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Detroit_Dogg posted:Other things that may hurt Northwestern's chances of winning the Big Ten: This is actually a very subtle and clever plot by our SAT overlords. Their plan is to convince the other 13 teams that unions are cool so they all unionize, then yell, "PSYCH!" and not form one of their own - leaving the path to the Big 10 championship wide open for them. This time, The Brain will win, you'll see!
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Teams I am worried about winning the Big Ten -One that starts Kain Coulter -One that is somehow unable to recruit Chicago despite being right loving there -One that can only consistently beat Iowa
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Apr 10, 2014 04:42
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Apr 10, 2014 06:44
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R.D. Mangles posted:you fuckers just wait Northwestern getting good at football would be one of the signs of the Apocalypse. They win a naitonal championship, and the world gets destroyed in a hail of brimstone and locusts.
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Apr 10, 2014 06:48
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As long as the hail waits until *after* the end of overtime in the championship game, I'll take that deal. I've got a question. I've heard some people off the back of the NRLB finding that the players are employees claiming that this means the IRS could/would come along and declare athletic scholarships a form of income paid to an employee, and start expecting athletes to pay income tax on them. Is this just barrack-room lawyering or could there be something to it?
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Apr 10, 2014 12:12
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Trin Tragula posted:As long as the hail waits until *after* the end of overtime in the championship game, I'll take that deal. While they probably could consider scholarships income, they'll probably declare it as untaxable income and just keep going.
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Apr 10, 2014 16:10
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kayakyakr posted:While they probably could consider scholarships income, they'll probably declare it as untaxable income and just keep going. My employer paid for my masters and my MBA. Every cent of that was tax free. Employers providing tuition assistance and scholarships is a pretty standard benefit for professional jobs. The IRS has rules in place for that kind of stuff already.
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Apr 10, 2014 16:19
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Ohio State's synchronized swimming team just won the national championship. Congratulations especially to AD Gene Smith on all your hard work, I hope you enjoy your $18K bonus.
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Spacemonkey57 posted:Ohio State's synchronized swimming team just won the national championship. Congratulations especially to AD Gene Smith on all your hard work, I hope you enjoy your $18K bonus. Calm down bro, that's class warfare! Enjoy your free degree and like it! There are far too many people that think like that. But student athletes are sorta like mine workers before unions. Living in the company town, paid with company scrip (the degree), can be fired if they get hurt.
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effectual posted:Calm down bro, that's class warfare! Enjoy your free degree and like it! It's the whole 'kicked out if you don't/can't perform on the field part that really bothers me. They should be obliged to let those kids finish out their scholarship even if they don't stay on the team. Especially if they get hurt playing football. I mean what the hell, that's straight up morally indefensible.
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Apr 15, 2014 06:36
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effectual posted:But student athletes are sorta like mine workers before unions. The hyperbole nearly killed me. President Harding once threatened to conduct air strikes against strike miners. College football labor issues are to miner's labor issues what a dead housecat is to a robotic panther 500 feet tall with laser eyes. Sash! fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 07:12
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I had a long effort post typed up why you are being dumb, but I think the Sash! next to the post will let people know that. Its not a perfect or even accurate analogy, but to pretend that just because their plight isn't as bad means it isn't bad is still pretty dumb.
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Apr 15, 2014 07:46
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Miners had ugly wives/girlfriends too iirc so it was definitely a real bummer for them. Edit: like compared to football players
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Apr 15, 2014 07:56
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effectual posted:Calm down bro, that's class warfare! Enjoy your free degree and like it!
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Apr 15, 2014 12:18
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swickles posted:I had a long effort post typed up why you are being dumb, but I think the Sash! next to the post will let people know that. Its not a perfect or even accurate analogy, but to pretend that just because their plight isn't as bad means it isn't bad is still pretty dumb. You know, it is possible to draw such a preposterous analogy that it just looks ridiculous. Comparing a few thousand guys who may not be getting properly compensated to an armed insurrection that took a century to sort out and cost thousands of lives is, well, dumb.
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Apr 15, 2014 14:29
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Sash! posted:You know, it is possible to draw such a preposterous analogy that it just looks ridiculous. Comparing a few thousand guys who may not be getting properly compensated to an armed insurrection that took a century to sort out and cost thousands of lives is, well, dumb. No analogy is perfect. You're only being so pedantic because you know you are standing for an indefensible position. Trying to trivialize college football players as "a few thousand guys who may not be getting properly compensated" is an incredible understatement considering what they actually go through. The hypobole nearly killed me.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:30
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Chichevache posted:No analogy is perfect. You're only being so pedantic because you know you are standing for an indefensible position. Trying to trivialize college football players as "a few thousand guys who may not be getting properly compensated" is an incredible understatement considering what they actually go through. The difference is that the college players knowingly and willingly entered into the contract of playing football in exchange for a scholarship and an education. They are getting exactly what they were promised. They were under no obligation to play college football, and had plenty of other options. The odd thing about this whole situation is that the anger about their "exploitation" doesn't come from the players themselves, for the most part. It is largely outsiders doing most of the agitation.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:38
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Yes because 17 year olds know perfectly what they're getting mixed up with, and have plenty of other options to become potential millionaires in a few years. Like gangs!
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Apr 15, 2014 16:43
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Deteriorata posted:The difference is that the college players knowingly and willingly entered into the contract of playing football in exchange for a scholarship and an education. They are getting exactly what they were promised.
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Apr 15, 2014 17:02
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Hello 18 year old, please ruin your body for life for this very valuable degree in Communications.
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Apr 15, 2014 17:07
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I wonder if UNC football players have gained valuable tools for the future from the "education" they were promised
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While I am embarrassed that UNC employed a professor like Julius N'yangoro, and completely agree that it's the utmost charge of the university to provide the highest quality academic instruction, I honestly doubt that one or two sub-par classes taught by a single professor, out the entirety of their college education, collectively handicapped the respective educations of our football players for life. Hausfield L.L.P. has done an effective job attempting to link the situation in the media to the unionization movement, a cause I support, but not at the cost of giving credence to Mary Willingham's multitude of incredibly dubious claims, or her "research" that is at best spurious, and at worst fabricated edit: fixed link swizz fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 17:23
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Deteriorata posted:The difference is that the college players knowingly and willingly entered into the contract of playing football in exchange for a scholarship and an education. They are getting exactly what they were promised.
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Apr 15, 2014 20:08
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Crazy Ted posted:But sometimes they don't. Many players who sign scholarship papers don't know that the scholarship is for one year at a time and if their coach oversigns that their scholarship can be taken away from them on a whim. True. There are problems that need to be corrected. The current state of affairs is not good. I personally don't think the way to fix the problems is to blow the whole thing up, however.
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Apr 15, 2014 20:22
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Why would the players having a union blow the whole thing up? They do work for a huge company with tremendous influence and every group of workers should have their interests represented.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Why would the players having a union blow the whole thing up? They do work for a huge company with tremendous influence and every group of workers should have their interests represented. It wouldn't, necessarily. I'm not opposed to the concept of a players' union. Turning the players into professionals would blow it up.
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Apr 15, 2014 20:27
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The NCAA and it's lobbyists are basically using the possibility of the players being able to be "professionals" as the reason they should take no steps in the right direction. So gently caress 'em. Union up, at least get your scholarship guaranteed, get medical care guaranteed, and be able to get some cash so you don't have to eat loving dorm food for 4 years. Maybe be able to buy a car or some poo poo after college?
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Oh no the poor unfortunate parasites, won't someone think of the plight of the parasites!quote:X. YOU MUST KEEP THE CIRCLE UNBROKEN. From The Bag Man Interview about bribes and immoral behavior inherent in every NCAA program. Even the "99% that don't go to the pros" are designed to become broken down tools for the machine. But yes, lets again weep for the parasites.
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Apr 15, 2014 23:41
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Now the NCAA is throwing the 'student-athletes' a bone: unlimited meals and snacks. I guess they finally felt some embarrassment when the star player for UConn basketball talked after their championship about how he went to bed hungry most nights because he couldn't afford food? http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/10787521/ncaa-legislative-council-approves-expanded-meal-allowance
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Apr 15, 2014 23:58
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FlamingLiberal posted:Now the NCAA is throwing the 'student-athletes' a bone: unlimited meals and snacks. I guess they finally felt some embarrassment when the star player for UConn basketball talked after their championship about how he went to bed hungry most nights because he couldn't afford food? I'm betting this is a response to the Arian Foster story about his coach bringing him tacos.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Now the NCAA is throwing the 'student-athletes' a bone: unlimited meals and snacks. I guess they finally felt some embarrassment when the star player for UConn basketball talked after their championship about how he went to bed hungry most nights because he couldn't afford food?  Makes this post even funnier.Sash! posted:You know, it is possible to draw such a preposterous analogy that it just looks ridiculous. Comparing a few thousand guys who may not be getting properly compensated to an armed insurrection that took a century to sort out and cost thousands of lives is, well, dumb. Just a bunch of pampered students. 
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I believe you may know very little about the coal strikes. Step back and think about how "sometimes I didn't get enough to eat," which is bad and wrong, may not be as bad as "50 miners died in a mine cave in after five days of 12 hour shifts and management went 'well there's plenty of Irish.'" Also, you know I've been supporting the idea of outright professional college football for, like, ten years right? Sash! fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Apr 16, 2014 |
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Apr 16, 2014 00:49
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quote:jared lorenzen @JaredLorenzen22 6m 
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He brings a fair point. If he didn't go hungry, how the gently caress did Shabazz?
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Sash! posted:I believe you may know very little about the coal strikes. All we are saying is that you are taking an offhand comment that included the use of the phrase "sort of like" way too seriously.
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Apr 16, 2014 01:00
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swickles posted:All we are saying is that you are taking an offhand comment that included the use of the phrase "sort of like" way too seriously. He provided too much evidence for his argument then, with the allusions of company housing and scrip!
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Apr 16, 2014 01:10
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The winner of the next Super Bowl needs to sign him to a one day contract so he can get a ring.
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Just because the lady next to you is slumped over dead due to miscut puffer fish doesn't mean you can't complain about the hair in your soup or something.
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"Student athletes have it kinda bad, huh" "Oh yeah? 9/11"
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