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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


CapnAndy posted:

I cannot wait for the Expanded Universe to get loving dynamited into dust and never spoken of again.

That's understandable in most cases, but Dark Horse's comics are unquestionably the best EU stuff out there. Legacy is like the best Star Wars-related thing in the past decade or so. It's a shame they're losing the license, but I'm also kind of excited to see what Marvel's going to do with it.

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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Not sure why people are so rabidly anti-EU. Most of it is dumb, but such is the case with every piece of licensed fiction. Some of it is also pretty good, particularly the comics. Either way, it's mostly harmless, and has done way less damage to that franchise than Lucas himself has.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Metal Loaf posted:

Republic is better than Legacy. It's from the same creative team.

I disagree, but yes, Ostrander/Duursema do quality work.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Is there any merit to an Image-specific thread? I mean if Valiant has one, I think Image could support it, too. There are still a bunch of books that never get discussed around here, like Five Ghosts. I just find it kind of hard to keep up with what they're doing, but I guess maybe that's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Or is it Sputnik posted:

For a non-US person (and probably some US ones as well), the Golliwog, Minstrel, Pickaninny and Mammy caricatures aren't very well known. I realized this when Scandinavia started playing the restored version of "From all of us to all of you" for the first year 2012. This show is a big deal in Scandinavia and has been on tv every Christmas Eve for 50 years, same bat-time, same bat-channel. In the restored version Disney cut some content, namely the pickaninny doll and another toy that looks a lot like a jew caricature, crooked nose and all. Most people here don't know that the doll is a racist caricature through and through and wondered why "the black doll" was removed, and why television companies were budging to "political correctness".

That's interesting. I'm from Denmark, and I would have watched it that year had I known about the restored version. Do you know if it's available online anywhere?

I get the feeling most people here definitely know about those stereotypes, they just don't care. We're pretty lax about politically incorrect imagery in Denmark, even today (see: Muhammad drawings), so we also tend to be more open about it in our society, for better or worse. Same goes for stuff like porn.

Seriously I heard a radio ad a few months ago that was basically one step away from going "ching chong chinaman". A few years ago our main national network aired a talk show titled "*N-word* TV".

Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jan 12, 2014

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Oh yeah, it's a huge problem. Over the christmas break, my entire family went on a collective rant about how Islamic people do nothing but complain, but IF WE SAY ANYTHING the hammer drops. It was loving gross.

It's true we don't have the historical context, but I definitely think most people would knowingly feel wrong/uncomfortable defending that poo poo in front of a black person. Maybe I'm just fortunate since my cousins are black, so I have some idea of how it feels.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Waterhaul posted:

Well from a few interviews I've read that was Moore's point with Neonomicon. He was hired to do Lovecraft stories so he pretty much shoved every Lovecraft cliche and plot point into the one book.

Maybe it's from something I haven't read, but I don't remember any rape in Lovecraft's stories, unless you're talking about allegorical rape. Racism, sure, but not any kind of sexual assault. I always felt like Lovecraft (deliberately) shied away from that sort of thing in favour of the existential.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Ah yes, I forgot about the marriage aspect of Innsmouth. Never mind, comment withdrawn.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Oh, yeah, Jack Kirby is the guy who drew that Avengers #4 cover where Cap looks like a bucktoothed monkey? Pfft, gently caress that guy.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Madkal posted:

Seeing as all I really know is Marvel and DC and the people who/write draw for them, I am looking to expand my horizons a little bit. I have been reading some Image titles Saga, Sex Criminals, Lazarous, Prophet) but that is mostly because I know of the people writing/drawing those comics. I fear though that there might be a whole range of good stuff out there that I don't know about so can some people throw me some recommendations from other authors/artists/titles outside the big 2 please?

Orc Stain.

Read Orc Stain.

No, seriously. Do it. Read Orc Stain.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Rhyno posted:

I have a TMNT mega thread half put together but I don't know if there's enough people actually reading the book to warrant a whole thread.

I'm going to pick it up as well. You might be right, but I think it could work. IDW has been releasing really good stuff as of late. I picked up the first classic collection not too long ago, and this would be a good excuse to finally read it.

Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jan 30, 2014

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Lurdiak posted:

I'm literally never going to read Orc Stain just because of that two-page thing about cutting up dicks to make them into currency someone posted years back. I know it's not representative of the usual content of the book, and I know it was just an extra in a single book, but I just ain't want to read no comic that has dick-cutting instructions attached to it.

I don't think that's actually in the single issues, 'cause I've never seen it. It might be a trade-only thing.

But yes, cutting off dicks is a major plot point in that book regardless. I still think it's the single best comic of like the past 5 years. The only bad thing about it is that James Stokoe is becoming the George RR Martin of the comics world in terms of how long it takes for him to put out new poo poo.

Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 31, 2014

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Soonmot posted:

I've got to agree. Outside of whatever is going on in GBS, what's the cause of all this "sky is falling" nonsense?

GBS has always been a loving mess, but the rest of the forums seem unchanged to me. Of course, I also never engage in any of the SA-specific stuff like FYAD or YOSPOS or whatever.

The idea of dumping BSS for some arbitrary "the forums are dying" reason seems ludicrous to me. This is easily my favourite part of the site.

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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Waterhaul posted:

There's been a lot of changes going on with regards to the state of the forum and admin/moderation for the last few days so I can understand if people get worried or that but well BSS is still just BSS. If people ever have queries or anything I've always said they can post here or PM/e-mail if they don't want to talk on the forums, same with any suggestions they may have and that won't be changing. There are very long threads in QCS if people want to look through everything that's happened with different mods/admins stepping down or being removed.

Okay, I read up on it a bit, and I see why those guys are upset, but I still think it's insane to start talking about moving to another forum because poo poo is going down in GBS/FYAD when some of us probably want nothing to do with those parts of SA in the first place.

Sorry, I'll stop talking about it, I just don't think we should freak out over other subforums' internet drama. I love BSS and I'd hate to see all that bullshit intrude on this place.

Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jan 31, 2014

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I tried going there to discuss X-Factor, because pretty much no one here read that at the time, and I'm never loving going back. Seriously there aren't any comics forums that are better and more informative than BSS, despite our faults. I would not be reading comics today if this forum wasn't here.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


redbackground posted:

Somebody give me the quick and dirty. Last time I checked out GBS everyone seemed to be having a Pretty Good Time with the (fairly amazing) 9/11-Star Wars mashups.

GBS is a mess, and a lot of people are calling for a general forum revamp and a mod overhaul. People yelled at each other and a lot of them were banned, others walked away, mods included. It's not anything new, and it's not surprising.

The thing I find most baffling is the constant insistence that the forums are supposed to be this or that way, and the current way isn't working, so let's get rid of subforum X or Y. I'm not going to disparage anyone in FYAD or GBS, but I have like 9.000 posts on this forum and I have no clue who Wayne Gretzky or Ruddha are. Maybe I'm missing out, but given the way things are going, I don't wanna touch that poo poo. Internet drama is the worst.

I primarily post here, in Games, and in the Giant Bomb thread, the latter two widely considered to be hellholes, and these are still the best/most civil forums I've ever seen.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009



Don't be like that, I specifically didn't mean to disparage anyone, nor tout that as some sort of stamp of pride. My point is that there's more to SA than what's going on in GBS/FYAD on any given day.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Dan Didio posted:

No one cares, dude.

Then why the passive-aggressiveness? Maybe I said something dumb, but I'd rather not promote the exact thing I'm complaining about.

Edit: Never mind, I'm gonna drop it, this wasn't my intention.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Schneider Heim posted:

At what point does Fables go bad? I bought Vol 1 from the Comixology DC sale...

Vol. 11 is the end of the adversary war, at which point everything goes downhill.

Some would say it's always been bad, some would say it's still good, but has peaked long ago. It's hard to say, just keep reading until you don't want to anymore, that's what I did. I still think it's a really good comic despite Willingham's bullshit.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Alien Rope Burn posted:

Yeah, I concur Fables was pretty solid for me up to #75, but I haven't reread it with fresh eyes in about five years. After that it just persists, and starts to somehow feel like fanfiction by the original author. And yes, the Jack of Fables ending has got to probably one of the worst cappers to a comic. It's ballsy, but ultimately horrible and self-indulgent.

So exactly like Jack, then. I don't know, I thought that ending was really funny at the time - looking back it's pretty lazy, and a clear result of him having no idea where to go with the story, but I still think it's oddly fitting for how insane that book was in general. I'd put it in the same league as something like Meet the Feebles.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Vincent posted:

McKelvie can only draw one type of face, can't he?

Yeah, I was reading through Fraction's Defenders, where McKelvie was the fill-in for a couple of issues and everyone was doing the exact same faces as in YA. I like him in general, but it's pretty grating.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


When Kirby's on top he's incredible. But he's also made stuff that seems very low-effort. That's not necessarily a knock against the man, as that happens to all writers/artists.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


theflyingorc posted:

Who else could have drawn Galactus' hat, realized that it looked AWESOME, and have been RIGHT?

If I drew Galactus I would have second guessed myself and assumed I was stupid, and I couldn't have been more wrong.

Evidently it's still too awesome to put in a film, though.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Mister Roboto posted:

How do people feel about the rumor The Matrix franchise is getting a reboot?

Everything ever is getting rebooted, so I'm pretty much ambivalent. If it's good, cool, don't care if it isn't.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I look forward to stepping into the future with my literal thousands of digital comics that I will never be able to resell.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Well, that's, er... okay.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Man I wanna wait for the Comixology price to drop on that new Moon Knight but with all the good things I've heard about it and my insane fanboyism for Moon Knight I might have to bite the bullet.

It's really good, but honestly I think it's one of those books that will read way better in a collected format. I was not satisfied with just 24 pages :smith:

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


irlZaphod posted:

All the first few issues are done-in-ones, there is an overarching story running through but it probably won't read any better collected like a standard 6 issue arc would or whatever.

I meant because it's so good that it sucks you'll have to wait a month between each issue.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


theflyingorc posted:

Agents of SHIELD is impressively boring.

The most frustrating thing for me (in the 5 episodes I watched) is that every single episode was "go get the mcguffin", and wasn't about superheroes at all! In all honesty, the plot of every episode I saw except for the pilot would have worked EXACTLY as well if I had been watching Chuck.

I like Chuck, it was a fun show, but that isn't what I want out of a SHIELD show even a little bit - especially since Chuck's cast was more interesting in every single way (except Agent Coulson is pretty good).

Well, okay, finding the show boring is perfectly sane, but the show was never, and is never, going to be about superheroes. I mean just the fact that it's called Agents of SHIELD says all you need to know.

They haven't done a good job of making the show exciting on its own, but I don't think its chosen topic is the problem.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Expecting them to deal with the Avengers cast was always unrealistic. The show is set in a world where there are people with powers, but the show isn't about them. Like I said in another thread, it's basically Fringe set in the Marvel universe. That show had people with powers in it, too, but it was never the focus - they're shows about human professionals dealing with insane poo poo in a world where pretty much anything can happen.

Maybe it was wrong of Marvel to market it that way, but I think it's in line with what they had established SHIELD as in the films. Basically paranormal FBI.

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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


CharlestheHammer posted:

That isn't what unrealistic means. Since your reasoning seems to be "because they don't want too.", which is fine but its kind of dooming itself to failure.

My reasoning is "that poo poo costs too much money". I had thought that would be obvious.

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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


sleepingbuddha posted:

Is it unrealistic to expect the show to engaging and entertaining?

No. I'm just saying let's call a spade a spade and say that this is why the show fails, not because RDJ or whomever doesn't show up in an episode.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

Whelp I guess I'm done buying comic books. My guy today told me that this was the last time he was going to have a pull box for me because I hadn't signed up for whatever stupid pre-pay bullshit they are doing now. I guess it's fitting since my last collection of comics is almost entirely poo poo I don't really like anymore and one actual book I want to read.

So long comic books. You were an expensive and tedious hobby that I hadn't really enjoyed for years.

Go digital or go bust, man.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


zoux posted:

About how long does it take you, the generic you, to read a regular weekly comic book?

About 10 minutes per issue on average, I'd guess. I like to pause after reading a page and take in the art.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Good teacher :)

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I'm surprised you got that close to being right in a room filled with pudgy balding white guys with beards and glasses.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I remember liking what little Spawn I read at the time - the book's depiction of Limbo stands out in my mind as being pretty creative and legitimately horrifying. Whatever else, I think it's a good concept. I'm sure if he was a Marvel/DC character someone talented would probably be able to do something awesome with him. I mean he's basically just Ghost Rider with a magical cape instead of a motorcycle.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Is Noah really some kind of archdruid with an army of ferocious animals at his command? Why are they so angry? Look at how pissed off that goat is.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Oh good, I've been wondering why it took so long for someone to bring back Here Comes the Hotstepper.

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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Man, how that guy turned it around. 10 years ago he shouldn't have been allowed near kids.

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