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Thursday Next
Jan 11, 2004

FUCK THE ISLE OF APPLES. FUCK THEM IN THEIR STUPID ASSES.
Looks like many of the whales are getting out.

https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/sometimes-it-can-be-just-the-little-things-that-push-you-a-little-too-far.54752/

The link is worth a glance, just to see that, yes, it's a full forum page of one guy's purchases in game. Dude spent probably $50,000 all up, now selling it all.

http://ultimacodex.com/2016/07/shroud-of-the-avatar-cult-of-spears-final-post-and-why-i-am-done-with-sota

Some other ladywhale quitting.

Seems most folks aren't too happy with the whole mess. What a sad, ugly ending to a possibility.

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Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
Can't say I sympathize for the guy when he bought those player owned towns when it was clear it would be a collection of Unity scenes that feel like Unity scenes and assets off the store.

FreeWifi!!
Oct 11, 2013

Okay, that's true. Good point, Marquess. Point for you. But you get a point taken away for being a dick. So, back to zero.

Thursday Next posted:

Oh, Node :(. I'm so sorry.

Happy launch day, folks.

Shroud Of The Avatar: Forever Alpha

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Alexander DeLarge posted:

Can't say I sympathize for the guy when he bought those player owned towns when it was clear it would be a collection of Unity scenes that feel like Unity scenes and assets off the store.

When you find a drum you beat the gently caress out of it.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
I know SotA isn't in any real competition with Pantheon, but in my mind they represent different design philosophies for the genre. SotA was supposed to be the thing that breaks conventional design and does something fun with it, while Pantheon would return to the old ways.

I really thought SotA would've been the winner, because doing new things sometimes improves the genre. Instead, we got another SC style whaling expedition that couldn't be bothered to remove the plastic wrap off the unity engine.

I mean, Pantheon could still go way off the rails, but so far their alpha footage nailed the feel of old EQ. It's scary to think they could end up being more successful than this game.

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
Even though the game is dog poo poo now, I'll revisit it in five years and see what's going on. Assuming Portalarium survives long enough to get more episodes out, I'd imagine they'll expand on what is keeping the community around (sandbox features).

Then again, the "game feels like Unity scenes put together with asset store packages" problem will never go away so it's kind of rotten to the core.

I wonder if people would trust RG with another crowdfunding campaign if he were to just go all in on a MMORPG.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
:smithicide:

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
:siren: Tomorrow is the big day guys :siren:
http://www.pcgamer.com/richard-garriotts-mmo-shroud-of-the-avatar-is-about-to-be-wiped-for-the-final-time/

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
So I have some house deed from the pledge I spent way too much on. Where is the premier real estate in this game so I can claim my lot an make people get mad?

Unctuous Cretin
Jun 20, 2007
LUrker
You probably can't place yet, depending on your lot selection tier. I got placed on the far side of August, but I only have a row lot. Player towns here I come!

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender

Unctuous Cretin posted:

You probably can't place yet, depending on your lot selection tier. I got placed on the far side of August, but I only have a row lot. Player towns here I come!

I have pretty much never played the game so I don't know what this means. I have "a Rent Free Village Level House Deed that you can pick up and place on any open Village lot in the game. This Village House proudly displays a special Founder Level plaque for all to see." What can I do with it?

Yes, I pledged an absurd amount to this game. Go ahead, pile it on. You can't hurt me more than I've already hurt myself.

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
I have an absurd amount of money put into this (I wanted those assets, don't judge me, I thought they'd at least create their own content) and I don't get to select a property until August 11th. Check your lot selection batch in your backer portal.

I'm a bit worried about not being able to actually use my waterfront property because they'll all be taken by people that have multiple deeds and spent $1,000+ on the game.

Mr. Pickles
Mar 19, 2014



Alexander DeLarge posted:

I wanted those assets, don't judge me, I thought they'd at least create their own content

But why, friend, WHY? If your gonna bump this trainwreck thread at least give us something amusing

oh wait, the waterfront one-liner was pretty funny

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
4 hours, who's gonna be playing at launch?

Nurel posted:

But why, friend, WHY? If your gonna bump this trainwreck thread at least give us something amusing

oh wait, the waterfront one-liner was pretty funny

I want my houseboat that I paid for.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender

Alexander DeLarge posted:

I have an absurd amount of money put into this (I wanted those assets, don't judge me, I thought they'd at least create their own content) and I don't get to select a property until August 11th. Check your lot selection batch in your backer portal.

Okay it looks like I'm Lot Selection Group 57, starts Aug 13, 2016 21:00 CDT. Then I can place a pretty house?

Alexander DeLarge posted:

4 hours, who's gonna be playing at launch?

Uhh sure! Do I choose a place to start or something?

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

Node posted:

Okay it looks like I'm Lot Selection Group 57, starts Aug 13, 2016 21:00 CDT. Then I can place a pretty house?


Uhh sure! Do I choose a place to start or something?

No, everyone starts at the same place. I don't know what to do since they've changed the introduction areas since I played for more than a couple minutes so if you want to meet up, we can do it at the town once you get into the overworld.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender

Alexander DeLarge posted:

No, everyone starts at the same place. I don't know what to do since they've changed the introduction areas since I played for more than a couple minutes so if you want to meet up, we can do it at the town once you get into the overworld.

I don't know what to do in this game either. In fact, people have not talked about the gameplay at all. They just talk about houses.

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
This month has focused entirely on polish so who knows. I thought that the game was pretty fun for a while, then they changed stuff that I didn't like (incredibly unrefined compared to what they had earlier) so hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.

I'm only getting 40FPS in the cities with really bad microstutter from assets loading in on my 1080 GTX. Sure, I'm running at 3440x1440 but I can do ARMA 3 @ 4K and get 100+FPS so this is bullshit. I'm moving the game to my SSD to see if that changes things, will report back.

Update: It still runs like poo poo but it runs slightly less lovely than it did

Add me if you're playing "Alexander DeLarge", I'll be in Soltown and on Discord's VOIP, made a channel for SotA if anyone wants to group up tonght.
https://discord.gg/WWJwcNw
Edit: I guess the patch goes out tonight, servers go up tomorrow.

Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Jul 29, 2016

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
the most exciting part of the evening was being in the same chatroom as Lord British

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
Been playing the newest build for the last hour (offline) and it looks better, performs better, plays better. I think there's finally fun to be had with this. I'll try to get enough gold to start up a guild (25,000) tomorrow when the servers go online.

Texibus
May 18, 2008
Is this game any good?

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

Texibus posted:

Is this game any good?

I think this is a good overview. It shows enough to give you an idea of whether you'll enjoy it or not. There's a lot of content here and the community is great (because of RG's involvement, not the game itself, if they've stuck around this long, I figure they'll be around forever).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYC0dHOqizU

Just keep in mind that it's unoptimized, not ARK level poor performance, but it certainly is a work in progress and has been since 2013. The areas feel like decorated Unity scenes and it was largely made using store-bought assets which I'd argue is the cause of poor performance. At least they've tried to use assets that are of a similar art style and level of detail.

There are significantly better games you can get for $45, but if you're really set on a sandbox MMO that won't wipe your progress, you're stuck with RuneScape/EVE/Gorgon/H&H2/private UO shards and this for now.

It's not good by any means though.

Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jul 28, 2016

Thursday Next
Jan 11, 2004

FUCK THE ISLE OF APPLES. FUCK THEM IN THEIR STUPID ASSES.

Texibus posted:

Is this game any good?

No.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Texibus posted:

Is this game any good?

No games are good. All games are bad.

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
15 minutes until launch, hop in Discord if you want to meet up.
https://discord.gg/dTMAJ

2DCAT
Jun 25, 2015

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Gravy Boat 2k
Lol if you're playing this bad game

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

2DCAT posted:

Lol if you're playing this bad game

It's sort of alright now.

boho
Oct 4, 2011

on fire and loving it

Texibus posted:

Is this game any good?

no

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Alexander DeLarge posted:

It's sort of alright now.

The narrative here is that all games are bad except perhaps overwatch but probably still that too. Please stick to the scripted narrative or our political sponsors will cut the funding.

If you actually DO like a game then for God's sake don't mention it at the convention.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
Okay instead of your class being decided by a gypsy in a caravan, it is this metallic face that asks you like five questions, and the answers are always Courage, Love, or Truth, each corresponding to Swordsmanship, Magery, and Archery. I WANT TO BE A HUMBLE SHEPHERD THIS IS DUMBED DOWN

Tempus Thales
May 11, 2012

Artwork by Tempus Thales
When this game was kickstarted I missed the opportunity to invest on it. Simply because it was richard garriot and it looked a lot like ultima... A couple of years later I tried the game in the form of a demo, and it made me think if this game had come out back when UO was the poo poo, it would have been GOTY or close at least. But at the time I played it, it made me cringe.

It's been now a couple of years since that time, and I the ads made it look like the game was launching or at least that is how i interpreted it. Anyways, because I have <More money, than Sense>, I went ahead thinking in 24 hrs id request a refund. To my surprise this time around I have been enjoying the aspect of the game. Like I said it's rough, but if you stick this lump of coal up your rear end in two weeks you will have a diamond, meaning the game grows on you. I have been enjoying the questing and dungeon questing aspect of the game.

I think if you have it on your account you should try it. Playing the game with other people is pretty fun... I highly recommend it... Alexander and I have been playing it nonstop and we hang at the Goon Discord - https://discord.gg/TYRh9uB

Tempus Thales fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Jul 29, 2016

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

Node posted:

Okay instead of your class being decided by a gypsy in a caravan, it is this metallic face that asks you like five questions, and the answers are always Courage, Love, or Truth, each corresponding to Swordsmanship, Magery, and Archery. I WANT TO BE A HUMBLE SHEPHERD THIS IS DUMBED DOWN

So if I answer all the questions as Love, but choose necromancy as a specialty, what does that say about me?

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
Day one report: Had a really rough start, started me off with bow skills for some reason, detrained them all while replacing the skills. Might end up being a stealthy holy/chaos paladin using polearms, loads of fun.

One of the passives is increasing polearm range (this is the maximum distance).


To compare, here's the maximum distance for sword and board plebs

Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Jul 29, 2016

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006
Just popping in to remind everyone that despite everyone saying it's "launching", the only thing that is launching is a promise we won't wipe your characters. The game isn't yet content complete at all and will not be for some time. If you want to hop on and mess around with the done parts such as the sandbox aspects, community, and building a trailer park, that's great! But calling it "launched" makes me drink heavily, and my liver would appreciate you not doing that. Thanks, you're swell!

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
But are there fetapults

FreeWifi!!
Oct 11, 2013

Okay, that's true. Good point, Marquess. Point for you. But you get a point taken away for being a dick. So, back to zero.

Lum_ posted:

Just popping in to remind everyone that despite everyone saying it's "launching", the only thing that is launching is a promise we won't wipe your characters. The game isn't yet content complete at all and will not be for some time. If you want to hop on and mess around with the done parts such as the sandbox aspects, community, and building a trailer park, that's great! But calling it "launched" makes me drink heavily, and my liver would appreciate you not doing that. Thanks, you're swell!

This is really sad..

Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You
Dr. Twister was right.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender

Freakazoid_ posted:

So if I answer all the questions as Love, but choose necromancy as a specialty, what does that say about me?

You unlock the secret Necrophiliac class.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
So in the path of courage tutorial, Battle of Highvale, this healer asks me to escort him to the dying knight. Naturally he doesn't follow me. I guess the sign saying the area is still under development means it. I hope that isn't important I guess.

e: I can't even exit Highvale, every time I go into Novia the game crashes on the loading screen. Done this three times in a row. Am I stuck in the tutorial forever? Oh well.

Node fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jul 30, 2016

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Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
I don't really get the sense of scale in this game. I went into the Soltown catacombs, went into three different zones and then all of a sudden I'm slightly North of Ardoris

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