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Green Crayons posted:Scarey hypothetical that equates a jury trial with a town meeting? I don't see the relevance other than to conjure up a boogeyman. A town meeting, much of the time, basically is a trial. Town ordinances can massively effect the population of the town, and often do functions such as zoning in areas too small/poor to have a dedicated staff. So, imagine if a Muslim goes to the town and asks that his ice cream business be allowed to be built in a residential area, an exemption, so that he can be closer to his Mosque; if the town opens up with "Jesus is our Lord and Saviour," do you think he will think he is being given a fair shake? Do you think the more religious Christians on the board will think differently if their religious differences are pointed out before such a case? Or how about a Doctor who wishes to open a clinic within the town, which focuses on reproductive services. A board member who might say yes to allowing the clinic to buy government land normally, could be influenced by such a prayer. 'Oh, but Pastor Bob said that condoms and birth control are sins Sunday morning. Good thing the prayer reminded me, or I might have forgotten!' Town meetings are incredibly important for the individuals and businesses who bring up items for discussion. And they tend to be very personal cases with a lot of detail thrown in. Having prayers before hand just muddles the water; at best, it is a neutral hand wave to local religious groups. At worst, it ruins livelihoods.
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# ¿ May 6, 2014 09:49 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 05:09 |
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VideoTapir posted:Yes Time to get my whiskeys and cokes ready.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2014 11:18 |
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:The 7th circuit basically ruled with only two months to the election that they could enact the law posthaste, loving anyone who hadn't gone to get an ID yet and couldn't make time before the election. That's too distasteful even for Roberts. On the other hand, they also blocked the injuction in NC that stops the Board of Elections from implementing our new voter ID law as well. So instead of taking effect in 2016 like previously told to us, this election is when we now how shorter early-elections, no one-stop registration/voting, and no cross-precinct voting. Just a month before the election The Voter ID still doesn't take effect until 2016, but what do you want to guess that the giant signs that say YOU NEED THIS ID TO VOTE IN 2016 (stupid poors) will turn away a bunch of voters this year, too, because the election judges are either incompetent or too racist to correct folks?
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2014 11:25 |
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Yeah, it frustrates me to no end that we have to walk some stupid line where execution doesn't damage the participants and yet is guaranteed NOT to be quick and painless for the condemned. Seriously. Just tell some random Goon to devise a code to lock a door at a specific time and turn off the ventilation. Tell them its for a medical quarantine cell if they ask whats it is for- technically correct. Have another random goon code in a machine to add in nitrogen. Give the guy in the cell a TV or book and some nervousness meds if he wants; hell, don't even tell him anything other than 'some time this month' and have him pre-record the 'final' statement. He doesn't freak out, there is no pain and the goon coders are completely oblivious that they killed a guy. vv More moral than killing them via medical torture. Slaan fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jan 25, 2015 |
# ¿ Jan 25, 2015 16:40 |
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Only if a one-liner is required to be said by the guard afterwards.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2015 16:53 |
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captainblastum posted:I'd disagree. Executions are completely immoral and indefensible, and tricking a person into executing someone adds another level of wrong to it. All of these goofy things like leaving a bullet out of one gun in the firing squad are because we know that killing someone is wrong - the correct solution to avoid committing that wrong is to stop killing people, not figure out some hosed up Rube-Goldbergian death scenario. I agree with you, guy. I was just making an example of a more humane method of killing people if we have to have it, to point out that the entire point really is just torture porn for the victims and blood thirsty conservatives. I would greatly prefer if executions stopped entirely.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2015 19:53 |
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Chokes McGee posted:Between her and Notorious RBG, it's truly a shame the best justices are being wasted on the worst court. Hopefully modern medical science will be able to clone dead people, memories and all, sometime within the next couple decades. Then we can raise up Chief Justice For Eternity Warren and keep the current women on the court to create The Justice League.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2015 17:24 |
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Beamed posted:Yeah, if anyone knows more about this, please tell me, I'd like to learn. Yeah, the Lebanese are everywhere in west Africa for some reason. A large number of importers, especially for western clients and the local wealthy/powerful, are owned by them. So grocery stores, electronics dealers and cars are heavily Lebanese. Which is totally fine with me because they brought shawarma with them.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2015 22:03 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:It's real. Scalia is dead. If it's true I hope the best for his family, even if he was a horrible human being. Obama, time to step up your game and nominate yourself. President Joe Biden
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2016 23:07 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Has Obama got any candidates that use a wheelchair? That might do it. Bob Dole asks you to ask Bob Dole about what having a wheelchair does for causes that guys like Bob Dole support
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2016 15:04 |
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EwokEntourage posted:I think in some states, if the state refuses/declines to pursue the manner, private parties can sue on the behalf of state citizens? Not sure. NC has been doing it this way. Our AG Roy Cooper has refused to defend/sue a bunch of things, so governor mcjerk has been letting private groups make the case instead.
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# ¿ May 20, 2016 18:34 |
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Rygar201 posted:The Senate can do anything it wants in five minutes or less, with unanimous consent. If Cruz feels like being a dick, things take longer. When doesn't he?
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2016 14:38 |
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IIRC Alabama basically has no laws. They just amend the constitution every time they want to do something.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 18:08 |
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Barudak posted:I don't know, but now I plan to take over a small country, petition for US statehood, and find out. Well, nobody is stepping up for UK's Prime Minister position. They might just be desperate enough...
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 03:48 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:What's the Buck's case ? From hearing it on the radio this morning: Buck was convicted of murdering his girlfriend and trying to murder his step-sister, but during the sentencing hearing, he was sentenced to death in part because his own defense lawyer had an expert witness say he would too dangerous to live because Buck is black A few years ago, another very similar case like this from Texas hit the Supreme Court. The SCOTUS granted a new sentencing hearing to that inmate and said Texas should look at giving a new sentencing hearing to 6 other cases where the above lovely lawyer/witness was used. This included Buck's case. Eventually, all of these cases had a new sentencing trial except for Buck. For some reason, all of his petitions were denied. So now Buck went all the way to SCOTUS to get a new sentencing trial. The consensus from today's oral arguments is that Buck is certainly going to get a new sentencing trial because even the Conservative justices think his Buck's trial was hosed up bad. The point of contention is whether they'll just grant Buck a new hearing or whether to smack down the Texas courts and Federal circuit for being idiots- those two court systems have denied 10x the number of appeals and relief hearings than other court systems, for instance.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2016 22:05 |
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It was bell curve poo poo. The sentencing hearings in Texas need proof of future likelihood of danger/violence for a death sentence to be given out. The psychologist that the DEFENSE lawyer brought in said that black men are statistically likely to commit crimes in the future. The prosecution of course lept on this, which got Buck the death sentence, because black men will totally kill again you guys! Look at the bell curve! ! !
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2016 14:42 |
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From what I've been reading on lawfare the last couple days, the president can't be prosecuted until he is out of office. He's basically immune to everything until congress decides to impeach him, because who knows, maybe shooting someone on fifth avenue was essential for national security; only congress can decide if that's over the line or not. However, the statute of limitations don't start counting until the president is out of office. So he can be charged with violating all those laws once he loses an election or is removed from office by congress. And at that point he would not have presidential pardon powers.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 17:44 |
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Fraction Jackson posted:99% of the time that would be the case, but we might actually be in the other 1% if the NY AG investigation produces any charges. Trump wouldn't be able to do anything about those at all, so it would lead to the question of whether a sitting President can be prosecuted for state charges, at least. Grant was arrested for speeding in DC several times. So there is a small amount of precedent for that
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2017 01:43 |
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Platystemon posted:The solution I seek is healing the damage done by the red storm. Perhaps the solution is a red storm though
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2017 01:51 |
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I can see the liberals granting a stay, knowing they are going to overturn the Wisconsin etc maps. Why make them draw a new map in PA now when they are going to set up new targets/goals for legal maps like a month or two later?
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2018 19:42 |
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Even if there is an artistic component to baking cakes, it doesn't even enter here tbh. There is no difference artistically in writing ADAM LOVES JIM and ADAM LOVES GEM. It's just exchanging names. Even the cakes aren't that expressive! Even the insane ones that include aquariums or put strippers inside to jump out or are life sized Corvettes are giving the same message: X and Y love each other and have interest Z they want people to know about. You bake the cake for everyone or nobody.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2018 23:21 |
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Taerkar posted:Are the Insular Cases still uncorrected? Yep. Samoans are still "Non-citizen US Nationals" because of those cases
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2018 22:01 |
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And then "in a 5-4 decision" the court held that "lol gently caress you libs"
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2018 14:17 |
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ilkhan posted:The last ruling was strictly about CO deliberately going after him. If they take this repeat as an afront the ruling will be far more broad this time. Absolutely. But that was to get Kennedy to sign off on it. The result was too narrow and punty to be otherwise. With Kavanaugh? I think they'll make an actual holding- against the transgender person.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2018 17:35 |
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All that effort and Soros money to make Scalia's death look natural, wasted
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2018 15:30 |
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Yes. Except that republicans really think that it will depress minority and immigrant response rates on the census, which means they get under counted. They live in heavily democratic areas, cities and big states, for the most part, and funding/representation in Congress is tied to the population of a state/ area. So by depressing census response in democratic voting areas, it means democrats get less power in Congress despite having a greater population in the US in general
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2018 02:19 |
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The courts just ignoring blatant bad faith by the police, politicians, agencies, the president, etc is one of the most infuriating things in modern law.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2018 02:37 |
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Huh, i actually agree with Thomas on that ladt case. Doesn't happen too often
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2019 17:45 |
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The VRA was enacted after they stopped asking the question
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 17:32 |
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Sydin posted:Kavanaugh strikes me as the kind of guy who'd go out and buy a $1000+ bottle of scotch to impress somebody, then once he got home finish it off in a night by mixing it with diet coke. Not quite. Someone else trying to
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2019 16:21 |
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The racist, rapist, extremely wealthy, slaving aristocrats that set up our government to interfere with other people but not them wouldn't want to fix problems for those people. Therefore, we rule that driving the bus off a cliff is constitutionally valid and essentially required
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2019 11:34 |
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Well if there is one thing that will guarantee* 0 Republican votes to convinct in the Senate, it's RBG's seat opening up *Not that there was a chance anyways
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2019 18:27 |
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Cops already can commit murder and get away with it, no Federal protections needed. It just makes it even harder than normal
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2020 01:49 |
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People tied their names to poo poo opinions like Korematsu, Trump v HI, Terry, etc. Wouldn't really change anything going forward if per curiam was no longer allowed. They'd still continue to churn out horrible rulings one after another
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2020 01:19 |
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skull mask mcgee posted:Glad to see my state eating poo poo in that copyright case. Also, Alito is still a terrible human being
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2020 19:46 |
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Oh this guy is center right and 30 years old. Sounds like a good compromise to me *Is surprised that 6-3 majority strikes down voting laws that don't require the white land owning electorate the founders wanted*
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# ¿ May 6, 2020 19:25 |
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"Once the election is over the Republicans will calm down and start negotiating in good faith again" - Biden & Schumer, probably
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# ¿ May 9, 2020 00:04 |
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Yep. And the federal agency that is supposed to act as an insurance agency for failing pension plans? It's running out of money, fast, and you know Republicans won't vote to save it because that'd be helping unions and spending money
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2020 13:55 |
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Glad to know that loving over prisoners still has bipartisan support
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2020 17:13 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 05:09 |
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ilkhan posted:The court is supposed to rule on the text of the law. The text is very clear in this case. Doesn't stop them when they care enough. See: Trump v Hawaii
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2020 18:19 |