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Humphrey Vasel posted:Has the thread title always said Quatar? Yes.
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Pook Good Mook posted:I'm at the point now where I almost want it to actually take place in Qatar and be such an abject disaster in every sense that it takes FIFA's executive staff down with it. FIFA's executive staff are very old men, most of them will probably be dead by the time Qatar rolls around.
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Jul 11, 2014 06:50
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I have just returned from a week's holiday in an undisclosed location and I can in fact confirm that Qatar is cool and good and definitely won the World Cup fair and square on the merits of its bid and with no money changing hands at all, and anyone suggesting otherwise should be prepared for a lengthy legal and/or physical battle.
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Aug 6, 2014 20:51
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Drogadon posted:http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/2014/08/04/fifa_boss_sepp_blatter_hypes_possible_canadian_bid_for_2026_world_cup.html We've hosted a few youth tournaments and we're hosting the Women's World Cup next year, it's clearly leading up to a 2026 bid which the CSA has said they're planning on making. Plus maybe we can just get someone from Montreal to head up the bid team, they speak Sepp's language (money; also, French).
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Aug 7, 2014 12:33
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Was Taters posted:I was thinking maybe someone from Toronto... someone with the last name Ford. He'd probably show up to the bid presentation, sweat a lot, loudly announce that "soccer is for fags", and pass out. TRP would love it.
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Aug 8, 2014 11:35
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FullLeatherJacket posted:A bid... for the World Cup? Like, the actual World Cup with the teams and stuff? You want to do that in Canada? Like, the actual Canada? With the nothing at all and stuff? More stuff than Qatar, and just as much oil. If they can do it, so can plucky little Canada.
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Aug 8, 2014 16:32
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Mods please rename me Football is a simple game that only becomes complicated once you attempt to explain the active and passive offside rules to your wife.
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Aug 26, 2014 16:40
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Joint bid by Donetsk People's Republic and Abkhazia imo.
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Aug 31, 2014 12:28
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Bobby Digital posted:US bid best bid. Japan bid equally best bid.
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Sep 10, 2014 22:39
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Germany's ExCo member Theo Zwanziger believes the World Cup won't be held in Qatar after all. There is definitely a fight going on within FIFA over this right now. Hopefully they all mutually annihilate each other.
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Sep 22, 2014 15:18
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serious gaylord posted:The Serious Fraud Office have requested a copy of the report about the world cup bidding process with the aim of prosecution. FIFA have made it abundantly clear that they intend to make sure this thing never sees the light of day. I can't see them handing it over to the police, ever.
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Sep 23, 2014 13:30
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I can see it already. FIFA have made it clear that only the prosecutor and ethics judges get to see the report, the actual ExCo members don't. So they make it so that the report can never be handed over, and the ExCo members who didn't have access to it anyway face no penalties, but the guys who actually investigated corruption are suddenly facing criminal penalties or travel restrictions or whatever because they wouldn't hand over a report.
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Sep 23, 2014 14:03
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Vegetable posted:Need more details. A FIFA-sanctioned film that makes Blatter look like a crook is the dream. quote:The film faced criticism from media concerning the £16million cost of production, more than the annual turnover of most of UEFA's national associations.[4][5][6]
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Sep 28, 2014 01:06
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Don't forget that Gerard Depardieu is the guy who moved to Russia to avoid France's new high taxes. Even if Roth and the director did slip in some ironic corruption, I'm pretty sure Depardieu didn't.
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Sep 28, 2014 13:30
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Some woman players are suing FIFA and the Canadian Soccer Association at an Ontario Human Rights Tribunal because the Women's World Cup next year is being played on artificial turf. They say it's sexual discrimination that the men's tournaments happen on real grass while the women's tournament happens on poo poo artificial turf. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29453614 tbh I think they've got a point, artificial turf is some big time fail and it only gets used for football in Canada because growing good grass here is too expensive cause it's so loving cold all the time.
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Oct 4, 2014 14:35
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Tsaedje posted:What surfaces would they play on if Canada hosted the men's World Cup? If the reason for the fake pitches is the climate it's not an issue of sexual discrimination. If FIFA requires the men's World Cup to be played on real grass but not the women's there is a slight case. The reason for the fake pitches is that it's cheaper, because of the climate. There is a football stadium in Canada that has a real grass field (BMO Field in Toronto, not being used for the Women's World Cup because of really, really stupid reasons), but it used to have astroturf and it was total garbage. The players who played there regularly got injured all the time and it contributed to the team playing very poorly. Then, one time Real Madrid came for a friendly and the team installed real grass for that one match because Madrid's players didn't want to play on turf, and then removed it again after the friendly, and the team's players and fans raised such a poo poo fit that the team was willing to pay the extra money to cater to Real Madrid but not for their own players that finally they replaced it with a permanent real grass pitch. It's purely an issue of cost, that maintaining good grass is harder because of the climate but not impossible. I believe the case being made (in Canadian human rights courts, remember, not in FIFA or sport courts) is that if Canada somehow managed to host the World Cup they would hold it on grass, but because the women's tournament is less important then they're not bothering to do the same. In Canada that kind of institutional discrimination is a big no-go, even if everyone knows that's how football operates globally.
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Oct 6, 2014 00:09
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Byolante posted:I think that at the height of the soviet doping program they solved that problem by altering the body chemistry so drastically the women essentially became men. This can't be right because Tumblr didn't exist until 2007.
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Oct 9, 2014 01:32
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After being elected president of FIFA, Blatter calls together all the FIFA higher-ups to tell them what for. There have been some irregularities, after all—hints that not everyone is as honest and incorruptible as he is. "Now, the next tournament will take place in both South Korea and Japan, far from Europe" he tells the assembled big-wigs. "Some of you may feel that this is a good opportunity to close lucrative deals with certain lobbies. Think again. No sport is spotless; there is just a lot more money involved in ours, which is why from now on we will be exemplary in all respects. The slightest breach of ethics will be severely punished."  The assembled bureaucrats, who for whatever reason just happen to have some attractive Adidas and Coca-Cola products laying around, say things like "Haw haw! Is that a threat, Mr. President?" and "President Havelange would have never dared to treat us with such utter contempt," to which the imperturbable Blatter has a reasonable comeback: "Well, maybe he should have." "President Havelange—" "Is no longer president. I am. João Havelange presided over our family for 24 years. Did he make mistakes? Perhaps. It's not for me to judge. But I am warning you—all of you. We will play by my rules now. Gentlemen." Truly, the hero football deserves.
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Oct 11, 2014 13:42
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Earthy Ape Unit posted:FIFA owns North Koreans
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Nov 8, 2014 04:01
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I look forward to one of Qatar's stadiums not being complete and so them just paying a thousand Nepali slave labourers to lay down in the middle of the desert and let a football match be played on their backs. Best part is then they can double dip and count those thousand people as extra in the attendance figures.
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Nov 12, 2014 14:28
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 Even if this report were 100% accurate and there was no corruption in the Qatar bid, all that would prove is that the FIFA ExCo are absolutely terrible at their jobs and should all be sacked anyway for gross negligence and incompetence, not to mention complicity in gross human rights violations.
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Nov 13, 2014 12:52
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Blue Star Error posted:Germany warns Uefa may quit Fifa if World Cup report not published gently caress yes it won't happen but at least they're threatening meaningful things.
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Nov 15, 2014 16:17
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Nov 17, 2014 19:37
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Bea Nanner posted:It's amazing how much of a fortress FIFA is. You'd think someone in their camp would be able to leak documents semi-anonymously. I doubt they are spending all their money on cyber-security. But I guess there are lucrative salaries/contacts at stake so no one has the balls to be a whistleblower. I'd be very surprised if the report has ever been on a computer that has internet access. An organization as wealthy as FIFA knows that a little investment in cyber-security now (especially in the age of the NSA and Russian hackers stealing like a million credit card numbers a week) is worth a lot when the report doesn't get stolen and leaked, and their sponsors don't desert en masse.
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Nov 18, 2014 02:17
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Dirk Pitt posted:What's stopping Garcia from just dumpling it to a journo? They would know it was him and he'd end up with a price on his head?
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Nov 18, 2014 02:49
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Garcia has no incentive to leak the report. By protesting Eckert's summary without actually giving details, he gets to look like he wrote a golden report (that no one will ever read) while at the same time there aren't any penalties for him actually wanting it to see the light of day. And for all we know the actual report exonerates Qatar and Russia as well, and the thing Garcia is appealing is that Eckert wasn't harsh enough on England and Australia. By not leaking it, everyone fills in their own blanks for what Garcia discovered, and he wins. He gets to have his cake and eat it too.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:26
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I'm waiting for "The Office, FIFA Edition" where Blatter is shown to be an incompetent manager and the entire ExCo is revealed to just sit around all day doing nothing, only instead of occasionally selling paper they occasionally take a bribe from wealthy slaveowning oil barons.
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Nov 21, 2014 14:27
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In case anyone woke up from a fever dream this morning thinking Sepp Blatter had de-Grinched himself, he took the time to disabuse you of these dangerous notions:quote:Sepp Blatter insists that the 2022 World Cup will be staged in Qatar http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/30/defiant-sepp-blatter-2022-world-cup-qatar I especially like the extra "Hey, any other oil-rich Middle Eastern nations, if you want to host a tournament, just give me a call" thrown in there at the end.
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Nov 30, 2014 21:07
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Voting should be weighted by FIFA rankings (lol) and performance in the last World Cup. Last World Cup winner gets 10 votes. Runner-up gets 8. Third place gets 6. Fourth place and all quarter-finalists get 5. Round of 16 countries get 4. Group stage countries get 2. Then every team in the top 25 FIFA rankings gets 5 votes. 26-50 get 4 votes. 51-100 get 3 votes. 101-150 get 2 votes. 151+ get 1 vote. It would be a massive clusterfuck to organize votes, but at least Germany would have 15 times the say of American Samoa.
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Dec 10, 2014 23:13
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Earthy Ape Unit posted:and who is gonna vote to vote for this voting? UEFA once they leave and form their own world governing body, of course.
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Dec 10, 2014 23:50
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You can theoretically see how Russia might win a legitimate competitive vote to host a major sporting tournament. It's a big country with a big population and a proven track record of moderate success in sports, it already has a bunch of stadiums even if they are far apart, it actually has a football league with teams that take part in European competitions, etc etc. There is literally no way Qatar could ever win a legitimate competitive vote to host a major sporting tournament. It's a tiny shithole in the middle of the desert that only gets to a million inhabitants because of all the slaves and is only noteworthy for its oil, that has never taken part in any major sporting events, let alone host one, and doesn't have any infrastructure to do so.
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Dec 11, 2014 14:12
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Total Meatlove posted:Qatar will host nearly everything bar the Olympics before the World Cup because nobody cares about Athletics or Swimming competitions. Yeah, and I'm sure they won all those bids fair and square too. Next they'll bid for the Pan-Am Games and then host the next meeting of the Francophonie.
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Dec 11, 2014 14:23
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Pook Good Mook posted:Are we not including Basketball or Ice Hockey for any special reason? The US is great at winning sports where they have pretty much the only professional league in the world (or their professional league is so far ahead of the other ones that they get literally 100% of the good players to play there). Other sports, not so much. And even then, they can't win at hockey.
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Dec 11, 2014 23:51
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/\/\/\/\ We are exceptional at packaging up things to be consumed in media. That's our thing. We're A+ #1 at it. I've watched many broadcasts, fumbled with UI/UX features on different websites, and I've wondered why all this poo poo is so old and dated. The world media mostly loving sucks at covering football, both from the lack of advanced stats to actually explain things and general packaging of it.Pook Good Mook posted:It seems pretty convenient we aren't considering the Olympics in our count of world championships. Team sports or otherwise. Individual sports really don't count for poo poo when it comes to performance in team sports. And in Olympic team sports, again, the US only dominates, or even really does well at all, in sports where they have the #1 completely most dominant professional league in the world and no one else even comes close. Team sports at the Olympics:
But yeah, the US is clearly sooooo good at team sports, at the Olympics or otherwise.
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Dec 12, 2014 00:44
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Daduzi posted:^^^This We really aren't though.
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Dec 12, 2014 00:54
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The real solution is to be like Canada and only care about one sport and also completely dominate the world at it.
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Dec 12, 2014 00:56
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Votes should be based on how many European Championships the country has won.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:41
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Pook Good Mook posted:And now the selection of hosts will be done through a full member vote rather than Exco. There's also the issue that Papua New Guinea or the Comoros Islands or St. Kitts and Nevis have a virtually nonexistent chance of ever making it to an actual World Cup, like literally ever, so they have no incentive not to host the next one in the middle of a North Korean concentration camp as long as that's whoever provides the biggest incentives for them personally or for their own lovely little fiefdom.
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Dec 12, 2014 23:33
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serious gaylord posted:No it wont. It's a chance for double bribery, it's really something special. FIFA have outdone themselves yet again.
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Watch Russia suddenly have 2018 taken away because they can no longer bribe FIFA execs, lmao.
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