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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Irish Joe posted:

Yeah, anything produced between 2006 and 2010. Her newest album, Red, released in 2012, is hot garbage.

Finally an Irish Joe opinion that rises my ire.

Red's the poo poo. gently caress all y'all haters.

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Pinwiz11 posted:

It's really quite a great idea for a show. Bring the funny fast, minimal filler, and add some minor game show elements. (My only gripe is the inevitable editing that interrupts my math flow. WHERE DID THAT 100 POINTS COME FROM???? :argh:)

Wasn't there a show on IFC with I think Kurt Bruanholder (sp?) that was basically that? How's that going?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

On the cusp of dropping the League again. I'd be interested to see what that writing room is like, because while the cast is always excellent, the writing dives into juvenile (and unfunny) as gently caress and just downright unpleasant every few episodes. I really can't ever recommend it to anyone.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

There's a difference. Its why I put unfunny in paranthesis. I love juvenile. Just don't be mean-spirited about it. Coming off the sixth ep of the current episode, the way they treat Andre (and how, how many gay sex jokes can one show handle?! Apparently all of them!) left a bad taste in my mouth. Its punching downwards at this point, by smug bastards that never get any sort of comeuppance. Pete is like a Seinfeld who is never funny and ends each episode giving a swirlie to Newman. The dog and kid abuse was just the cherry on top.

Its also incredibly formuliac juvenile humor. Taco has a wacky new business that fails. Kevin has something awful happen in regard to food or his stomach. Pete wins. Andre mimes unthinkingly gay sex.

Ruxin is alright though.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Rarity posted:

I'm randomly watching the first episode of Angel. I can't believe it's been almost 15 years since this first aired.

Still my favorite Whedon show.

And I'm really interested in dipping into Top of the Lake. The Fall seems like another super dreary yet exploitative (superhero) serial killer show to me.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

We're recommending shows? loving Hannibal. Done. See you in 13 hours.

EDIT: And for gods sake, tell me that Terry Crews is being considered for Luke Cage. That's the only bit of casting I'm interested with this Marvel crap.

Shageletic fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Nov 13, 2013

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

DivisionPost posted:

If it's for Sophia? She's tried Hannibal. Not her bag.

Then I have nothing to give.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (ugh, so many periods) has been pretty crap, with a few bright spots. The last week's episode, however, was the first one I can say that actually worked on its own as an hour of TV, rather than as just something I watch and couldn't justify other than it hit my particular type of nerdery. It had excitement and emotion and everything!

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Sophia posted:

Hannibal was very beautiful to watch but it had nothing to interest me as a weekly television show with no ending.

This is a sentiment that doesn't work for me. There are certain shows that work better in hourly installments (as they were originally intended) and have enough things being put out there, enough stuff for you to simmer and mull over, that watching in one go would be overwhelming.

I'm thankful for watching a show like Mad Men from its pilot. Watching in one chunk wouldn't glean you nearly as much letting a particular episode or scene settle for a week. And don't forget the joy of watching a show evolve unexpectedly. I started watching BB from the pilot, and the jump up from S1 to S2, then S2 to S3 is something I still savor. Who knew that this funny poke at middle class stagnation could turn into that?!

Hannabal works on an episode to episode basis, with enough meat (sorry) for you to chew on (oh god) to fill my stomach (now this is getting ridiculous. Cannibalism).

What I don't have patience for are shows that are just there to take up time (i.e. light and fluffy). If I wanted a comedy, I'd watch a comedy. At least it'd engage me. If I wanted to do something that didn't require much thought, I'd use the internet more.

But yeah, Lost hosed with a lot of people.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Sophia posted:

I honestly can't think of even one show I would rather have watched week to week than be able to inhale them more than one at a time at my own speed, so maybe we're just different that way. I guess maybe, MAYBE Twin Peaks but even that is likely not true. I like to think about TV and talk about TV a lot but the unit of an episode can still be talked about in the context of an entire season or whole work so I don't ever need to stop and have a think to be able to do it.

Different strokes for different folks, then. Fair enough.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I tend to come in and bleed out negativity, so here's a couple things I've been enjoying catching up on.

Banshee. Up to the third episode, a lot of fun. Like an x-rated mash-up of Roadhouse and Happy, Texas. A bit on the shallow side right now, but enjoying the unrelenting grimness and brutality of the thing. Interesting characters as well.

Fringe season 5. Up to the seventh episode. The fact that there isn't really episode length plots in favor of a continuous season long one makes it feel like I'm watching a 10 hour movie. In a good way. Consistently exciting to watch, its a great thing to spread out over a few days. Gonna be sad when it finishes though.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

A lot of crazy stuff being revealed on this page. A Tolkein rip-off that nevertheless I have a weird soft spot for (the series is about a nuclear war creating trolls and elves you guys. Middle school Shag loved that poo poo). A new Terminator show is happening. But the biggest surprise...

Community is still on?! Did it get good again?

EDIT: Still haven't seen the last couple of episodes of Carnivale (same with FNL). I just don't wanna it to be over...

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

He does say stuff that I agree with mixed in with his juvenile enfant terrible bullshit so its hard to ignore completely.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Kraps posted:

What's Farscape?

My favorite sci-fi show.

I'll knife fight anyone who says differently.

Lycus posted:

I believe it was more an American/Australian co-production. It was filmed in Australia, though.

Thinking of that quote from Warren Ellis about the show: that's its the story of an American through Australia's bondage scene.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Pinwiz11 posted:

That also explains Crichton's leather pants... :allears:

I'm pretty sure everyone on the show wore leather, including muppets.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Manos del Sino posted:

I've watched every episode and will stick with it. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call it the worst, or one of the worst, shows in recent memory, but considering that I watch a lot of crap, and this is the crappiest crap out of all the crap that I watch the crap out of, it's a pretty big piece of crap.

-Blackadder- posted:

The plot is ridiculous and it gets even more ridiculous as it goes on, which is something that hardly seems possible but actually does happen, still I got into it after awhile. The last couple of episodes seem to have picked up a bit.

Catching up with the thread, so this is late, but seriously how do you people have the time to watch stuff you acknowledge is crap?! I don't even have time to watch the stuff that I know is going to be great going in (Rectify, etc).

Also, there should be a warning for people looking for recommendations in this thread. A lot of people here watch crap due to nebulous reasons.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Good riddance. I'm loving done with it.

EDIT: And Jedi, that sort of pulling back thing is one of the many things wrong with SHIELD as well.

Shageletic fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Dec 12, 2013

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Fringe, even at it's worst, doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as SHIELD. For one thing the acting was of infinitely higher quality, and for another in Fringe the characters managed to be charming even when nothing was happening.

There is nothing even remotely as compelling in SHIELD as the cow in Walter's lab.

Exactly. Its especially eggrigrious to me since I'm going through Fringe season 1 for the first time (latched onto the show in its later seasons). Each episode, each act, has something cool and interesting in it propelling me to finish it. I guess what bothers me about AoS (if anything really bothers me about it) is the expectation that it has for its audience to pay attention when there is literally nothing on the screen worth watching, I guess on branding alone? Its pretty inept TV, run by people who wouldn't know drama if it bit them on the elbow. Like, why does this show exist?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Mu Zeta posted:

I think the music in Fringe is really irritating and too drat loud. I get that they are proud of Michel Giacchino but it just dominates all the time. Does the music need to swell so loudly when Olivia is just reading a newspaper article? I have the same complaint about Hannibal. It's too loving loud.

Yeah, had to mess around with the settings on my TV to lower that poo poo down and emphasize the voice acting, you kinda need every single syllable to actually figure what's happening in that show.

And of course I wasn't talking about Agents of Shield, instead I was talking about the hot new CBS show AOLSHIELD, where a down in his luck programmer tries to find love in the big city during the craaaazy days of the early naught's, while having his professional radon shielding grumpy father/roommate crashing the party. Coming this fall!

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Junkenstein posted:

I'm the same. I liked a lot of HoC's ingredients, but it didn't grab me and I just kinda stopped watching about halfway through. I didn't make a decision to stop, I just didn't feel the urge to watch the next episode, and after a few months passed, I just decided it wasn't for me. I think Veep and The Thick of It are more my kind of politics shows.

Both shows are pretty intelligent, not about politics per se, but dialogue wise? The loving best there is. gently caress!

So how's the current SNL going? Been liking the last couple of seasons and wondering how its faring with so many people leaving last year.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I dropped off from this current season of AHS a few episodes back, did it get good yet? I posted here about how uncertain the show could be but I couldn't get my interest back up in catching up.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Epi Lepi posted:

Buffy ended in Season 5 and then they made a random musical episode(that was awesome) for no reason. Nope, no seasons 6 or 7, didn't happen. Don't know what you're talking about. AND there certainly weren't any completely abysmal comics after the series ended.

The first half of S7 was the best the show had been since the third season. It kind of poo poo the bed after that, but I still have pleasant memories b/c of that.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Just want to say catching up on this thread has been like drilling something rusty into my frontal lobe.

But that cancellation video was great, especially for the mention of Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell. Fun little show, and I appreciate how kinda twisted it is. Definite recommend.

Is Newsreaders worth catching up on?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Last couple of days been watching Arrow (eight or so episodes in).

Surprisingly engaging action show. The writing isn't insulting, the tone isn't sophomoric, and the world and overall plot is enticing enough to zip to the next episode. Didn't think I would still be excited about this, this deep in. Some things I do worry about: the huge number of episodes in the season for what seems like a plot that doesn't merit (i.e. what's happening on the island, etc). And the large cast, giving an excuse to go into stupid dreary plotting.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Josh Lyman posted:

Watched Top of the Lake today. This was recommended in the aftermatch of The Killing season 1 as a better execution of a similar premise. At its peak, The Killing was the better show, but on balance, I would have to say it is a superior series, in no small part because it actually has an ending.

I haven't finished the first episode and I am ALL THE WAY IN. So much texture to it already, a world that seems deep, and characters I already have ridiculously strong opinions on. Happy to finally give it a shot. I think I might have Wire-d myself here (something universally praised irrationally making you hesitant to take it up yourself). A weird tic of mine.

Oh, and the Arrow season finale was good and fun. They don't seem to be too condescending to their audience, even if it does seem like a slightly cleaned up version of a good eighties action show. And I can't get enough of the whole anti-elite angle they have (helps to round the sharp corners of the superhero genre, whose morality can get pretty squishy). Being a comic nerd also helps with the appreciation I think.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I have to say TOP OF THE LAKE lost me a bit by the end. Kind of unceasing misery porn that made me dilly-dally on catching up on it. I liked the beginning, the idea of being immersed in this new country and setting, but I feel the mawkish and sensationalism made it a whole lot more conventional than I hoped it would be.

EDIT: Also PACIFIC RIM? What a miss.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

...of SCIENCE! posted:

I resisted Adult Swim's live-action stuff for a long time because I'm not into Tim & Eric and their assorts spin-offs, but it has gotten so so good. Eagleheart, The Heart She Holler, and The Eric Andre show are such pure unbridled wonderful insanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEz3c6ItG9Y

Been putting off getting into Eric Andre (even though I actually saw one of his shows, had to use other people as shields to avoid the mustard spray). But the Hannibal bits in it and other clips I just went through were golden. Is he in every episode?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

IDK, I just didn't think there were characters or arcs in Pacific Rim enough for it to be memorable. You can really feel how they scrunched this movie down from the three they intended.

And more about TV stuff, I'm doing my semi-annual marathon of Better Off Ted. Really doesn't get enough credit, might be one of my favorite comedies I can think of.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Orange is the New Black is hands down my favorite new drama of the year. Jesus Christ, I was so pissed off when it ended. I want to watch the next episode NOW.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Do you think they played it up though? The other characters just seemed to shake their head at the situation (and urge Piper to just kick her rear end). The shower scene was kinda off though.

Prison has a lot of people with pure impulse control and bad decision making. It'd be weird if things didn't sometimes get dire.

And I really am amazed by how much Piper worked as a character, not a caricture. Yes, she's kind of a cliche, but one that's understandable in how she got that way and super open to change depending on the circumstances, like anyone really.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Yeah, I get that the race stuff powered a lot of articles back when it first came out. I don't really see it, considering the show goes to pains to humanize a really large cast.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

zoux posted:

Between this and True Detectives, I'm wondering when Matthew McConaughey became a prestige actor :shrug:

Just look at his IMDB page. Lincoln Lawyer. Killer Joe (my favorite movie of that year). Bernie. Wolf of Wall Street. The guy can be basically depended upon to choose great roles and dominate a scene. Its a great turn.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

BarbarousBertha posted:

Regarding the bit under the spoiler, in a minimum security facility that is about what I would expect and I suspect part of the whole point the show is attempting to make if it is trying to make any larger point. There is a really weird disconnect between the parts of the show that put human faces on institutional racism and the parts that seem to argue that WASP ladies have it rough, too, darnit.

It was an enjoyable show in its own way. I ripped through it pretty quickly but now can't really remember why. I enjoyed Janeway speaking with Chekov's accent? The Reno 911 vibe from Pornstache Guard? Insomnia? Gaslighting Pennsyltucky? It certainly wasn't Piper, who is about as sympathetic as Martha Stewart. I think it definitely benefited from being a Netflix Original series since it was compelling enough to keep hitting the next episode, but airing week to week I doubt I would have remembered to keep up with it.

The fact that it puts a human face on people in these institutions is what I really loved about the show, the parts where the plot were incidental and it just focuses on these human interactions (like the Christmas Pageant and the scene where the latina woman comes back to prison after giving birth, and everyone in the cafetaria stops what they're doing to watch her go by, which about broke me). Things that might come off cliche, but because the show has spent so much time with these characters, and there so much levity and other different tones, it just comes off as wonderfully realistic. Ryan Mcgee does a better job of talking about it: http://notjusttvmcgee.libsyn.com/episode-10-thoughts-on-the-first-season-of-orange-is-the-new-black, but its these humanizing moments that will stick with me for a while.

Though its not perfect though, I remember being uncomfortable with the way they portrayed Alex (as a benign character) and one or two other characters, and things did veer into wacky arcs at times (all that poo poo with the chicken). But its still counts as one of the best Netflix experiences I can ever remember, tearing into this weird, wonderful show.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Side-stepping the hell out of this conversation, but what good shows are back from the winter break. Other than New Girl?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Never stop talking about Hannibal. Its great.

Been trying to power through Maron and failing miserably. Any other Pete Holmes guest appearances? He was one of the few glimmers of humor that I've caught so far.

Lastly, gonna go watch Borgen or The Americans. I don't really hear much talk around these parts around the former, and there was just something about the latter that made me push it towards the bottom of my NEED TO WATCH IMMEDIATELY list.

EDIT: VVV Dave Foley was fun, as are most of the guest comedians, and I hate to mimic the nerdy fans (since I am one), but the more show goes into his every day neurosis and self-indulgence, the less I check out. I just don't think its for me.

Shageletic fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jan 12, 2014

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I find Orange is the New Black to be more transgresive genderwise than either shows, but it doesn't nearly get the same amount of flack. Maybe because its just less well known?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

ufarn posted:

I don't know, I think it's awesome it has a trans* person on the show, but it'd definitely be great to have a show of diverse women not set in a prison system.

I meant progressive. As in having a cast made of 200 hundred women or so, and being entirely about their paths and tribilations. Thats pretty unique I think.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

precision posted:

Come on, I liked Juno (despite a few cringe inducing lines like "I BOUGHT A SONIC YOUTH ALBUM AND IT WAS NOTHING BUT NOISE") but Jennifer's Body really was just awful. Is there seriously anyone who enjoyed that piece of hot garbage?

This guy right here! Might have helped that I caught it at the Toronto Film Festival with the director in the audience, that tends to skew your reaction.

And really, Girls convo really does act like a lead balloon in this thread. The same people spouting the same opinions ad nauseum. Its really not fun to read.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

There's also this bit of FX news: FX orders comedy pilot from Zach Galifianakis and Louis C.K.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

That's underplaying how unlikely the prospects were that those things would ever make money. Yes, you had the shows on CBS in the 80s, but Marvel was just mined for initial inspiration, and those shows (Hulk, Thor, etc) didn't exactly last long.

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I'm hip deep in season two and I'm loving that as well. Love how much they commit to their insanity.

Speaking of things I come to lately, Portlandia. Surprisingly great! Thought it'd rely on stupid hipster tropes, but its got some really funny/smart things to say.

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