to use on NIN? If "Perfect Dodge" actually counts as evading an attack, I could see Haymaker being a possibility for when you nab aggro.
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dichloroisocyanuric posted:There seem to be very few instances where you can't do this, regardless of level. Get flash and use it as a GCD filler to let your TP recharge and put on Netflix. Good point. I stopped using flash very early because I had what appeared to be absolutely no mana regen in combat as a MRD, but that would get me a few casts per pull now.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:36
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yoshi help please turn on the servers so the dumbs stop posting again
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Happy Blue Cow posted:speaking of cross-class, what are everyones opinions on the 5 cross-class skills to use on NIN? Fracture and Feint.
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Since ninjas exist to give monks more damage I'd assume they want featherfoot and keen flurry to keep themselves alive long enough to be useful to the monk.
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Impulse Drive is going to be the number one cross-class skill.
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Rogue starting primer: Maintain Straight Shot and use Impulse Drive behind if you can, otherwise Spinning Blades. Once you have Gust, stop using Impulse Drive.
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dangersandwich posted:This thread is also really bad at realizing different use cases and thinking outside the box. Yes I'm talking about outside of Shield Lob/Tomahawk range. When was the last time a miserable Shield Lob/Tomahawk regained threat after your BLM crit Flared and stole it from you? When has it ever been able to reach across the arena, e.g. for Spiny Plume? (never) I don't think tanking is for you, friend.
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Virulence posted:Impulse Drive is going to be the number one cross-class skill. I still love how optimal DPS for low level melee is 90% this skill 
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Happy Blue Cow posted:speaking of cross-class, what are everyones opinions on the 5 cross-class skills to use on NIN? What classes / levels are these all gained? I'm a bad.
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