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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
United Passions-rear end football game

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Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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vyelkin posted:

United Passions-rear end football game

Player-card unlocks but every card is just Sepp Blatter.

advanced statsman
Dec 26, 2012

ISLAM FC

vyelkin posted:

United Passions-rear end football game

Sick filth

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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So, are EA able to just pay for rights to the Premier league, Bundesliga, Serie A & La Liga?
Teams & players?

What do FIFA have exclusive use of for their game?

xK1
Dec 1, 2003


wooger posted:

So, are EA able to just pay for rights to the Premier league, Bundesliga, Serie A & La Liga?
Teams & players?

What do FIFA have exclusive use of for their game?

I'm pretty sure they were already having to pay the leagues for rights, I think FIFA just gets the name and the World Cup.

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Aug 6, 2013


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xK1 posted:

I'm pretty sure they were already having to pay the leagues for rights, I think FIFA just gets the name and the World Cup.

Ya EA is going to sell a game called "Ultimate Soccer/Football 2024" or something and will put Messi on the cover and make nearly as much as they made with the FIFA name. EA still has the contract with the players' unions and the leagues.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

Pretty late here but if they’re a completely separate company these days how come they’ve inherited the broadcast contract???

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Pook Good Mook posted:

Ya EA is going to sell a game called "Ultimate Soccer/Football 2024" or something and will put Messi on the cover and make nearly as much as they made with the FIFA name. EA still has the contract with the players' unions and the leagues.

EA will make EA FC 2024 and it'll be the identical same game we all love to hate with all the licensing rights and FIFA will make janky trash where you play as the Merseyside Reds and can accelerate to infinite speed as long as you're running backwards

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005

There are also instances where teams themselves have some exclusive use of their rights outside of whatever their FA has control over. FIFA 23 is missing a few Italian teams (Roma and Napoli, for example); instead, they're replaced by generic names like Naples FC which have all the Napoli players and colors but a different logo and generic stadium.

Basically, poo poo's complicated. But good luck to FIFA on their basically International-only football simulator, I guess.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

wooger posted:

What do FIFA have exclusive use of for their game?
The "FIFA" and "World Cup" names and logos and such, as I understand it.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
FIFA owns the trademark for words "Brazil", "Germany" and "Italy". EA has to use generic names for those countries. They also have to use "umpires" instead of "referees".

Jean-Paul Shartre
Jan 16, 2015

this sentence no verb


Kennel posted:

FIFA owns the trademark for words "Brazil", "Germany" and "Italy". EA has to use generic names for those countries. They also have to use "umpires" instead of "referees".

Forza stivali!

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Can they skirt it by using brasil, allemagne and italie in languages that spell them differently?

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

wooger posted:

So, are EA able to just pay for rights to the Premier league, Bundesliga, Serie A & La Liga?
Teams & players?

What do FIFA have exclusive use of for their game?

Yes. All FIFA were licensing was FIFA, the World Cup and its logos/stadium interior graphics, and maybe the Club World Cup. But that’s it.

But everything else - even the international teams in the game - are all separate and will stay the same in EA Sports’ next game. This means if you want to play as a Premier League team against a La Liga team online in a Champions League final, you still can, just in EA FC and not something called FIFA.

Watch Infantino go take the license to Konami and see the few Winning Eleven diehards left consider jumping off bridges.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
FIFA is not making a video game. Maybe some kind of mobile shovelware, but not something that would compete with major sports titles.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Mechafunkzilla posted:

FIFA is not making a video game. Maybe some kind of mobile shovelware, but not something that would compete with major sports titles.

No, go check what Infantino said. They’re absolutely making the best game!

It’s going to be a clusterfuck and I’m here to watch from the sidelines.

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009
Gianni infantinos FIFA Challenge but it's actually a Tropico style strategy game about amassing the most money possible without getting busted for corruption

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

the sex ghost posted:

Gianni infantinos FIFA Challenge but it's actually a Tropico style strategy game about amassing the most money possible without getting busted for corruption

I would play the gently caress out of this

nawilo_420
Nov 24, 2021
:redflag:

harperdc posted:

No, go check what Infantino said. They’re absolutely making the best game!

It’s going to be a clusterfuck and I’m here to watch from the sidelines.

actually they are making the best egame op

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
Infantino's Ambition

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

nawilo_420 posted:

actually they are making the best egame op

That's just how he pronounces game, remember he grew up red headed and Italian (imagine!)

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Loving Africa Chaps posted:

I would play the gently caress out of this

Same

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Butterfly Valley posted:

That's just how he pronounces game, remember he grew up red headed and Italian (imagine!)

Today I feel like a game developer

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.
In news that will surprise absolutely no-one here, Fifa's claims about the environmental credentials of the Qatar World Cup were full of poo poo

quote:

Fifa misled fans by claiming the Qatar World Cup would be carbon neutral, a Swiss regulator has ruled.

A report by the Commission for Loyalty, which regulates advertising in Switzerland, found that Fifa broke rules against unfair competition by making claims about the tournament that could not be proven, while using controversial offsetting measures that would not comply with Swiss standards. Fifa, which is based in Switzerland, has been warned to “refrain” from making such claims again. It said it was considering an appeal.

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The message that Qatar would be the “first carbon neutral World Cup” was prominent in the buildup to the tournament, even though estimates pointed to the tournament generating more CO2 than any previous event. Fifa claimed these emissions would either be offset or “compensated’’ for by – for example – the planting of gardens around the stadiums. The Swiss regulator found these claims to be unproven and unprovable.

“In the view of the chamber, the question of whether the promised compensation is truly realistic remains unclear,” the commission’s verdict said. It continued: “Even though [Fifa] repeatedly hints that it will fully offset the emissions to be definitively calculated at a later date, it is unable to provide proof that the estimated emissions have been offset. In addition, it is unclear whether [Fifa’s] offsetting measures comply with Swiss standards, eg the complete and sustainable removal of C02 from the atmosphere.

“It is recommended that the defendant refrain in future from making the disputed allegations, in particular that the 2022 Football World Cup in Qatar would be climate- and C02-neutral, unless it can provide, at the time of disclosure, full proof of the calculation, using generally accepted methods, of all C02 emissions caused by the tournament and proof of the full offsetting of these C02 emissions.”

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

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Ah well, at least they were warned not to make such claims again

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Here's a simply incredible article about the 2022 CL final, digging into the incredibly close relationship between Ceferin and UEFA's head of security, and the way they've done their level best to blame anybody else but him for the security fuckups at the final because the guy is Ceferin's best friend. I'm not gonna quote the whole thing but here are some highlights:

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Uefa has been accused of presenting “completely untrue” evidence to its own independent inquiry into the near-disaster at the 2022 Champions League final, to protect its safety and security unit – headed by the president’s best friend – from criticism.

The allegations have been made by Uefa’s then operations director, Sharon Burkhalter-Lau, an events management specialist, who was second in command in the planning of the 28 May final at the Stade de France between Liverpool and Real Madrid.

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Uefa appointed a panel of experts to review the debacle, and it concluded that Uefa had “primary responsibility” because it failed to monitor and oversee the safety plans and operation in Paris. However the panel said this failure was not principally the fault of the safety and security unit whose role is to oversee safety, but of Burkhalter-Lau’s events division, because it had “marginalised” the unit.

Since 2021 the safety and security unit has been headed by Zeljko Pavlica, best friend of the Uefa president, Aleksander Ceferin, with their relationship going back decades to their lives at home in Slovenia. Pavlica’s background is in personal bodyguard security, and his level of experience and expertise to qualify him for European football’s most senior stadium safety role has been questioned by some safety professionals.

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Burkhalter-Lau’s allegations raise further questions about Uefa’s culture under Ceferin. After the final, the Guardian reported on serious concerns about alleged cronyism in Uefa appointments, with Pavlica and four more of Ceferin’s associates from Slovenia appointed to key positions. Uefa denied the accusation of cronyism, saying they were all “proven professionals”.

Ceferin subsequently confirmed he had been instrumental in these appointments and suggested he should be applauded for it, saying in an interview: “If I brought competent people that I trust to Uefa, that are hard-working people there … I think I am quite good in this world of football.”

quote:

Ceferin, a lawyer in Slovenia, and Pavlica, former head of personal security for the country’s former president Janez Drnovsek, have been friends for decades, and Ceferin was best man at Pavlica’s 2018 wedding. Shortly after Ceferin became president of Slovenia’s football association in 2011, Pavlica was given his first job in football, working for the association as a safety and security officer.

Pavlica began doing some part-time work for Uefa, as many national safety officers do, in 2014. After Ceferin won the election to become Uefa president in September 2016, Pavlica was promoted to a permanent role at Uefa, as a security adviser.

In 2021 Uefa’s previous head of safety and security, Kenny Scott, a widely respected former Strathclyde police match commander and safety officer at Rangers, retired. Pavlica was appointed to replace him, following no formal recruitment process. Uefa said he was the “natural successor”.

Among football safety professionals, concerns have been raised about Pavlica’s qualifications for the immense complexities of overseeing safety at Europe’s biggest football matches. Some sources believe that he maintains a bias towards personal security, and accompanies Ceferin to matches rather than taking responsibility for the overall safety at a stadium. Uefa has rejected that concern.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/sep/25/uefa-accused-of-presenting-untrue-evidence-to-inquiry-on-champions-league-final-chaos

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Australia has dropped out of the bidding so Saudi Arabia is confirmed as the hosts for 2034.

It would be quite funny if the previous massive bribes meant there was no bidding process and so FIFA execs don't actually get the bribes they were hoping for by bringing the bid process forward.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
I hate it all but the one ray of hope is that it would be funny if the sudden onset Saudi interest in football fades over the years to come and we end up with some kind of shitshow nightmare of a World Cup because they halfass everything.

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

vyelkin posted:

I hate it all but the one ray of hope is that it would be funny if the sudden onset Saudi interest in football fades over the years to come and we end up with some kind of shitshow nightmare of a World Cup because they halfass everything.

There is no domestic Saudi interest in football outside of their national team. One of their Pro League games had an attendance of like 130 a couple weeks ago. Stevie G's boys played in front of 500 people last week

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Shrapnig posted:

There is no domestic Saudi interest in football outside of their national team. One of their Pro League games had an attendance of like 130 a couple weeks ago. Stevie G's boys played in front of 500 people last week

Lmao that’s amazing

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Yeah attendances are down post all the ridiculous signings. Even the best supported team is playing in a stadium 1/3 full

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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vyelkin posted:

I hate it all but the one ray of hope is that it would be funny if the sudden onset Saudi interest in football fades over the years to come and we end up with some kind of shitshow nightmare of a World Cup because they halfass everything.

Already is a shitshow nightmare to host a World Cup in a country with an unlivable climate, literal slaves, no human rights, democracy, alcohol or love of football.

Go where the fans are.

We’ve had our once in a 100 years experiment with an entirely unsuitable host last time.

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Watch them put games in Medina and Mecca.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
they do have actual stadiums unlike Qatar but idk if they're FIFA sanctioned in terms of capacity etc

however wtih climate change being what it is (ignoring the obvious corruption obviously) I think winter world cups are going to be increasingly common

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

Jose posted:

they do have actual stadiums unlike Qatar but idk if they're FIFA sanctioned in terms of capacity etc

however wtih climate change being what it is (ignoring the obvious corruption obviously) I think winter world cups are going to be increasingly common

They have eight (8) stadiums scheduled to open by 2026, all with capacities over 30k. Their current stadiums outside of a couple are total dogshit, wouldn't look out of place in non-League England.

One of the current Pro League teams plays here:

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

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but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
saudi football, while never particularly prestigious, has in fairness had a scene long before KSA started juicing every fuckin non-oil thing in sight

their average attendance outside of like 3 clubs is v bad tho lol

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/saudi-pro-league/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/SA1/plus/?saison_id=2022

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
Much like in Qatar, I suspect the goal there isn't to have a successful event for the masses, but an opportunity for the failkids of the oligarchs to party in the vvip room with Ronaldinho and a bunch of aspiring models.

The equivalent of your average local American nouveau riche paying a celebrity to appear at their social event, but for multi-billionaire sultans.

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If it's possible, Saudi is even less welcoming to tourists than Qatar. Absolutely no one will be at this loving tournament..

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Pook Good Mook posted:

If it's possible, Saudi is even less welcoming to tourists than Qatar. Absolutely no one will be at this loving tournament..

the people who matter will be there (FIFA execs doing Looney Tunes eyes at a big bag with a dollar sign on it)

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Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?
Maybe Saudi Arabia will choose Newcastle as the host city for the world cup. Would that be so bad?

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