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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I want them to befriend the ice monster and keep it as a pet.

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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I want a show which is about Bruce running Wayne Enterprises, making dealings with LexCorp and Queen Consolidated, helping Gotham back to its feet, dealing with politics and corruption, etc. The existence of Batman and supervillains would be acknowledged but the show would make no effort to imply that Bruce has a double life as Batman at all. The closest he'll come to fighting supervillains would be fighting against the League of Assassins' attempts to destroy Gotham through their new weapon, "economics".

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Waterhaul posted:

she almost bumps into the truck that ends up hitting Daredevil, giving him his powers, she meets Thor as he just arrives in Earth

When did these two happen?

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

From BC's piece on the pilot:

http://imgur.com/NFdwpEz

:aaa:

So THAT's where Ollie's company went!

Since this is a shared universe, and there has been precedent for Batman characters on Arrow, can we assume that this is more than just an easter egg?

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Madkal posted:

Finally finished watching the whole episode. Firstly the combining of Barbara with Kathy Kane is loving pointless

I haven't seen it yet, but was there some hint that she might become Batwoman? Because Barbara Gordon's mom actually is named Barbara Kean, so...

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I like Aguirre-Sacasa's work in comics, especially his work on Archie, but on TV, he wrote for Glee. D: But hey, I guess other good writers got absorbed into Glee before so that's not necessary a damning thing.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I think it's pretty clear that Ward slept with all those guards, and then they got shot by Garrett.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57194

:psyduck:

I'm enjoying Gotham but they need to slow the gently caress down.

To make sure that everyone knows what their connection to Batman is, they'll be renamed from John and Mary to Robin and Robin. Gordon will find out that they've been stealing from Tony Zucco to give back to the poor of Gotham, and he tells them they're like modern Robin Hoods, to which the mom replies "Robin... such a nice name."

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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The showrunner is Veronica Mars' Rob Thomas and is about a girl who solves crimes, so I imagine it'll be pretty good.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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TwoPair posted:

Constantine will come to Starling City to solve the magical mystery of why nobody outside of the protagonists seems to acknowledge Diggle. (I mean seriously I get that he has military training and all so you can bullshit away how he gets away from the cops but whenever the police are putting out APBs for "the vigilante" how does no one bring up this completely unmasked black gunman who tends to show up in the all the same places at the same time)

Do you not know why the Arrow's costume is green? Have you ever read that Batman comic where he has to dress up in a differently colored Bat-costume every day?

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I mentioned this in the Constantine thread but it would be cool if next year's big DCTV crossover miniseries had them dealing with the Rising Darkness.

MacheteZombie posted:

There will be no less than four episodes worth of flashbacks establishing how he knows Constantine..

Also how Ollie slept with Zed and Zed was the one who had a vision telling him he had to go back to the island.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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1602CU confirmed???

Also he didn't wipe Cap's memory; Cap was just keeping his identity secret because he saw it as a second chance at building America right or something like that. It was only upon being told that a time traveller was responsible for the end of the world that he came forward.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I'm holding out hope that next year's big crossover a la Legends of Tomorrow will be Constantine recruiting heroes to fight The Rising Darkness.

The Archie stuff sounds fairly interesting and I'm definitely gonna watch. Sacasa said it would have some influence from Twin Peaks, which is weird, but okay.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Their refusal to say "Avengers" is kind of weird, but there seems to be an inherent comedy in acknowledging the shared universe too blatantly, and I suppose they wanted to avoid that. When I watched Hulk, the audience laughed when Tony showed up at the end, and when I watched Ant-man, they laughed really hard when Scott recommended calling the Avengers. Hell, Bruce Banner and Steve Rogers' cameos in Iron Man 3 and Thor were both played for laughs.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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It's insignificant to the cases of the week but there's enough going on in the main story that zombieism is pretty relevant. Especially when it comes to Major.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Given his track record with AwA, I'm also looking forward to the show having a schedule to rival Gravity Falls :v:

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I want that to happen, but also Jimmy, Toyman Jr, Cat, and team DEO should be the only ones to know that The Flash is the same person as that nerd Barry who's been hanging around them lately.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I really appreciated it last season when Coulson agreed to have a SHIELD board of directors (wtf happened to the rest of them anyway) and they started making decisions he didn't like and his reaction was "I asked for your advice and I'd be a fool not to take it" instead of immediately going behind their backs with a secret Ollieplan. Surprise surprise, the board was actually on the level, they were good people, and the only reason it didn't work was they didn't count on Jiaying being psychotic.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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It's a show about a snarky girl who does detective work, created by Veronica Mars' Rob Thomas. She happens to be undead but the world is otherwise just like our own.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Just write Melissa Benoist into Arrow as a super strong amnesiac who decides to take on the name Karen Starr. Flash recognizes her when they meet, and it turns out the amnesia was caused by an extreme reaction to whatever has been sapping team Flash's intelligence all season.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Cool, it's a good sign that we didn't have to wait until the season finale to catch a glimpse of Clark's feet.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Toxxupation posted:

If people say it's good, I'll give it a shot approaching with an open mind, but the early extreme negativity (and how everyone insisted it "got good after Winter Soldier") combined with what I've anecdotally seen doesn't exactly inspire confidence. On the other hand, though, I really love stuff like the Kree (and the Inhumans) so I'd be interested in a TV show that deals with that as a concept.

Basically my question is is it good or good because it's the only MCU TV show that deals with larger-scale threats and ideas?

I think the show is legit good, albeit not as good this season as it was in the second season and latter portion of the first season. If you finish season 1 and don't like it, the following seasons won't change your mind.

That said, let me tell what it doesn't have: it doesn't have characters making decisions that are anywhere near as bad as the decisions the characters (and writers :v) on Flash or Arrow or Legends make. When the characters have some emotional problem, they actually hash it out, and when someone has a secret, they keep appropriate people in the loop instead of keeping it a secret from everyone until it all comes to a boil. That alone makes it really refreshing.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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The front page of the 100-page epic "The Sokovia Accords" says "Framework for the Registration and Deployment of Enhanced Individuals" so y'all can stop complaining about this specific thing

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I'm 50-50 on this. Sacasa has done amazing work on Afterlife With Archie, giving it a darker edge without losing the characters. On the other hand, the show is a Berlanti production on the CW and Sacasa was also a writer for Glee.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Arthur's girlfriend in Warehouse 13 was actually in Alphas, playing the same character, but I don't think she mentioned the Warehouse. I always figured that Pete's vibes and Jinks' lie detection were mild Alpha abilities.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I too have much more fun watching AoS than any of the CW DC shows other than iZombie. Its biggest crime is being a lot less fantastic compared to Flash or Arrow (no doubt thanks to the limitations imposed by working within the MCU), but they manage to avoid plenty of problematic elements that Flash and Arrow repeat ad infinitum, which I feel is much more important. That's not to say I don't have fun watching the Berlanti shows, but I enjoy those because of their heavy focus on the "hey it's this thing from the comics" that SHIELD is frequently criticized for avoiding.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Boogaleeboo posted:

To be fair it does sort of cover that bit. In short, Christian becomes Green Lantern.

Did they manage to cover anything resembling the arcs where Supershock goes nutso, or where Walker is an immortal?

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Not that I'd like them to run a single joke into the ground, but the joke of Squirrel Girl being able to defeat big name villains wouldn't have as much punch considering that between all the films and TV shows, the only famous one still alive is... Thanos, whom Squirrel Girl is in no way going to ever meet in the MCU. Kingpin or Abomination I guess?

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I liked how the crossover went hog wild with character interactions, which is always the highlight of these things, and that made it a lot of fun to watch. That said, the stupidity of the characters shone through right from the get-go with the episode opening with Ollie shouting "YOU REALLY DID IT THIS TIME BARRY". Then Sara lecturing Barry about changing history when she tried to assassinate Dahrk in the past just two weeks ago, and Oliver apparently thinking this is all okay because eh he would have done the same thing. And why didn't the aliens leave anyone guarding the orb?

I also like how all of Team Arrow was basically "I hate everything that has to do with Barry," especially with Ollie going "is there another evil speedster you need help with?"

Edit: also couldn't Barry be assed to subdue Felicity's boyfriend or whatever while he was busy saving them?

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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Clearly Jessica called him the big green guy because it's insensitive to mention his hero-name in New York after he destroyed Harlem

Lurdiak posted:

I think that, even though it doesn't totally jibe, both the Netflix shows and the movies go by "It happens when it comes out" to avoid confusing timeline stuff. That's why Dr. Strange's beginning was set after Civil War even though that implies his life falling apart, his long search for answers and his training took like 6 months, absolute maximum.

His car crash seems to be around the same time as Iron Man 2, since one of his potential patients was one of Hammer's test subjects for his armor.

I think at this point we can just assume the MCU follows a sliding timeline as well though.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Oh awesome, that scene where Matt interrupts Jessica's interrogation is exactly how she met Matt in the comics. Now all I need is a throwaway line about how "that crawly insect guy is nowhere to be found" or something, and the show will be complete.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Sgt. Politeness posted:

Yeah but they aged her up which I feel like is missing the point of her character almost entirely.

Ha ha you silly! The girl in the trailer is not Molly Hayes, but Molly Hernandez, someone who is medically and legally distinct from the child mutant Molly Hayes and I can never take this back!

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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It's Pretty Little Liars cranked all the way up to 11. If you don't like teen soap with a dash of murder mystery thrown in this isn't going to make you feel any differently but if you love any of the shows used as a point of comparison you will eat it right the gently caress up.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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I was previously thinking that it looks bad, but I'm revising my opinion to just "Medusa looks bad". Everything else looks perfectly passable for network television, but Medusa looks like she's wearing a porn parody costume of herself.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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The minute or two of footage we've seen is pretty close to the comic; I wonder if they'll do the Cloak and Dagger story, since those two are also getting a show at nearly the same time. Also, I wonder if at the end of the arc they'll get (comics spoilers) rounded up by some established characters like Iron Man did in the comics. That's too much to hope for in a Hulu show so maybe Coulson & co? If they decide to go in that direction, of course.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Josh Schwartz is cool, and Chuck was a lot of fun. Regardless of your feelings about its later seasons (which I enjoyed, for the record), I think it's tonally a pretty good match for Runaways. I want to see just how flagrantly he ignores the MCU, considering Chuck barely paid attention to its own continuity.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Barry Convex posted:

If the Yorkes aren't time travelers

They're bioengineers. Dunno about the Deans.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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Hm, the AV Club's review says the Yorkes are still time travelers, contrary to an earlier review I read. Hope that's the case. As for the magic, I can probably live with that if they just say "it's science" once near the start and then never mention it again like in the Thor movies.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

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It's up!

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Sep 29, 2005

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All that's left now is for them to make a Superman prequel series about baby Clark's trip to earth and they'll have every aspect of Superman's past covered.

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