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Leroy Diplowski posted:volvo 240. Every day. I like how they only attacked Ford...
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11BulletCatcher posted:I like how they only attacked Ford... You're about to feel the wrath of pontiac fan
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Powershift posted:You're about to feel the wrath of pontiac fan AHEM!
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West SAAB Story posted:AHEM! eh, firebirds don't count as cars... where's th velour seats?
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Leroy Diplowski posted:volvo 240. Every day. This must be a universe where Japanese cars and things powered by SBCs and 3800s don't exist. G-bodies are weird; they are either in excellent shape or look like they have been driven through a lake + off a cliff several times. There does not seem to be any in average shape. Still see 'em semi-frequently though. Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jan 25, 2014 |
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Jan 25, 2014 05:23
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Hey My first car was a 77 four-door. In that generation, the sedan looked better than the coupe, because the coupe was awkward as gently caress.
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VideoTapir posted:My first car was a 77 four-door. See I've always loved the Disco Nova coupes but dislike the sedans. I'd DD the hell out of a coupe with a nice 5 speed behind anything but the stock engine.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:36
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Powershift posted:You're about to feel the wrath of pontiac fan   
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Jan 25, 2014 22:48
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Since when is a 90s Grand Am a classic? 
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Jan 26, 2014 02:20
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Terrible Robot posted:See I've always loved the Disco Nova coupes but dislike the sedans. I'd DD the hell out of a coupe with a nice 5 speed behind anything but the stock engine. I cannot get on board with that rear side window, that C pillar, or anything else between the door and the trunk.
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Jan 26, 2014 02:30
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Mercedes Benz 600. gently caress you and get out of the way of my German land barge.
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Jan 26, 2014 06:11
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Obvious answer: Relatively reliable, relatively civilised, obtainable parts etc. Current preference answer:   One slow, one fast.
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Jan 26, 2014 13:11
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Well I daily drive a 99 Deville so it's a couple years away from counting. And I still plan to be driving it in 2018.  Even if I got my 65 Deville to a good condition it's a convertible and I live in the NE so that wouldn't be a happening thing. I think maybe an early 80s Seville would be good. There's a sweet spot with them for a certain year where the engine has decent power for the era as they are coming out of the 70s and have figured out how to build more efficient compliant cars. But they're still fairly long for an 80s car. The modern conveniences and safety features would make it much better than a 60s car, and I dig the bustleback.
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Feb 2, 2014 22:37
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animeliker posted:This must be a universe where Japanese cars and things powered by SBCs and 3800s don't exist. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/54202062?from=en-us_msnhp#54202062
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Feb 3, 2014 00:51
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czYUZOlclSo Take that, Volvo.
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11BulletCatcher posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czYUZOlclSo Checkmate 
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Feb 3, 2014 02:39
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I figured maybe an OTR heavy truck had broken that record, and one has. There's a 3+ million mile tractor trailer out there too. It's also a Volvo.
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Up until my accident a few months back, I daily drove a 1964 Impala (It was actually my only car that wasn't a non-mobile project car). And I will be doing the exact same very soon. I don't see the point in owning any car if it is gonna sit in the garage.
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kastein posted:I figured maybe an OTR heavy truck had broken that record, and one has. There's a 3+ million mile tractor trailer out there too. It's also a Volvo. SONOFABITCH!
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Root Bear posted:1967 Chevelle SS 396 That is my hands down second favorite classic car (After a 1964 Impala of course), and I will own one some day. My brother had a black '67 396 SS, and that was one of the cars that always stuck with me. And we had probably over 100 muscle cars growing up (Dad bought/sold/fixed them up for extra income).
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I'm not gay, but I would fully let that car penetrate me.
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Feb 3, 2014 03:23
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Leroy Diplowski posted:volvo 240. Every day. Well if that counts then I already do this. Not necessarily because it's a 'classic' but I'm just cheap and maintaining it is an order of magnitude cheaper than a car payment. It's also pretty drat comfortable.
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echoplex posted:Obvious answer: Those were all my runners up. We have similar tastes. Do you own a Delorean?
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Feb 3, 2014 05:34
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Are there Delorean owners out there who just hate BTTF? The only local one we have put a flux capaciter into his and talks about wanting to do a full conversion.
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I love Deloreans, like BTTF, hate the Delorean BTTF connection. I love the car for its styling, gullwing doors and identity as an American automotive startup (a la Tucker or Tesla), even if it is an absolute turd to drive. I've often considered saving for one but am put off by the inevitable BTTF comments I'd get at every turn from every observer. If I got people coming up to me wanting to talk about Giugiaro, I'd feel a lot different.
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Terrible Robot posted:Checkmate Ya but that's in kilometers, so who really knows how far that is? Might be like 40 miles or something.
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blk posted:I love Deloreans, like BTTF, hate the Delorean BTTF connection. I love the car for its styling, gullwing doors and identity as an American automotive startup (a la Tucker or Tesla), even if it is an absolute turd to drive. I've often considered saving for one but am put off by the inevitable BTTF comments I'd get at every turn from every observer. If I got people coming up to me wanting to talk about Giugiaro, I'd feel a lot different. This. Despite being a bit of a dog mechanically, the styling is phenomenal and it's kind of a curse that it will forever be "THE CAR FROM BACK TO THE FUTURE OH MAH GAWD!!" instead of one of the design triumphs of an era.
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Slavvy posted:This. Despite being a bit of a dog mechanically, the styling is phenomenal and it's kind of a curse that it will forever be "THE CAR FROM BACK TO THE FUTURE OH MAH GAWD!!" instead of one of the design triumphs of an era. I love the direction Matt Farah is going with his. No stupid BTTF crap, just a nice clean DeLorean with the suspension sorted, engine nicely tuned and everything done the way the car should have come from the factory.
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blk posted:Those were all my runners up. We have similar tastes. Do you own a Delorean? Nope. I decided against buying a project one for the second time last month as I've wanted one since I was a kid, but I want it to be 'right' when I get it. It's probably not very AI to say this but I fix/force stuff to come together in a compromised way for a living and for me a car like that should be perfect (in so much as those cars can be). Working/restoring it would kill the magic for me. I'm also thinking that being in the UK I'm never far away from one of the RHD models so maybe it's worth holding back for one of those; they're 10% faster for twice the price (bargain). There's also one of the pilot/prototype cars here that's been restored and that's very tempting. blk posted:If I got people coming up to me wanting to talk about Giugiaro, I'd feel a lot different. We apparently have the same specific DeLorean interests! I love the cars, but part of what makes them interesting is the history and the circumstance around them, and how against-all-odds it was that they ever got made. John was a fascinating man - a real monster; Steve Jobs doesn't have poo poo on him. He was a crook, a thief, a liar and a blackmailer who got where he did with establishing DMC through charisma and dumb luck. He was a schemer, but he also wasn't especially bright. I don't think there's a single person who worked with him who won't tell you that he wasn't a little bit crazy - not in the good way, but like an undisciplined child. He chumped a lot of decent people, screwed people out of their money, homes, businesses, careers and retirements, shat all over the hopes of 2000 desperate people and brought down the whole thing he worked for out of sheer... something. Someone said about him that he was a man "always on the run" and even when he had it all, he was still wilfully self-destructive. I find a lot of Americans idolise him but the man was scum; the breakdown of his behaviour from 75-82 is amazing. Then there was the guys at Lotus, who effectively managed to create a production car from scratch in around 14 months (they started and then had to start over when the car was re-designed). How they managed to do it - creating toolings, testing programmes, constantly winging it (in a professional manner), having thousands of parts made from basic discussions drawings rather than actual plans and praying to god they fit... Every week there was something that should have made the whole thing crumble, but somehow they managed to make a workable production car out of it. It wasn't very good, but that's not really the point. And because there was only that one car made, you can kind of see the whole history in it. The mad gimmicks that came directly from John's pen, the cut corners in terms of engineering that can be traced back to a specific argument on a specific date, the clash in engineering between what Bill Collins produced and what Lotus put in, and of course, the iffy build quality representative of an all-new, barely trained workforce doing their best. It's not a car with soul like an Alfa or Ferarri or whatever, but few other cars have a tangible context/history just by looking at them. It's kinda a pity that the car is better known as being a comedy prop than for that, but then, most people aren't interested in cars/auto history to that level, so whatever. I've been lucky that I've been able to talk to people like Colin Spooner, Mike Loasby - even a quick chat with Giugario - there's so much crazy history to it all, and almost every person involved has their own horror story of wasted blood, sweat and tears that they put into it. Not to mention that it pretty much killed Colin Chapman (who would have gone to jail anyway). Rhyno posted:Are there Delorean owners out there who just hate BTTF? The only local one we have put a flux capaciter into his and talks about wanting to do a full conversion. It's not like the cars are hyper rare, but I am finding the volume of conversions being done to be a bit depressing. With enough money they're reversible, and the original prop cars were beautifully made (one of the reasons I ended up working in film was how much I liked them as a kid), but they're all identical and most are made for the sole purpose of being rented out for TV shows/advertising gimmicks and it's just a bit tiring (cue the usual "no one would know about DeLoreans if it wasn't for BTTF" argument)
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Slavvy posted:This. Despite being a bit of a dog mechanically, the styling is phenomenal and it's kind of a curse that it will forever be "THE CAR FROM BACK TO THE FUTURE OH MAH GAWD!!" instead of one of the design triumphs of an era. KozmoNaut posted:I love the direction Matt Farah is going with his. No stupid BTTF crap, just a nice clean DeLorean with the suspension sorted, engine nicely tuned and everything done the way the car should have come from the factory.
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While not a "classic," per se, I'd like to have a short bed Chevy pickup (circa 70s-80s) under me again - for nostalgia & utility reasons more than anything.
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Rhyno posted:Are there Delorean owners out there who just hate BTTF? The only local one we have put a flux capaciter into his and talks about wanting to do a full conversion. I hate the BTTF fanboys for ruining the market for what would otherwise should be a not terribly expensive 80's mid-engine car that should be similar in price to Fieros and MR2s and also for making it so hard to find good condition, but unmolested examples anymore. It's a beautiful car in stock form, why can't people leave it that way? 
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I don't think BTTF fanboys have altered the market at all - if you assume theres 6000-6500 cars left (reasonable) there can't be more than 100 conversions out there - perhaps between 50 and 70. Used prices have risen fairly stably with inflation over the years - (£12k for a used LHD circa 1996, £18k now). Prices spiked a little when John died in 2005 but mostly they've stayed as-is. BTTF may have raised their used value in the late 80s but it's hard to say because at the time of recievership NOS cars were selling for half of list price. But generally they've stayed fairly evenly priced. They're surely the easiest classic car to find unmolested? (also, very very rear engined, not mid) Are these considered classic? After the E9/M1 I think this is the third most desirable BMW. In Europe they have the presence of an older, larger American car in some ways - I can't think of anything (other than the large Mercedes coupes) that have that kind of proportion. It's the only thing that the new boat-sized 6 series gets 'right'. E: I suppose my definition of classic is out of production but carries cachet with car nerds?  echoplex fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Feb 3, 2014 |
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I had an e24 635csi a while back and it was an absolutely marvellous car. Also, the facelift version based on e28 mechanicals like I had is COMPLETELY different to the e12 based early cars. Completely. No shared panels or parts. They look similar in photos, but if you see them in person they look like two generations of the same model.
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A 1971 Datsun Skyline GT-R. I've loved these things since the first time I saw one. Hideously expensive, unattainably rare, I would drive the poo poo out of this thing and be the happiest man on the planet:
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Slavvy posted:I had an e24 635csi a while back and it was an absolutely marvellous car. Also, the facelift version based on e28 mechanicals like I had is COMPLETELY different to the e12 based early cars. Completely. No shared panels or parts. They look similar in photos, but if you see them in person they look like two generations of the same model. That always threw me out, both cars almost look identical, but are completely different underneath. I think one way of telling the difference between the two is that the later cars had longer doors.
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Slavvy posted:This. Despite being a bit of a dog mechanically, the styling is phenomenal and it's kind of a curse that it will forever be "THE CAR FROM BACK TO THE FUTURE OH MAH GAWD!!" instead of one of the design triumphs of an era. I've always wondered... Volvo 760s and 780s came with a PRV before they switched to Volvo redblocks. How hard could it be to put one in a Delorean?
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atomicthumbs posted:I've always wondered... Volvo 760s and 780s came with a PRV before they switched to Volvo redblocks. How hard could it be to put one in a Delorean? First you need to find a frame to support it..
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It's only been in the last 7 months that I've owned a car from the current decade. I've driven classics daily for my entire driving career. And I've seen just about every one of my cars in this thread so far. 1969 Nova: My first car, back when I started driving, it was a cheap muscle car, everyone wanted a chevelle or other more muscly car, as stated already, you can basically open a catalog and build a new one. Sadly, this was really not the case back when I had it. I've always said that by the late 50s, they pretty much had it figured out fast cars that can keep up with modern speeds and still be viable, drivable vehicles.  All three of these cars have been daily drivers for my friends and I. My 1958 Cadillac is just that, I drove it daily for a few years, I loved it, but after a while it became a car, and the "HEY DUDE NICE CAR" or "HEY LOOK ITS EVLIS" or "IS THAT A (insert incorrect year and make)?!" gets old.  I'd love to say that cars from the 40s are daily drivers, but they are not.. If you have a lot of patience, you like going slow and you have time to account for issues, and are of sound body (manual brakes and steering can tire you out) they are the perfect weekend or knock around cars, but in a day to day commute, you will want to tear your hair out. If you want a car that can be daily, pretty much anything from the late 50s to early 60s onwards will be your perfect bet.
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Simple answer: something that utterly revolutionised the car business, or at least a certain segment of it: A 1990 Lexus LS400. I would want to do obnoxious burnouts in front of the Mercedes dealer, but I think the sheer class of it would keep Mr under control.
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