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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Syncopated posted:

lol for real?

yes

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
If we give every person in the world a World Cup then everyone will be employed at all times, thank you FIFA for solving all problems forever

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Panini sticker mobile game where the trade interface mysteriously doesn't work but you can spend $0.99 to get the last sticker you need to complete Ecuador

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
can't wait for my VAR Break Brought To YOu By Sprite to show me a 30-second Budweiser ad because the clock is fully stopped while Mr. Pixels draws the lines to see if Cristiano Ronaldo's dick and balls were offside and then the commercial takes too long so I don't even see what the ref's decision was but i do know that the decision was brought tome by American Express

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

ilmucche posted:

I think the bbc posted how much average gametime there was for each team but I can't find it again

I remember them doing this years ago and saying the lowest amount of real gametime they could find was that one Stoke-Villa match, you know the one

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Vegetable posted:

Would stopping the clock really make the overall runtime shorter? Football’s nice because it’s just 90 minutes, give or take. If you hit pause for every stoppage it feels like the whole thing can spiral out of control.

Yeah this is a real problem to consider. In basketball they found recently that in close games the last two minutes of game time can take about half an hour to play because teams are constantly fouling each other and calling timeouts, which keeps stopping the clock after like 0.5 seconds of game time have elapsed.

imo football should stay as-is for the game clock but refs should strictly enforce rules around timewasting. Yellow cards for everybody and don't be shy about sending players off for timewasting when they've already got a yellow.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

nawilo_420 posted:

This is not an issue in football because there are no timeouts op.

There are still fouls, penalties, corners, offside calls, VAR, etc., and lol if you think they wouldn't take the chance to introduce timeouts at some point in the future as soon as it wouldn't affect the game clock.

Also for all that we're all concerned about timewasting, one side having incentive to timewaste means the other side doesn't and gets on with it quickly. For example, if the clock is paused for every throw-in, then the team chasing a game in the 89th minute won't be taking throw-ins after half a second to get on with the game, they'll be waiting to get every player in the right position before chucking the thing. Stopping the game clock makes sense to solve some current problems with the flow of the game, but is likely to also introduce entirely new problems.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
The NBA has a rule where if too many minutes pass in a quarter without either team calling a timeout then the refs call a timeout to show commercials.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Apparently UEFA pre-prepared their statement about "late fans" causing problems at the Champions League final well in advance in the expectation that if anything went wrong with their botch job rearrangement they could just blame the fans and walk away with their own hands clean.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Right from the start, the expansion to 48 teams was guaranteed to be a shitshow, but at least they didn't go with the absolutely horrendous 3-team group idea.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
United Passions-rear end football game

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Pook Good Mook posted:

Ya EA is going to sell a game called "Ultimate Soccer/Football 2024" or something and will put Messi on the cover and make nearly as much as they made with the FIFA name. EA still has the contract with the players' unions and the leagues.

EA will make EA FC 2024 and it'll be the identical same game we all love to hate with all the licensing rights and FIFA will make janky trash where you play as the Merseyside Reds and can accelerate to infinite speed as long as you're running backwards

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Here's a simply incredible article about the 2022 CL final, digging into the incredibly close relationship between Ceferin and UEFA's head of security, and the way they've done their level best to blame anybody else but him for the security fuckups at the final because the guy is Ceferin's best friend. I'm not gonna quote the whole thing but here are some highlights:

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Uefa has been accused of presenting “completely untrue” evidence to its own independent inquiry into the near-disaster at the 2022 Champions League final, to protect its safety and security unit – headed by the president’s best friend – from criticism.

The allegations have been made by Uefa’s then operations director, Sharon Burkhalter-Lau, an events management specialist, who was second in command in the planning of the 28 May final at the Stade de France between Liverpool and Real Madrid.

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Uefa appointed a panel of experts to review the debacle, and it concluded that Uefa had “primary responsibility” because it failed to monitor and oversee the safety plans and operation in Paris. However the panel said this failure was not principally the fault of the safety and security unit whose role is to oversee safety, but of Burkhalter-Lau’s events division, because it had “marginalised” the unit.

Since 2021 the safety and security unit has been headed by Zeljko Pavlica, best friend of the Uefa president, Aleksander Ceferin, with their relationship going back decades to their lives at home in Slovenia. Pavlica’s background is in personal bodyguard security, and his level of experience and expertise to qualify him for European football’s most senior stadium safety role has been questioned by some safety professionals.

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Burkhalter-Lau’s allegations raise further questions about Uefa’s culture under Ceferin. After the final, the Guardian reported on serious concerns about alleged cronyism in Uefa appointments, with Pavlica and four more of Ceferin’s associates from Slovenia appointed to key positions. Uefa denied the accusation of cronyism, saying they were all “proven professionals”.

Ceferin subsequently confirmed he had been instrumental in these appointments and suggested he should be applauded for it, saying in an interview: “If I brought competent people that I trust to Uefa, that are hard-working people there … I think I am quite good in this world of football.”

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Ceferin, a lawyer in Slovenia, and Pavlica, former head of personal security for the country’s former president Janez Drnovsek, have been friends for decades, and Ceferin was best man at Pavlica’s 2018 wedding. Shortly after Ceferin became president of Slovenia’s football association in 2011, Pavlica was given his first job in football, working for the association as a safety and security officer.

Pavlica began doing some part-time work for Uefa, as many national safety officers do, in 2014. After Ceferin won the election to become Uefa president in September 2016, Pavlica was promoted to a permanent role at Uefa, as a security adviser.

In 2021 Uefa’s previous head of safety and security, Kenny Scott, a widely respected former Strathclyde police match commander and safety officer at Rangers, retired. Pavlica was appointed to replace him, following no formal recruitment process. Uefa said he was the “natural successor”.

Among football safety professionals, concerns have been raised about Pavlica’s qualifications for the immense complexities of overseeing safety at Europe’s biggest football matches. Some sources believe that he maintains a bias towards personal security, and accompanies Ceferin to matches rather than taking responsibility for the overall safety at a stadium. Uefa has rejected that concern.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/sep/25/uefa-accused-of-presenting-untrue-evidence-to-inquiry-on-champions-league-final-chaos

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
I hate it all but the one ray of hope is that it would be funny if the sudden onset Saudi interest in football fades over the years to come and we end up with some kind of shitshow nightmare of a World Cup because they halfass everything.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Pook Good Mook posted:

If it's possible, Saudi is even less welcoming to tourists than Qatar. Absolutely no one will be at this loving tournament..

the people who matter will be there (FIFA execs doing Looney Tunes eyes at a big bag with a dollar sign on it)

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
IFAB has said thanks but no thanks to the idea of blue cards and sin bins, but they're going to allow trials of a new time wasting rule where goalkeepers get eight seconds to hold the ball instead of six, but the ref will visibly count down the last five seconds on their hand so the goalkeeper, players, and fans can all see how much time the keeper has left. And if the keeper is still holding on to the ball at the end of eight seconds, the trials will let competitions trial giving a throw-in in line with the penalty spot or even a corner kick, since one reason refs don't call the foul for keepers holding the ball is that the rules say they should give an indirect free kick in the box and refs hate giving those because they're so chaotic, which is a shame because indirect free kicks in the box are great.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

the sex ghost posted:

Managers salivating at the opportunity to kick off at the ref in the post match for counting too slow or too fast

The ref was eating a sandwich while counting... very disrespectful to a Premier League manager

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

quote:

From 2024 the tournament will take place annually and will have 48 participating teams divided into 4 'mini-tournaments' of 12 teams each divided into 3 groups of 4 with the winners and best runner up qualifying to the MT semi-finals and the 2 winners qualifying to the final. The winner of each MT would qualify to a 'final four' tournament with 2 semi-finals, a third place match and a final to decide the FIFA U17 World Champions.[4]

wtf is this poo poo lmao

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

ilmucche posted:

Finally mini leagues are making it to u17 tournaments

Is this them trialling a different format for a 48 team world cup?

I would guess so.

Also I hope everyone is prepared for the next ten years of stories about thousands of migrant workers dying on construction sites in Saudi Arabia that will make us all angry and spark zero positive change in the world.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Nuclear Spoon posted:

it's very funny to me everytime "growing the game" is used with regards to football. it's football. the only thing bigger than football is earth itself which is also a kind of football

growing the [size of the bank accounts owned by the people who manage the] game

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Star Man posted:

I really want to know how that works. Do you hire a household employee who lives in the penthouse and feeds and takes care of the cats?

Because I would honestly be comfortable with that job.

He had one apartment in Trump Tower for himself and another apartment in Trump Tower for his cats

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Americans think their country doesn't have corruption because they legalized it and called it lobbying

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Shrapnig posted:

Football should always be played in a timezone that is conducive to me watching

:hmmyes:

the best tournaments are the ones that are approximately 6 hours ahead of my time zone, so that when I wake up there's football on and then the football stays on all day

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
I remember Australia complaining that their gifts of "a nice box of wine" to each committee member somehow couldn't compete with envelopes full of cash being slipped under hotel room doors

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

lol

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

sticksy posted:

Feel very silly and naive when Blatter finally went down and I momentarily believed “surely it can't get dumber and more blatantly corrupt” and Infantino/FIFA have proved me wrong every day since

Blatter was incredibly corrupt but he was at least incredibly corrupt in a funny way instead of a depressing way

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