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Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Geez, couldn't you wait until midnight or something?

Whatevs, I'm reposting here.

Thorn (July 15 and 19, 1983)



Yeah, this is pretty weird

Nina's Adventures (November 5, 1993)


THE LAST Fluff (November 26-28, 1998)




Throughout the latter 2013, I've been posting "Fluff", and, well, it's over. These are final three strips.

And how appropriate that it got posted on the last day of the year. "Nina's Adventures" did get revived in 1999, but it was short-lived. Paley ended it because it didn't attract many papers like it did before. She found solace in animation, doing numerous short films before getting famous with "Sita Sings the Blues", which gained notoriety over the use of Annette Hanshaw's music without permission (she thought they were public domain). As a result, she had to pay thousands in royalties. This incident resulted in Paley becoming an anti-copyright activist, which was how I was able to get all of her comics.

Hopefully enough people enjoyed it. I know Paley's comics (and Nina Paley herself) are polarizing.

Lucky Cow (January 29-31, 2004)


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Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Okay, now I can put up proper summaries.

Thorn (July 22 and 26, 1983)
Okay, so you know Bone by Jeff Smith? Well, before all of that, when he was a college student at Ohio Student University, he drew a (semi) daily strip for its student paper, The Lantern, called Thorn, which ran 1982 to 1985. It's basically a primitive version of Bone and a lot of the gags and story elements got recycled in the comic books.

There are also differences from the comic book version. Jeff Smith himself makes appearances as a character, and it's also pretty darn preachy at times, trying to be Pogo. However, the artwork does notably improve, especially by the end.

It's generally story-heavy, but the current strips ran during the summer, when most student went back home, so it's pretty much standalone gags for now.




Nina's Adventures (October 29, 1993)
This strip was drawn by Nina Paley, who is nowadays famous for her independent animated film Sita Sings the Blues. . It's basically a autobiographical strip, mostly focusing on her crappy love life and other going-ons. Nina's a bit of a nutcase, holding insane opinions that no normal person holds. It's also artistically well-done, which is why I'm posting them.

The strip ran in Santa Cruz Comic News and other alt-weekly papers during the 1980s and 1990s. She temporarily put it on hiatus in 1997-1998 so she could focus on her syndicated strip Fluff, which I posted the entirety of in the 2013 thread. She restarted it in 1999, but due to the lack of interest from editors this revival was short-lived. She started doing animation with Flash, creating numerous short films, as well as her aforementioned "Sita". Currently she's an anti-copyright activist, having been screwed by them due to her using copyrighted music in "Sita" (she thought they were in public domain).



I won't lie, I side with Nina in this cartoon. That's pretty much what I want to do.

Lucky Cow (February 1, 2004)
"Lucky Cow" was drawn by Mark Pett, who also did a strip called "Mr. Lowe" in 1999-2000. It follows a fictional fast-food restaurant and their going-ons. The central characters are Gary (the manager), Claire (Gary's daughter, who absolutely hates working at the restaurant and doesn't keep it a secret), Elvin (assistant manager, basically a comic strip version of Hermes from "Futurama"), Leticia (worker; Claire's friend and a vegetarian), and Neil (another worker, incredibly naive. Gets bullied in school a lot).

The strip initially focused on Claire, but later on Neil pretty much takes over as the breakout character. "Lucky Cow" ran 2003 to 2008.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Cricken_Nigfops posted:

MM forgot to mention: All of these comic strips are terrible, completely and utterly terrible.

I like "Retail".

I'm being sincere. Not sarcastic in any way.

Manuel Calavera posted:

Mother Goose & Grimm started by Mike Peters in 1984, also featured in the Political Cartoons thread for his editorial strips. Aside from the titular Mother Goose & Grimm, we have Ralph the Terrier, and Atilla the Cat.

There was also a short-lived Saturday Morning cartoon written by Mark Evanier that had a pretty awesome theme song.

Mister Beeg fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jan 1, 2014

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Cricken_Nigfops posted:

Not to be combattive, but what do you like about Retail? The characters are all hateful, the art is pretty bland and always ALWAYS includes an eyeroll.

I will say in its favor that the linework is always clean and neat and sharp.

Truth to be told, the artwork was much better in the early years.

I guess it's because, well, I would do the same thing to some of the characters if I knew them. If I knew Josh (and I knew similar people like him), I would absolutely love to do what Cooper does to him. In short, kind of a revenge fantasy. Maybe that says something about what kind of person I am.

The other explanation I can think of is that I've been reading the strip since its debut (it started on New Years Day 2006, exactly 8 years ago) and I just stick around out of habit.

Mister Beeg fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jan 1, 2014

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Macaluso posted:

I'm not alone in really liking the art in Dustin am I? That last panel is really nice! I really wish the artist could put his art to good use in a better comic than Dustin. It really goes to waste in such a bad comic

You're not alone. Jeff Parker is a legit good artist.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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One page per day is fine with me.

I love reading these Moomin strips. As a kid, the only Moomin I was familiar with were the many anime shows done for Japanese television.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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cobalt impurity posted:

Honestly, everyone in the strip being an unlikeable poo poo heel is pretty accurate to a genuine retail environment. The biggest thing I like about "Retail" is that it accurately shows that everyone is mercenary as gently caress and will cut each other's throats for lateral promotions and pay raises that total less than 50 cents. And also the customers suck.

The strip could easily have been (and maybe was? only been reading it about a year) a predictable shlock where everybody is friends and it's Us vs. Them and boy these employees sure are a bunch of zaney cut-ups! Nope, everyone is a dickhead and serving their own means, even in ways that are petty and with no personal benefit.

It goes without saying that Norm Feuti used to work in retail.

There's a book by Feuti called "Pretending You Care: Retail Handbook". It's basically a satirical book disguised as a retail employee handbook, with scatterings of the strip from the first year or so, and it's loving hilarious. Lots of personal anecdotes from Feuti's time in retail.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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crowfeathers posted:

Dana Simpson is into some pretty weird poo poo, though; while she certainly seems to have realized Raine Dog was a bad idea she's still kind of questionable
It's her life. Let her live :shrug:

I remember Dana back when she was doing "Ozy and Millie". It was one of the early successful webcomics.

Here's a "Ozy and Millie" strip that Bill Holbrook drew as an April Fools switch in 1999. Dana drew "Kevin and Kell" that day, but it wasn't archived, apparently:

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Halibut Barn posted:

It's actually available in the Extras section of the K&K site:



Huh, so it is. Thanks!

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (July 26 and 29, 1983)



Yeah, Jeff Smith's appearing in the strip again.

Nina's Adventures (October 8, 1993)


Lucky Cow (February 2-4, 2004)


Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Going back to the "Retail" discussion, I figure I'd repost its crossover with "Dustin"

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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You know, all that talk about Li'l Abner in the last thread, I forgot to mention that there was a short lived series of animation done in 1944 for theatrical release by Columbia Pictures. Columbia had their own in-house animation studio called Screen Gems (they still use the name today on their horror films). The reason why you never heard about Columbia's animation (aside from UPA) while you may be familiar with Warner Bros., Disney, or MGM is because their cartoons aren't that good. While their cartoons are generally well-animated, they're wern't really funny, although they managed to make some that are amusing. At best, Columbia cartoons are just pure "WTF" for how drat bizarre many of them are. Their most popular series was the "Fox and Crow", which was one of the only things they got right :crow:

Screen Gems made five Li'l Abner cartoons. Apparently Al Capp wasn't pleased with how the cartoons came out, so further production was cancelled.

Anyway, here they are. The cartoons were all made in TechniColor, but due to Columbia being sucky at preserving their early short films, some of them only survive in black and white copies.

Sadie Hawkins Day
Kickapoo Juice (only survives in black and white)
Amoozin' But Confusin' (three minute excerpt)

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (August 2 and 5, 1983)


Look at all the shows Phoney lists. Man, early 1980s, right???

The local bookstore has all the Bone books. I should look into getting them soon.

Nina's Adventures (November 16, 1993)
:nms:Clicky clicky:nms:
Today's strip is rather...explicit

Lucky Cow (February 5-7, 2004)



Remember Atkins Diet??

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Green Intern posted:

That guy looks like a drat cyclops.

This is how I see him:

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Holy Molé
Here's another comic that I sometimes post. Holy Molé (pronounced "moley") is a comic strip by Rick Hotton that appears in numerous newspapers, magazines, and online publications. It's basically zen in comic strip form. The titular character is a mole who goes on a spiritual journey for enlightenment. Other characters include a wise old turtle, a cat who likes to lie around, some penguins, and others.

TL;DR version: It's a zen comic.





Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (August 9 and 12, 1983)



Nina's Adventures (December 5, 1993)


Lucky Cow (February 8, 2004)

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Tiggum posted:

Who reads comics in an actual printed newspaper?

7lip, apparently.

Thorn (August 16 and 19, 1983)



Nina's Adventures (December 6, 1993)

Just a reminder, Nina started "Fluff" about 5 years after this strip appeared.

Lucky Cow (February 9-11, 2004)



Given the fast food workers strike going on across the country...

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Plastino was hired as a backup artist for "Peanuts" just in case Schulz died from the surgery he was going through back in the early 1980s.

Turned out he didn't, so his strips were never used. Schulz himself didn't know about this until years later.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

There was a Little King cartoon; Thunderbean have a DVD of it. Any of the vintage cartoon buffs itt own a copy?

I don't have that particular DVD, but I do have other Thunderbean DVDs (the Private Snafu and the Noveltoons). Make no mistake, they're legit stuff. Steve Stanchfield is a godsend for restoring long, forgotten animation, and he should be commended for all the hard work he does.

In short, if you love old animation, get a Thunderbeans DVD.

Here's a Little King cartoon on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smGGfJ3KAC0

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (August 23 an 26, 1983)



Nina's Adventures (December 6, 1993)


Lucky Cow (February 12-14, 2004)


Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Dopefish Lives! posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLz7CKg6poA

Since people are posting animated renditions of The Little King, I thought people might be interested in this. It's a 1936 crossover short with Betty Boop. I saw this LOOOOONG before I ever knew that the Little King was a separate comic strip character.

Some of you may be familiar with "Betty Boop Meets Popeye the Sailor", the first animated appearance of Popeye, which was a hit, leading to the sailor getting a series of cartoons that ran into the late 1950s. The Fleischer Bros. were hoping to duplicate the success with other comic strip characters, so they did films where Betty interacts with Henry (who was billed as "The Funniest Living American", which is a total bullshit), Little King (who was already animated years before by the Van Beuren studio), and Little Jimmy. None of them took off and the idea of animating other comic strip characters was dropped.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Some Guy TT posted:

Please tell me we're done with this. Maybe it's just because I read the Political Toon Thread, but any humor here is sucked out by the fact that I know there's people who believe this is literally true.
Yeah, it's just a one-week thing.

DEAD MAN'S SHOE posted:

I like autobio comics because they give you a window onto another person's world view and, kind of like therapy, there are potentially a lot of interesting layers and self-contradictions to consider. Nina's World is not a great piece of work but I also enjoy (in addition to the really fun art and the general rarity of a woman's perspective in cartooning) the bluntness of Paley's work if only as a counterpoint to, say, Walt Kelly's well-crafted but fundamentally shmaltzy repackaging of an editorial cartoon in Pogo.
Autobio comics are a hit-or-miss to me, although I like some (I'm a fan of Keith Knight, for example). I know I make fun of Paley's opinions, but at the same time I do find it refreshing because she's just so blunt about what she thinks. Also, very little comics posted here are drawn from a woman's POV, so there's that, too. In short, I agree with your post.

For what its worth, I started skipping strips that focus on Nina's love life. Some sneak through, but otherwise I skip them.

Mister Beeg fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jan 6, 2014

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Wanamingo posted:

Guess I'll repeat my question from earlier, does anyone know if there's an archive of Oh, Brother anywhere? Google isn't turning up anything for me, and I want to get in on that sweet, sweet posting reruns of old comics business.
I have 25 weeks worth of dailies on PDF format. Will that do?

They're in black and white, though.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (September 20-22, 1983)



We are now in the Fall 1983 semester.

Nina's Adventures (October 15, 1993)

Nina has her playful side.

Lucky Cow (February 15, 2004)

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Darthemed posted:

Barkeater Lake is about a young woman who moves from NYC to a small town. It started off the year with a visit from Satan (no, really), but seems to mainly be about this small dog named Banksy.

Man, I used to read that strip all the time. I should consider posting that regularly.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (September 29-30, 1983)



Nina's Adventures (October 22, 1993)


Lucky Cow (February 16-18, 2004)




Remember when music CDs used to be a thing?

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Some Guy TT posted:

Comics (November 15th 2006)

No Doonesbury today. There's a spot for it, just no actual image file to download.

Here's that day's Doonesbury

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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I rarely bought CDs, but then again, I hardly seek out music to begin with. I do occasionally listen to vinyl, though (an old collection of my dad's).

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Looks like Gilchrist is on vacation. Note the 2011 copyright date.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (October 4-5, 1983)



A Russian pig. This strip really is weird.

Nina's Adventures (October 31, 1993)


We all get old.

Lucky Cow (February 19-21, 2004)




Strip 1: I had to look up what "greasing his palms" mean. I wonder if bribing is common in fast food.

Strip 2/3: Incidentally, "Lucky Cow" did break the Guinness World's Record for the World's Largest Comic Strip

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Mr. Squishy posted:

Nina Paley's friends with Ted Rall, right?

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Midnight Moth posted:

It's signed by both of them so presumably it was a collaborative effort.

Yeah, both artists drew that strip. That's how Ted's cartoons looked at the time.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (October 6-7, 1983)



Nina's Adventures (December 10, 1993)


Lucky Cow (February 22, 2004)

Okay, so I rearrange the words as BURGER - SODA - OIL - BUN - SHAKE, but I'm having trouble figuring out the name of the movie.

Mister Beeg fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 10, 2014

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thanks!

I should have expected a corny pun.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Fistula!?

Sounds like a porno name...

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Traditionally pantomime strips sold poorly in newspapers because they were considered disposable. Since they look less time to read, readers wern't as invested as strips with dialogues and very few would complain if the papers dropped it.

"Lio" is one of the few that became popular.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Thorn (October 11-12, 1983)



Nina's Adventures (November 10, 1993)

Gotta agree with Nina. Public transportation could use improvement in the 'States.

Lucky Cow (February 23-25, 2004)


Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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Darthemed posted:

Calvin And Hobbes

I believe this is the only time Susie got a strip to herself.
No, I remember that there were two or three other strips that only featured Susie.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

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TIMG that, Transmodiar!

Also, I think the best part about that edit is that the mom is only slightly disturbed.

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Thorn (October 13-14, 1983)



Nina's Adventures (November 15, 1993)


Lucky Cow (February 26-28, 2004)


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