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Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013
Making a thread because it applies to ALL SOE games including Everquest/Everquest 2/Everquest Next/Everquest Next Landmark/Vanguard/Planetside/Planetside 2/DC Universe.

quote:

"The current benefit of receiving 500 Station Cash (SC) monthly will be replaced with a new program that allows you to select one single item valued up to 2000 SC each month. Nearly all items within the games’ Marketplace will be available for this selection. Players Studio, bundles and additional exclusions may apply. This new benefit must be claimed each month that you are a member as it will not carry over to subsequent months."

Source: https://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/index.php?threads/2014-membership-benefit-update.544282/

quote:

We are considering (and are likely going to move forward with) a plan that means if you subscribe to one of our games you are a subscriber to all our games (this applies to PC titles only btw).. all for the current $14.99 a month. That's a benefit most companies simply can't offer because they don't have our portfolio of games. The goal would be to let you pick an item in each game you play. Some of you might say "well who cares..I only play Planetside 2. How is that a benefit to me?" My answer is simple - we've got a great lineup of games, some of which aren't announced yet that cater to a lot of players. We have EQN and EQNL coming along with other..... games... that PS2 players might just like

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/1ukdxb/regarding_the_changes_to_our_subscription_plans/

Then a bunch of butthurt whiners on Reddit started complaining about not being able to stockpile Station Cash and the position got changed, again.

quote:

Thanks for the feedback. We listened.

We're keeping the 500 SC included with the subscription instead of going to the "pick an item" system. We heard you. You didn't like the change. The only change we are making is that we're now going to make you claim it monthly. You can still hoard it though :) I realize this is a bit of a pain but honestly it's the best compromise we could come up with that solves the problems I mentioned in the other thread.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/1ulcav/moving_forward_with_subscription_plan_changes/

So yeah, instead of getting 2000SC ($20) towards one item that you could purchase once a month, now we're back to 500SC ($5) that you can save every month with your Total Access subscription (benefits throughout all SOE games for $14.99 a month). So now, you have the privilege of being able to hoard your 500 SC for 4 months in order to get what we were being offered in the first place.

What do you guys think about that?

The reduction of total access is quite good though. Getting ALL these benefits throughout the entire SOE portfolio for your usual subscription fee? Pretty good deal. It just could have been a fuckton better.

https://www.everquest2.com/free
https://www.planetside2.com/membership
https://www.everquest.com/free
https://www.vanguardthegame.com/free
https://www.dcuniverseonline.com/free?locale=en_US

If you disagree with the reversal, post on the forums, tweet @j_smedley, make sure the vocal minority of reddit appear as what they are, a minority.

Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jan 7, 2014

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Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

Cool Blue Reason posted:

I'd imagine the vast majority of microtransactions are just that, micro. I don't really know a lot about SOE's system or what 20 bucks gets you, but I can see why people would rather have the option of getting multiple smaller things.

Guns in Planetside 2 are usually around 600-700. Everquest, I can't count the number of things that are around 1000+ that I'd love to buy. That means you wouldn't be able to get a gun/mount/cosmetic armor piece that month off SC alone. With the new system, you'd at least be able to do that every month and get pretty much anything you want. If you wait and horde it, you have to wait and save it until you have enough.

Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Jan 7, 2014

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

jabro posted:

Are you really bitching about free SC? Get real.

I am bitching about the potential change of giving us 2000SC (doesn't stack) versus 500SC every month that you get with a $15 premium subscription that does stack and would have happened if a bunch of reddit users hadn't whined and gotten their way. Let's say I want one of the cool 1950SC mounts in Everquest II. I would have to save up for 4 months, 1/3rd of an entire year or cough up $20 to get it. With the proposed system, I'd get it, and another the following month.

Let's say I want a 800SC gun/armor in Planetside 2/Vanguard. I'd have to either wait two months to get the 800SC through the 500SC increments or I could just wait buy it, sure I'm not using the other 1200SC but at least I'd be able to afford it.

I'm failing to see the downside here.

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

Pilsner posted:

I was actually a bit peeved about the change, since it meant that I could never attain enough free SC to buy a character transfer token, which is 2500. I might be interested in buying such tokens in the near future.

All in all though, I :rolleyes: at SOE and their whole SC circus, but eh, the way things are going, I'll probably be desensitized to it in a few years.

Serious question. After you get that 2500SC token, how would you feel knowing that you could get 2000SC per month instead of 500?

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

Stanley Pain posted:

This is the stupidest OP I've read in a while. The current iteration of what SOE is planning to do is downright amazing from a value and choice perspective. Period.

Better than being able to pick up any item valued at 1-2000SC per month instead of having to save up? Yeah, I'm not dealing with any 2000+ SC items so it doesn't bother me but those are generally reserved for account services like name changes, server transfers and whatnot.

Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

Pilsner posted:

I was about to say that I've never seen anything worth getting for under 2000 in EQ1, but now that I check, I see that there are 20-slot bags and 40-slot tradeskill bags for around 2000. Not too shabby.

Eh well to either solution; I'm fundamentally against pay to win, even minor useful items, but I know my opinion on that matter is moot.

The mounts for around 1900/1950 are great.

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Alexander DeLarge
Dec 20, 2013

Sintor posted:

Which is why I would bet money that they would suddenly become 2100 SC or they do something like not allow you to combine standard SC with the "grant" SC.

They're getting $15 every 30 days. They know not to push it because people would just say "gently caress it" and unsubscribe if they started doing that to artificially inflate prices to gouge money out of their subscribers.

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