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Adulterous Hitler posted:The way this thread went from 4000 poor Nepalese workers dying from horrid work conditions to loving opening ceremonies of the US Olympic games tells me that a) nobody really cares b) the qatar wc will be a big success in the winter of 2022 and c) death to america Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Sep 29, 2013 |
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The only thing that would help any would a massive campaign shaming and boycotting FIFAs "brand partners" to the point where it began to cost them money. The world cup is a big lovely corporate jerkoff fest like the Olympics and its bad in my opinion.
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Sep 29, 2013 04:20
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vaginal culture posted:The only thing that would help any would a massive campaign shaming and boycotting FIFAs "brand partners" to the point where it began to cost them money. The world cup is a big lovely corporate jerkoff fest like the Olympics and its bad in my opinion.
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Sep 29, 2013 04:22
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What fascinates me the most is the effort they put in to get the tournament. Why do they want it so much? How could it possibly be worth that much to them?
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Sep 29, 2013 08:09
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Do you suspect some sort of criminal plot?
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Sep 29, 2013 08:13
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julian assflange posted:What fascinates me the most is the effort they put in to get the tournament. Why do they want it so much? How could it possibly be worth that much to them? It's part of a powerful Renaissance mentality in the GCC right now. Qatar is the world's largest buyer in modern art, they're buying up high-end property in London, New York and other Euro cities. They spent tens of millions on the 2020 Olympic bid. It's summed up in part in the Qatar National Vision 2030, which talks about transforming from a carbon economy into a knowledge economy, which is what Qatar Foundation was created to achieve. Qatar in the 50s was a nation of 40,000 living in houses made of clay and coral. Today it's close to 2m with LED skyscrapers and gold plated Maybachs. It's a golden dawn thousand year legacy mindset, not just a World Cup.
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corpuscollossus posted:It's part of a powerful Renaissance mentality in the GCC right now. Qatar is the world's largest buyer in modern art, they're buying up high-end property in London, New York and other Euro cities. They spent tens of millions on the 2020 Olympic bid. It's summed up in part in the Qatar National Vision 2030, which talks about transforming from a carbon economy into a knowledge economy, which is what Qatar Foundation was created to achieve. Qatar in the 50s was a nation of 40,000 living in houses made of clay and coral. Today it's close to 2m with LED skyscrapers and gold plated Maybachs. Instead of cargo culting their way into becoming a giant tacky shopping mall of a country they should just move somewhere actually nice in my opinion. We are witnessing the brutality that is materialism.
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Sep 29, 2013 08:49
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In terms of money, stadia, ability not to kill footballers during a summer tournament and it being an emerging market who've not hosted it before, the following probably get on the list: China, India, Canada, Australia, Indonesia, Turkey, Holland and Iran.
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Sep 29, 2013 11:16
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Bacon of the Sea posted:In terms of money, stadia, ability not to kill footballers during a summer tournament and it being an emerging market who've not hosted it before, the following probably get on the list: A world cup in India would be the most beautifully unorganized mess ever OP
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Sep 29, 2013 11:58
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vaginal culture posted:The only thing that would help any would a massive campaign shaming and boycotting FIFAs "brand partners" to the point where it began to cost them money. The world cup is a big lovely corporate jerkoff fest like the Olympics and its bad in my opinion. This is fair but there are so many of the fuckers that unless you carry around a comedy scroll with all the names on you're going to end up buying one of their products eventually.
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Sep 29, 2013 12:22
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Australia has the stadiums, transport infrastructure and climate to make a mid year world cup awesome. The only thing Australia doesn't have is a government willing to suspend taxation law and the constitution.
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Sep 29, 2013 12:23
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What's this suspension of the constitution thing? Does this really happen?
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Sep 29, 2013 12:40
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mrg220t posted:What's this suspension of the constitution thing? Does this really happen? Qatar will have to suspend parts of their constitution (they're a sharia country afterall). They also have to set up some economic freezones I think
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Sep 29, 2013 12:44
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Byolante posted:Australia has the stadiums, transport infrastructure and climate to make a mid year world cup awesome. The only thing Australia doesn't have is a government willing to suspend taxation law and the constitution. I think a number of black players would be uncomfortable being forced to play in Australia due to the dangers of a racist attack
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Sep 29, 2013 13:19
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angered paedophile posted:I think a number of black players would be uncomfortable being forced to play in Australia due to the dangers of a racist attack You're thinking of Lebanese players, who aren't going to make it to a World Cup anyway We don't have enough blacks here to know how to do a racism against them
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Sep 29, 2013 14:04
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NinjaSteve posted:You're thinking of Lebanese players, who aren't going to make it to a World Cup anyway Well that's because you kill them all.
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Sep 29, 2013 14:06
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NinjaSteve posted:You're thinking of Lebanese players, who aren't going to make it to a World Cup anyway They're not getting the women's world cup as well are they?
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Sep 29, 2013 14:16
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Australia is going to hold the Asian Cup in 2015 which I think will prove that we have the infrastructure and ability to hold a World Cup. We don't have the willingness to pay for one though.
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Bacon of the Sea posted:In terms of money, stadia, ability not to kill footballers during a summer tournament and it being an emerging market who've not hosted it before, the following probably get on the list: Not sure we have the stadia here in Canada, most of our existing football stadiums (or multipurpose ones) only seat 20-30,000 people, and we have a government that's trying to impose austerity rather than big infrastructure projects. Also we have the same issue as America in that all the host cities would be really far apart, only we have even worse infrastructure in many ways. We're good at hosting smaller (in terms of scale, not viewership) events like Olympics and Commonwealth Games, because you can just stay in one city the whole time and that city will commit to building infrastructure, rather than having to try and organize a gong show on a national scale. Also I don't think Holland counts as an emerging market for football.
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NinjaSteve posted:Australia is going to hold the Asian Cup in 2015 which I think will prove that we have the infrastructure and ability to hold a World Cup. We don't have the willingness to pay for one though. Qatar hosted the 2011 Asian Cup, which I think proved that they had the infrastructure and ability to hold a World Cup...as long as only 12,000 people show up for games. They even held it in the Winter. 
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Bacon of the Sea posted:In terms of money, stadia, ability not to kill footballers during a summer tournament and it being an emerging market who've not hosted it before, the following probably get on the list: India would be a disaster. Wasn't there a lot of bullshit when they hosted the Commonwealth Games?
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Peanut President posted:India would be a disaster. Wasn't there a lot of bullshit when they hosted the Commonwealth Games? Yes, and human poo poo, dog poo poo, lots of kinds of poo poo in fact.
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Sep 29, 2013 21:47
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Peanut President posted:India would be a disaster. Wasn't there a lot of bullshit when they hosted the Commonwealth Games? It really seemed to be a rather usual 'Asian's style of managing a sporting event, events being "sold out" with empty stadiums and what have you.
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oldman posted:It really seemed to be a rather usual 'Asian's style of managing a sporting event, events being "sold out" with empty stadiums and what have you. Also 40% of the staff they hired failing to turn up and just running off with the kit they'd been given.
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My favourite picture from the commonwealth games was when the fancy dan British team turned up and complained their rooms looked like this and there were feral dogs sleeping on their beds
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Defending Qatar this month – European Club Association head Karl Heinz-Rummenigge: "After visiting Qatar for our last general assembly we had a good feeling about a World Cup there." Also last week: German tax authorities fine Rummenigge a reported €250,000 for failing to declare two Rolexes received as gifts during the trip.
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Sep 30, 2013 14:00
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Crazy Ted posted:Defending Qatar this month – European Club Association head Karl Heinz-Rummenigge: "After visiting Qatar for our last general assembly we had a good feeling about a World Cup there." Also last week: German tax authorities fine Rummenigge a reported €250,000 for failing to declare two Rolexes received as gifts during the trip. this is becoming a parody of itself
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Sep 30, 2013 14:02
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Crazy Ted posted:Defending Qatar this month – European Club Association head Karl Heinz-Rummenigge: "After visiting Qatar for our last general assembly we had a good feeling about a World Cup there." Also last week: German tax authorities fine Rummenigge a reported €250,000 for failing to declare two Rolexes received as gifts during the trip. Sounds like that whore got Rummenigged
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Modus Trollens posted:this is becoming a parody of itself Speaking of... quote:What, you didn’t know that FIFA owns a restaurant? True thing.
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Crazy Ted posted:Defending Qatar this month – European Club Association head Karl Heinz-Rummenigge: "After visiting Qatar for our last general assembly we had a good feeling about a World Cup there." Also last week: German tax authorities fine Rummenigge a reported €250,000 for failing to declare two Rolexes received as gifts during the trip. This can't be loving real e: loving hell it is http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2436952/Karl-Heinz-Rummenigge-receives-Rolex-watches-worth-84-000-trip-Qatar.html
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Sep 30, 2013 16:23
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Hegav posted:This can't be loving real With FIFA, assume the worst and you'll probably find you were close to the truth, possibly a bit optimistic.
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Sep 30, 2013 16:27
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FIFA lives in that peculiar space with only the ongoing phone hacking scandal as a friend in the 'even Alex Jones was underestimating how big a conspiracy this is' zone.
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Sep 30, 2013 16:33
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Byolante posted:FIFA lives in that peculiar space with only the ongoing phone hacking scandal as a friend in the 'even Alex Jones was underestimating how big a conspiracy this is' zone.
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Out of curiosity, is this the ugliest and most outwardly corrupt FIFA has ever gotten? Because I'm still new at this, but it sure seems like it. Surely the backlash from this will cause some serious reform! ...Right?
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MisterBadIdea posted:Out of curiosity, is this the ugliest and most outwardly corrupt FIFA has ever gotten? Because I'm still new at this, but it sure seems like it. Surely the backlash from this will cause some serious reform! Nah, they gave the election to a dictatorship a few decades ago and just tried to whistle along as people got murdered. And Blatter was proven to be taken bribes a while back, it required that an independent committee be set up to clean FIFA up. They lasted six months, all resigned saying it was totally impossible, Blatter declared this to mean that FIFA could not get any cleaner.
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Crazy Ted posted:Defending Qatar this month – European Club Association head Karl Heinz-Rummenigge: "After visiting Qatar for our last general assembly we had a good feeling about a World Cup there." Also last week: German tax authorities fine Rummenigge a reported €250,000 for failing to declare two Rolexes received as gifts during the trip. Rummenigge is a goddamn moronic oval office and I hate him so much. Crazy Ted posted:Speaking of... This is Zurich were talking about, one of if not the most expensive city in the world. Above average prices for people living there, horribly expensive for everybody else. ephex fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Sep 30, 2013 |
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Sep 30, 2013 19:22
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Pissflaps posted:They're not getting the women's world cup as well are they? Canada's hosting the WWC in 2015, don't think they've announced the next.
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This was interesting read, not least because the idea of a FIFA ethics committee is the most farcical thing I've heard in a while. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/01/fifa-ethics-world-cup-2018-2022-investigation There's a few interesting things to take from that article. Like Australia trying to recoup their bid money. The 'ethics' head will be doing his own investigation, which I'm sure will have interesting results (I know it looked bad, but we did nothing wrong, we promise). Perhaps most interestingly, it looks like France Football will be releasing a further in-depth expose of the situation on Tuesday (today or next week I'm not sure). So someone post that if they can find it.
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Cuban Chowder Factory posted:Rust Belt World Cup please. Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Buffalo. A real slice of America for all these foreign fuckers. I support this. Cross out Buffalo and go with Rochester. Check out this article from over a year ago that agrees with me.
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In response to the allegations, UEFA president Michael Platini says, "HURR LOOK AT ME I'M SEPP BLATTER I DIDN'T KNOW BRIBES WERE HAPPENING DERPY DOO loving duh, everyone, how is this news" (I'm paraphrasing) http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/20/michel-platini-politics-qatar-2022-world-cup
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