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BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006
Today marks the release of Bruce Springsteen's 18th studio album*, High Hopes!

*Well, kinda. See below.


High Hopes is something new for Springsteen - nothing on this album was, really, written for this album. It's kind of a mishmash of songs. The tracklist is as follows:

  • High Hopes - A song originally recorded by the Havalinas and covered by Bruce in 1996, it appears here re-recorded with the entire touring complement of the E Street Band - horn section, backup singers, and Tom Morello. Morello played with the band on Bruce's last tour leg through Australia because Steve Van Zandt was in Norway filming his TV show. The song is rollicking and energetic as hell, and sounds like they just stuck the E Street Band in a room and told them to have fun. Good use of Morello's particular musical style, too, and sets the table for his involvement in the rest of the album.
  • Harry's Place - Originally written for The Rising, Harry's Place is a standout of the album. Fun bit of trivia: Harry's Place single-handedly sets the new record for most "fucks" dropped by Springsteen on an album.
  • American Skin (41 Shots) - Originally written by Bruce after the shooting of Amadou Diallo in 1999, 41 Shots made its premiere on the E Street reunion tour, and reappeared in E Street setlists after the shooting of Trayvon Martin in 2012. The High Hopes version was put together using various instrumental tracks, including Tom Morello on guitar and a sax solo from the late Clarence Clemons.
  • Just Like Fire Would - A cover of a song by the Australian band The Saints, Bruce played it during the first show of his Australian tour last year and it was a hit, so it got recorded and made the album. One of the most fun to listen to songs on the album - energetic as hell, and recorded around the same time that High Hopes was, so it has the same full-band feel.
  • Down in the Hole - Another track that was originally intended for The Rising, Down in the Hole features organ playing from Danny Federici and sax from Clarence Clemons, and might be the last time that we hear the Born to Run-era E Street Band together on a studio album.
  • Heaven's Wall - Not much to say about this one. Solid, I think it came from a potential gospel album that Bruce was considering.
  • Frankie Fell in Love - A fun uptempo fratrocker in the vein of Sherry Darling - not TOO special on the album, but fun, and I can't wait to hear how it sounds in a huge-rear end stadium.
  • This is Your Sword - Another one from the scrapped gospel album. It's a bit weird to hear Springsteen get so explicitly religious, but I don't hate it.
  • Hunter of Invisible Game - Absolutely beautiful. Another religious-y one, but goddamn does it work.
  • The Ghost of Tom Joad - Morello's time to shine. He trades off a verse with Bruce (The first time this has ever happened on a Springsteen album unless you count Michelle Moore's rapping on Rocky Ground from Wrecking Ball), and absolutely tears it up with his guitar. If you've heard any of the live performances of it with Morello, you know what to expect, but goddamn does it sound good. Originally released in 1995, I personally think this is now the definitive version.
  • The Wall - Federici's organ-playing shows up again on this beautiful elegy to Vietnam veterans. Probably the most emotionally powerful song on the album.
  • Dream Baby Dream - Mesmerizing and hypnotic (that might be redundant, but it's worth emphasizing), this is a great cover (the original version was by Suicide). Great way to close out the album, an opportunity to take a deep breath and reflect.

Overall, while it lacks the kind of cohesive theme and storyline people have come expect from a Bruce Springsteen album, the quality of the songs makes this an excellent album. 9/10

I figure we can use this thread to talk about the new album, and as a Springsteen thread in general. I've been a huge fan of Bruce for years, and it's always kinda bugged me that there wasn't a thread for him. The new album is my excuse to post one, so here we go!

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Taliaquin
Dec 13, 2009

Turtle flu
Oh, gently caress yes. Springsteen is one of my all-time favorite singers and I'd completely lost track of when this was coming out. Thanks for the reminder! Gonna put this on Spotify right now.

BrooklynBruiser posted:

[*] American Skin (41 Shots) - Originally written by Bruce after the shooting of Amadou Diallo in 1999, 41 Shots made its premiere on the E Street reunion tour, and reappeared in E Street setlists after the shooting of Trayvon Martin in 2012. The High Hopes version was put together using various instrumental tracks, including Tom Morello on guitar and a sax solo from the late Clarence Clemons.
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I love this song, but I wonder how many people are going to be pissed off about it, considering that Springsteen, despite his personal politics that I think definitely shine through in his work, still has a pretty big good ol' boy fanbase who got pissed off about the rap on Rocky Ground. Screw 'em. I'm happy this song has finally made it to an album.

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[*] The Ghost of Tom Joad - Morello's time to shine. He trades off a verse with Bruce (The first time this has ever happened on a Springsteen album unless you count Michelle Moore's rapping on Rocky Ground from Wrecking Ball), and absolutely tears it up with his guitar. If you've heard any of the live performances of it with Morello, you know what to expect, but goddamn does it sound good. Originally released in 1995, I personally think this is now the definitive version.
Oh sweet Jesus yes. :worship:

EDIT: First song just started. Holy poo poo...

Taliaquin fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jan 15, 2014

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

Taliaquin posted:

Oh, gently caress yes. Springsteen is one of my all-time favorite singers and I'd completely lost track of when this was coming out. Thanks for the reminder! Gonna put this on Spotify right now.
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I love this song, but I wonder how many people are going to be pissed off about it, considering that Springsteen, despite his personal politics that I think definitely shine through in his work, still has a pretty big good ol' boy fanbase who got pissed off about the rap on Rocky Ground. Screw 'em. I'm happy this song has finally made it to an album.

Oh sweet Jesus yes. :worship:

EDIT: First song just started. Holy poo poo...

Can't wait to hear more reactions!

Also, here folks, have some videos from Bruce on Fallon last night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHV0LLvhXM

Bruce and the Band playing High Hopes

Bruce and the Band playing Heaven's Wall

JoTro
Dec 24, 2006

So tonight I'm gonna party like its 1066!
Very cool to hear him cover a Saints song. I'd like to hear his take on another song of theirs, "Everything's Fine".

BrosephofArimathea
Jan 31, 2005

I've finally come to grips with the fact that the sky fucking fell.
Don't really like Harrys Place, aside from Bruce swearing like a sailor, but High Hopes/Just Like Fire Would/Down In The Hole/The Wall are awesome and make this a pro-buy.


BrooklynBruiser posted:

[*] The Ghost of Tom Joad - Morello's time to shine. He trades off a verse with Bruce (The first time this has ever happened on a Springsteen album unless you count Michelle Moore's rapping on Rocky Ground from Wrecking Ball), and absolutely tears it up with his guitar. If you've heard any of the live performances of it with Morello, you know what to expect, but goddamn does it sound good. Originally released in 1995, I personally think this is now the definitive version.

The High Hopes version is great, but the live version (from the Magic bonus disc) is just so much rawer, so much more energy. This one is a bit more sedate and controlled. Relatively speaking :)

The live version is definitely my preferred one.


Taliaquin posted:

I love this song, but I wonder how many people are going to be pissed off about it, considering that Springsteen, despite his personal politics that I think definitely shine through in his work, still has a pretty big good ol' boy fanbase who got pissed off about the rap on Rocky Ground. Screw 'em. I'm happy this song has finally made it to an album.

He had some big problems with the original version when he played it in NYC (which subsequently made it to a live album, and one of the compilation albums). The chief of police engaged in some awesome ad hominems ('We don't need a millionaire coming down here and making money off our backs'), the head of the police union called him a dirtbag and a fag (since he is clearly a 12yo Call of Duty player) and Guilliani took a shot at him as well.

I'm torn on whether the live or the new album version is better.

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

BrosephofArimathea posted:

He had some big problems with the original version when he played it in NYC (which subsequently made it to a live album, and one of the compilation albums). The chief of police engaged in some awesome ad hominems ('We don't need a millionaire coming down here and making money off our backs'), the head of the police union called him a dirtbag and a fag (since he is clearly a 12yo Call of Duty player) and Guilliani took a shot at him as well.

I'm torn on whether the live or the new album version is better.

Yeah, and then in 2003 when Bruce did a 3-show set at Shea Stadium in NYC, he had a police escort for the band's cars to the show, and then he played 41 Shots on night 1 and didn't have the police escort for night 2.

Here, have a bonus performance from Fallon, this time of Just Like Fire Would.

BrooklynBruiser fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 17, 2014

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

BrosephofArimathea posted:


He had some big problems with the original version when he played it in NYC (which subsequently made it to a live album, and one of the compilation albums). The chief of police engaged in some awesome ad hominems ('We don't need a millionaire coming down here and making money off our backs'), the head of the police union called him a dirtbag and a fag (since he is clearly a 12yo Call of Duty player) and Guilliani took a shot at him as well.

Yeah, 'cause a Jersey native playing in NYC is practically a carpetbagger :rolleyes:

Cockblocktopus
Apr 18, 2009

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.


I'm still digesting the album (its vanishing from Spotify at least twice mid-listen doesn't help), but Pete Seeger and Bruce Springsteen did a version of Ghost of Tom Joad a while ago that's also pretty good. I think I like the High Hopes take better, but this version is worth a listen or two.

It's Pete Seeger as hell though, down to a call-and-response chorus.

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

FadingChord posted:

I'm still digesting the album (its vanishing from Spotify at least twice mid-listen doesn't help), but Pete Seeger and Bruce Springsteen did a version of Ghost of Tom Joad a while ago that's also pretty good. I think I like the High Hopes take better, but this version is worth a listen or two.

It's Pete Seeger as hell though, down to a call-and-response chorus.

It's definitely Pete Seeger as hell, which is one of the reasons I like it so much. America could use more Pete Seegers and I'm gonna be SO loving SAD when he dies.

Cockblocktopus
Apr 18, 2009

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.


BrooklynBruiser posted:

It's definitely Pete Seeger as hell, which is one of the reasons I like it so much. America could use more Pete Seegers and I'm gonna be SO loving SAD when he dies.

Shut up, 94's not that old. :smith:

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006
News update: High Hopes debuts at #1 on the charts! Bruce is going to sell recordings of every concert!

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

I was wondering when he might do that. I love how easily accessible bootlegs are of his shows but I'll buy the good ones instead.

I love High Hopes, I'd forgotten he already covered it but it's nice to see such a fresh take on something no one's really bought. American Land didn't get nearly as much of a makeover when it got re-released. It's kind of funny to look at Springsteen's collaboration partners and see how it has gone from people he admired as a kid like Gary US Bonds to people who loved him as a kid. (If you haven't heard the albums Bonds did with Springsteen you really need to.) If only there were some way Morello, Bonds and Southside Johnny could all end up stage together at the Meadowlands...

BrooklynBruiser posted:

It's definitely Pete Seeger as hell, which is one of the reasons I like it so much. America could use more Pete Seegers and I'm gonna be SO loving SAD when he dies.

Now I'm sad to bump this thread.

Cockblocktopus
Apr 18, 2009

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.


:siren: We have US tour dates! :siren:

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Surprised to see so many dates in mid sized markets/arenas. Kind of cool though, I'm going to try to get to the Mohegan Sun show.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Saw both nights in Adelaide, they were exceptional. The only slight complaint is nothing from Nebraska, and he called an audible instead of "Racing in the Street" (We were right behind the stage so we saw it come up as per the setlist on the prompters and then the audible). He's also on a real AC/DC kick with rumors he's adding You Shook Me All Night Long to "Highway to Hell".

Ont he first night were were in the last set of seats in the cheapest area (up against the back wall in the corner) and on both sides sitting next to us it was "ooh boo hoo these were the only tickets I could get and I'm sitting HERE these seats suck man I've been looking forward to this my whole life and I'm sitting here?")

(lights go out)

:tviv:

MassRafTer posted:

Surprised to see so many dates in mid sized markets/arenas. Kind of cool though, I'm going to try to get to the Mohegan Sun show.

Traditionally speaking you hit the major markets first cycle and then go back and clean up everywhere else. First year he did the major US/European markets, then he did the Major Australian markets, cleaned up the rest of Europe (I'd like to think he went to Scandinavia just to see Stevie) and this year he cleaned up Australia and is finishing up the US.

Cockblocktopus
Apr 18, 2009

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.


I'd be surprised if he doesn't do a summer leg in Europe and then comes back to the states for the fall, which is what he's done a bunch of times before. A Springsteen tour without Jersey just feels... wrong.

But I've also been thinking that about The Replacements getting back together and not playing Minneapolis, so take that for what it's worth. :shrug:

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Yes Bruce play all of Born in the USA the first show after Adelaide. :negative:

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
So in summary Australia had

11 shows,

Complete performances of Born to Run, Born in the USA, Darkness at the Edge of Town and The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle(!!)

Covers of songs by AC/DC, INXS, the Easybeats, and the Bee Gees.

I mean really, where do you go from here?

Cockblocktopus
Apr 18, 2009

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.


A complete performance of The River?

Amphion
Jun 10, 2012

All we know is... he's called The Stig.
Complete performance of Tracks. All 60+ songs.

Or at least the ones that have never been played live.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
A complete performance of Live 75-85

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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His lords cover is pretty legit.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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A couple of months ago, after listening to a marathon of the entire Tracks album, I went looking for more outtakes because I love Tracks. So here's my thoughts on that.

- Entirely for the beat, I love Fugitive's Dream more than Unsatisfied Heart.

- Something the Boss himself has brought up, but for a while there it appears the Born in the USA album was going to be Nebraska 2.0. It makes me wonder what thoughts were running through his head at the time.

-Why wasn't Richfield Whistle included on Tracks?! That song is freaking great.

-Speaking of Richfield Whistle, in 2003 Bruce did a live version of County Fair that ended the song right at the last line. I feel that Richfield Whistle should have ended like that and they should have kept County Fair going through the ending instrumental, because it lends it its atmosphere, whereas to have Richfield Whistle end there would also have contributed to the feel of the song.

-In the City Tonight is great, but I wish I understood more than a few snippets of lines. Is there a way to clean it up somehow, or is that the best we can do?

JoTro
Dec 24, 2006

So tonight I'm gonna party like its 1066!

FadingChord posted:

A complete performance of The River?

I witnessed this in 2008 and it was pretty incredible.

Screen Door Slams
Jan 27, 2014

Michael Pineda just couldn't stay healthy...

JoTro posted:

I witnessed this in 2008 and it was pretty incredible.

I was at that too. That show also featured a killer cover of Sweet Soul Music, complete with about a minute and a half of the band working the song out, and then tearing into it and playing it like it was a staple of every show.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

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I've been thinking over Bruce's collection of work, both outtake and not, and how it reflects the singer himself. Stuff like My Father's House, Wages of Sin, Iceman, etc. Like, Bruce has said that the album Tunnel of Love is about a middle aged man trying to find his way through a tumultuous relationship, but considering his circumstances at the time I would say it's equally about Bruce's own failing marriage and reflection of love in his life. The ending song to that album, Valentine's Day, is one of my favorite songs by him.

So the line "I want to know if love is wild, I want to know if love is real" in Born to Run...you think he ever found out, both the singer and the character?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Has anyone ordered any of the MP3s of the current tour? There's some really interesting looking set lists coming up and I have some driving to do. If you have, (or if you were there live) did any shows stand out above the rest?

tank9900
Mar 27, 2004

English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

MassRafTer posted:

Has anyone ordered any of the MP3s of the current tour? There's some really interesting looking set lists coming up and I have some driving to do. If you have, (or if you were there live) did any shows stand out above the rest?

On another forum I frequent a user there said that the shows he has picked up are pretty hit or miss. Some have too much crowd noise (to give it more of a concert feel) while others have been pretty solid. I believe that was in reference to the Australian shows, so maybe they have cleaned things up a bit because those were the first shows under the program.

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Apr 15, 2013

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Mary Mary is a little too much like Leah for my taste, and I don't really get the vibe of Hey Blue Eyes. Those are only minor complaints though, and all around I like those two songs. The other two songs on American Beauty are kind of hit and miss though.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

tank9900 posted:

On another forum I frequent a user there said that the shows he has picked up are pretty hit or miss. Some have too much crowd noise (to give it more of a concert feel) while others have been pretty solid. I believe that was in reference to the Australian shows, so maybe they have cleaned things up a bit because those were the first shows under the program.

I bought the Cinci show since Lost in the Flood is basically my favorite Springsteen live song and the crowd noise was pretty much perfect. Pretty much exactly what I hoped I'd get for $10. Better than a bootleg, not a flawless live release.

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!

BrooklynBruiser posted:

[*] Hunter of Invisible Game - Absolutely beautiful. Another religious-y one, but goddamn does it work.


By far my favorite, it's just so charmingly good :3:

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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Mr. Outside is among the most obscurest songs of his that I have listened to, but after listening to it, that song sticks to you, it's so catchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8WWwlpH0Sc

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Gologle posted:

Mr. Outside is among the most obscurest songs of his that I have listened to, but after listening to it, that song sticks to you, it's so catchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8WWwlpH0Sc

It sounds a little like it was originally intended for one of the Gary US Bonds albums.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

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So a music video for Hunter came out about two weeks or so ago. It could have been longer, I don't really care for music videos so I don't know. Also UUUUUGGGHHH New York City Serenade is so good. All of his older stuff is freaking amazing.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

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So, here's a list of what is apparently his top 25 favorite books. Judge this man, people. Judge him on his literary tastes.

http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/11/03/bruce-springsteen-reading-list-favorite-books/

I'm sorry for the bump, but I just found this link interesting.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
This could be fine turning into a general Springsteen thread (The forum is due one) but I only caught Johnny Cash's Johnny '99 for the first time yesterday and, as much as I love Cash, that song is so drat bad.

On the other hand, Eddie Vedder's Open All Night is pretty good.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

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I find it weirdly sad that the most productive thread about Springsteen was a GBS semi-troll thread that went on for five pages. Like, he isn't THAT polarizing, which explains why people don't talk about him that much, but again, he's not that polarizing. It's not always either love or hate, you don't have to know much about him to like his songs, and if you're a fan then...I don't even know. At this point I can't say I'm not a fan, but I don't talk about it that much, and any time I try to stir up interest it's just..not there.

Like, I really dig Tunnel of Love. I'll say that it should probably be a huge compliment that people say his Post-Born in the USA stuff was weaker than his pre- because his pre stuff kicked rear end. A lot of people cite Darkness and Nebraska, but I pretty much enjoy all of them, with the exception of the River, which I think as a whole is only good, even though it has some of his best hits like Out in the Street, Drive all Night, etc.

But again, post Born in the USA isn't bad. Again, I really dig Tunnel of Love, it's probably one of my favorites he's done because I felt myself sympathizing with a lot of the content in the songs. Human Touch and Lucky Town were lacking a bit of the mood that people, both fans and otherwise, associate with him, but there were still good tracks in them. Ghost of Tom Joad was Nebraska-lite, but that's still pretty drat good. The Rising was an awesome album, and Devils and Dust was Ghost of Tom Joad-lite, which is still good. Magic and Working on a Dream...OK, yeah, I feel like these are where people come from when they say his post-BOrn in the USA stuff is worse. But even these have Terry's Song, Devil's Arcade, and Outlaw Pete.

And don't forget Tracks. Yeah, it's outtakes and B-sides, but it was released after Born in the USA and many of those tracks previously went unheard, so I say it counts. A ton of those songs are great.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002
I kinda halfway hate Bruce Spingsteen, but I had a disk of outtakes and demos from like '70 and '71 that was gnarly. Would I dig tracks if I like this stuff? I like springsteens voice and think he writes a good song, I just think it all turns to poo poo when he gets in the studio basically.

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Apr 15, 2013

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If you liked the early 70's stuff, then you would dig probably the first disc of tracks, and see if you can dig up some live stuff from that period as well. Although if you're talking Steel Mill or the Bruce Springsteen Band, you're a bit out of luck. TBH though, I don't think you even have to be a fan to like Tracks. I remember an interview a guy did where even though he said he didn't feel one way or the other about Springsteen he still really liked Tracks, although in his case it was more about how he was impressed that a guy could throw away songs that for other people would be guaranteed album material.

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LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Tracks has basically my favorite Springsteen track in roulette . http://youtu.be/aESH2f6qi_g

If you like Springsteen less produced you might like the stuff he made with the sessions band. It's him performing American folk songs with a huge fun band http://youtu.be/ZZ6SAryPyQk

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