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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
I think instead of asking to be paid by the schools, what the union would be asking for is the right for student-athletes to go make money on their own, because the schools act like the gestapo when it comes to trying to get cash.

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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

superaielman posted:

Don't be a dick. He's right that this unionizing players would generate tremendous change and could cause irreparable harm to college football.

All the better if it results in an actual minor league with actual professionalism.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Frackie Robinson posted:

That's absolutely what it is, but what do you want the NCAA to do about it?

Relax the amateurism requirements. Allow players to seek revenue on their own.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Thoguh posted:

Any relaxation of amateurism completely changes the entire landscape of college sports. If you want an openly semi-pro league then make an openly semi-pro league. But don't attach it to the school at that point. If you want to take the money and use it to benefit the athletes instead of a bunch of TV and bowl execs, then embrace the money and just pour it into stuff that actually benefits the athletes.

They're already semi-pro leagues, but they get to excercise draconian control over their players while running roughshod over the athletes.

It's not like schools go out and hunt down any attempt by any of their other students to get cash on their own.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Frackie Robinson posted:

Yeah, but if we had a system where schools actually fostered an environment where these guys could actually attend classes and leave with a useful degree, it would be a good system. You'd have immensely increased the future potential of a lot of guys who'd never have had the means to attend college were it not for athletics. That's pretty decent compensation. That's root idea behind this whole system, and it's not a bad one.

You wouldn't see anywhere near the current level of play if that was the priority, and that would probably significantly reduce the money involved. It wouldn't be a horrible thing if that were really true but actual amateur student athletics has been a sham for so long that it's tough to see it as anything else.

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