SCOTUS 2023: Rice pilaf from Louisiana...is that like an ISIS video?

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Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

College students are allowed to vote where they go to school.

They can vote wherever they identify their "home" as. If that is in their college town, cool. Even if they plan on moving later, they can still vote there so long as that is their home and residence now.

EDIT: Just think about this in terms of a general requirement. If I plan on moving in a month, can I vote in an election? Surely I can go and exercise my political rights. Why would a student's intentions be any different?

Here in Jersey you have the right to vote in any election you want anywhere you want, the crux of the problem is that if it gets challenged you will have to vote paper provisional or if it gets crosschecked and if you already voted somewhere else it won't count. You have to be given at the very least an absentee ballot and the opportunity to fill it out and submit it....from there it's the Judge's decision whether it counts.

Yuzenn fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jun 27, 2015

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 11:46

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Dead Reckoning posted:

You don't get to tell people what their religious beliefs are.

If a Baptist walked into a Jewish bakery and requested a cake with a large cross and "Christ is Lord above all others" piped on it, you think the bakery should be forced to make it?

From the decision: "One of the difficulties in this case is that the parties disagree as to the extent of the baker�s refusal to provide service. If a baker refused to design a special cake with words or images celebrating the marriage�for instance, a cake showing words with religious meaning�that might be different from a refusal to sell any cake at all. In defining whether a baker�s creation can be protected, these details might make a difference." Masterpiece claimed they would sell off-the-shelf goods or custom birthday cakes to gay people, but not custom wedding cakes for gay weddings. For example, if a straight person came in and said, "I would like to commission a cake for my son's gay wedding", they would reject that request.
The idea that artists don't endorse the underlying message of their work is farcical. An artist or other person engaged in expression should not be compelled to promote messages they disagree with. If a WBC member went into a print shop owned and run by LGBTQ people and wished to commission a banner and flyers reflecting his belief that homosexuality is sin and death, should they be forced to design and print them?
The cake maker sits down with each couple and discusses their wedding, theme, etc in order to design and execute a unique cake in cooperation with the couple.

The fact that people in Colorado keep suing this same bakery for refusing to provide "transition celebration" cakes, etc. doesn't bode well for the argument that this is about LGBTQ people being denied public accommodation, rather than forcing people to do endorse things contrary to their religion.

In that case couldn't you reject any service under the auspice of a religious belief? There can't be any sort of test for what is a true religious belief so basically you can refuse any work for any reason to discriminate, no?

"I don't like blacks" could also be a religious belief. This can go to the extremes pretty fast.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2019 16:17

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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FacebookEmpathyMom posted:

That�s entirely fair, but Clarence Thomas is the oldest and he�s only 71 so he�s got almost a full two terms before he hits life expectancy, and given he has rich and powerful people healthcare I�m not sure I�d hold my breath. Scalia was horribly unhealthy looking and still made it almost it 80.

This is true, but at least it's in play. A D win with an incumbent D repeat at least puts this within reach.

# ¿ May 14, 2020 02:41

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Sodomy Hussein posted:

They are already scaremongering about gun control because it's clear from the protests that Black Panther groups are reconstituting.

Those "black panthers" were likely paid actors but I wish we would have a real presence like https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/07/michigan-lawmaker-armed-escort-rightwing-protest, we'd end the gun control conversation in a day if we all actually exercised our rights publicly.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2020 15:13

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Gatts posted:

What is the possibility of Thomas and Gorusch not aligning with the crazy right and instead protecting Roe vs Wade and all this is just manufactured meat for the base

Thomas is a 0% and Gorusch is kinda of a wildcard but i'd have the chances at sub 50% but certainly not 0

# ¿ Sep 22, 2020 20:38

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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vyelkin posted:

I mean the "going forward" question is, if Biden wins and there's a Democratic Senate, should Breyer retire? Or is it more important that he stick around to write spicy dissents once the Democrats lose power again?

I think it's absolutely fair to criticize RBG for not retiring when the Democrats could replace her. It was obviously something politically-engaged people were grappling with in 2013 (when Obama and Reid could have replaced her), since that's when there was a wave of pro- and anti-retirement articles about her, but it's also obviously something she rejected, and now we're paying the price for that. The big question going forward is, are the Democrats going to learn from this and use power while they have it the way the Republicans do, or are they going to hold on to principles like "Supreme Court justices should stick around as long as they want even if it means we lose their seat when they die in it" when that's now been proven to be a really stupid strategic move?

I think that the political climate and norms are way different than before 2016 so i'm going to throw her a little bit of bail here.

However, saying you want to be the longest serving woman justice of all time before 2016 happens and then hitching your wagons on being replaced by Hillary (which i'm going to go out on a limb here and just think that's what she believed what her future would be) was an incredibly risky move that led us to our current situation. Could she had known this would happen, the eroding of all the norms and fascism taking hold this quickly? Nope. Could a octogenarian with years worth of cancer diagnoses realize that at some point she may leave the court not on her own terms, leading to a power struggle regardless of who was president? Absolutely. She should have weighed what she wanted to happen vs what could happen; the latter option having so many negative outcomes up to and including the end of the union , that alone should have made her hedge her bets.

She was a very smart woman and should have at least realized that if her gamble was wrong, that it could cause irreparable harm to everything she fought for. Nothing she did is irreversible by a conservative court backed by republican enablers and extremists. There is a level of hubris that she is guilty of having here by putting the prospects of her own legacy before what she was actually fighting for, in the end.

Yuzenn fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Sep 24, 2020

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Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Rigel posted:

The hearings are not even necessary. The GOP can just simply go straight to the vote if they wanted, and they would if for some reason they had to.

And no, there is not a chance in hell that there's an old Dem Senator willing to publicly trash their reputation like this, even if we might be cheering them on our message board.

You know, "decorum", while our nation gets subverted by foreign interest and rising fascism and is on the precipice of irreversible damage.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2020 22:42

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Evil Fluffy posted:

Death to decorum.

This is a strange allegory to the way nature works, senescence is required for humans because at a certain inflection point your cells have just about a 100% chance of becoming cancerous given enough time; so just like how we must die or get overwhelmed by cancer, we really need to be purged of the cancer of all these drat olds who are far beyond their cognitive ability to serve. This goes for all government posts, not just unique to Senate and/or SC.

# ¿ Oct 16, 2020 16:18

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Primarying a sitting president is always a pipe dream. I don't believe it has ever worked in the history of the Republic and on the rare occasions it has even come close it has guaranteed a loss in the general election. Incumbency just has too much inertia behind it.

I think the larger possibility is that hes physically unable to handle the rigors of a presidential run in 24 - the man is barely cogent as is

# ¿ Dec 8, 2021 16:59

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I mean, four years ago I thought Trump would be an alzheimer's vegetable by now

If you inject and consume enough uppers to kill a horse into yourself daily you can prop up most corpses to be honest

# ¿ Dec 8, 2021 17:08

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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JesustheDarkLord posted:

The court will trend back to 5-4 but things will go one step farther. Extra votes on the court are a resource that can be spent

When will this be? It's getting increasingly likely that one or more justice could retire or die before 2028

Since I think we get walloped in 2024 with R Presidency, Senate and House, it's much more likely that we are 6-3 or worse for a long time

# ¿ Jan 27, 2022 16:55

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Nucleic Acids posted:

Anything at all.

^This 1000%

There was a time when a president could put political pressure on things to be done

But recently our democratic presidents have chosen to sit on the sidelines even though the opposite side will dig in its heels to stop and if possible reverse anything remotely progressive.

Obama's failings, which Biden completely commiserates with are with the fact that they somehow believed that the GOP would be good actors and that his own party would work in lockstep enough to get change done.

The political landscape is such now: while we have the presidency and ANY chambers (both help), we have to attempt to do as many big progressive agenda items as we can and put in protections to our most core rights as a nation. At the very least if not to making undoing them a much more difficult task for the GOP - they've moved lightning fast when they have power and since the Court will be skewed in their favor for the next generation, the window is almost closed to having them as a tool in the toolkit.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2022 16:56

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Evil Fluffy posted:

Literally anything other than sit back and allow the SCOTUS to continue to assert itself as unquestionable philosopher kings who can issue rulings that ignore their constitutional limitations or that such rulings should be followed simply because the SCOTUS deemed it so. The SCOTUS issues rulings that everyone knows are purely political and in some cases outside of their authority and the Democrats do... nothing. Obama sat back and watched Roberts and co gut the VRA, knowing their authority to override Congress was questionable at best and that it was a nakedly political power grab and he simply did not care because he's at best a feckless coward and at worst gives no fucks because he knows he'll have the wealth and power to be unaffected by it.

I'm not saying Clinton should've arrested the SCOTUS for their ruling in Bush v. Gore, even though it was effectively a judicial-lead coup, but Obama would have been absolutely correct to respond to Shelby County with "while the SCOTUS has made its opinion known, Congress has ultimate authority in these matters and decided on near-unanimously reauthorizing the VRA just recently and so the DoJ will continue to enforce it in full" or something to that effect. Would it have caused a shitload of strife? Yes. Would it have been less than what the country is building up to? Absolutely.

Biden's just especially noteworthy in his worthlessness because he also doesn't even pretend to want to fulfill campaign promises he could unilaterally act on and instead uses Congress as his excuse for those as well as everything else.

Agree with this completely - whatever happened to "do(ing) the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win, and the others, too"?

And yes, I understand that rhetoric and practice are more misaligned than aligned but there can't be the attitude of "oh well can't get it done" by an office in which its powers have not yet proven to have limits. Trump's presidency was an exercise in "let them stop me from doing it" and only because he's completely incompetent, were the other thin veneers of checks and balances able to keep him from completely dismantling what we have left. What he did do though was set into motion the stage for complete neutering of progressive agendas for decades, and made it so we have to fight for rights we ALREADY have and need to protect in the face of needing some very important changes in our lives.

It is completely unclear about what the President CAN'T do at this point, honestly. He commands the military and all federal functions - Congress is so ineffective that even in the face of blatant impeachable and honestly criminal conduct, the apparatuses we have been unable to act - mostly because they might just not have the ability to curtail that office's power.

With that said though, Biden certainly has a ton of ability to outright instruct the federal apparatuses how he chooses but he has chosen not to - for example, there's no reason why he hasn't wiped away federal student debt. He's just chosen not to, and the same can be said for being more forceful about protecting the VRA.

And as Evil Fluffy said, if people get up and arms about it and there's strife related to it, then so be it, but we can't stop doing good things because it will be difficult or that a section of the public will have an issue with it. If that was the case we would have never had made the progress in civil rights that we have - that had to come kicking and screaming and continues to be dragged kicking and screaming.

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# ¿ Feb 17, 2022 19:40

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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GoutPatrol posted:

Well the hell scenario is if he somehow falls into a Schivao-esque comatose state, leading towards obstruction on a new justice being added to the court to replace him.

I volunteer as tribute to pull the plug my drat self

# ¿ Mar 24, 2022 21:20

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Rust Martialis posted:

Dissent by THOMAS, J.

MY ORIGINALISM WON'T ALLOW FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THE COUR....

MALFUNCTION

Rebooting (brought to you buy foxnews)

# ¿ Apr 7, 2022 20:04

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Liquid Communism posted:

It's the little things.

People without institutional power may not be able to take away his job, but good luck getting good service anywhere ever again. Or going out in public without being hassled.

Sometimes, it's the big things

RFK got a heavy dose of innuendo about violence in the streets over him and his brother's waffling on the VRA.

I feel like Obergefell would be another watershed moment in this regard...not sure how quietly the populace would take to such a stark reversal of what essentially is a societal norm

I do not weep for a court that seeks to undo our democracy and has negative interactions with the very people that they clamor to strip the rights of. I sincerely hope no place is comfortable for them.

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Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

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Can someone ELI5 the mental gymnastics of this court?

Didn't they just pause this a day ago?

https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1770155917515886822?s=20

# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 20:17

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