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Zorak posted:People thought Elspeth would see no play because she was too expensive and didnt "do much". Sure, but that was an objectively poor assessment. Anyone can see how valuable Elspeth is.
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Mikujin posted:No it doesn't. Rev's CMC is only 3 in non-play zones; when you cast it it's CMC is 3+X. Even if it did, the damage would be negligible compared to Rev itself.
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Apr 9, 2014 21:05
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vOv posted:While I was looking for UG X spells to channel all that Kruphix mana into I found this thing. I love looking at old cards where they had an idea they really wanted to do and if that involves 10 lines of rules text, so be it! My favorite card of cards that have no clue what the gently caress is going on is Chains of Mephistopheles mostly because the Oracle text that tries to make it better, is so, so much worse.
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Apr 10, 2014 06:45
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Veyrall posted:Also, Sphinx's Revelation got a whopping two comments about how it looked kinda okay.
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Apr 10, 2014 07:41
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Entropic posted:I remember 4th edition. Everyone was all I remember being salty as gently caress that they took Demonic Hordes out, although in reality they probably took out Demonic Hordes for other reasons.
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Apr 10, 2014 19:07
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about the game being dumbed down for kids because they cut all the cards that had offensive art or referenced demons and airbrushed the pentagram out of Unholy Strength.
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suicidesteve posted:Who remembers Kookus?! For some reason Kookus is on the Reserved List. Speaking of weird text, I like the fact that Chains of Mephistopheles has oracle text that makes no goddamn sense but the original text is perfectly fine. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Apr 10, 2014 20:28
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mcmagic posted:The reason you're playing the 5 color deck (at least in my opinion) is to be able to play both Sphinx's rev and Rakdos's return. If you're playing creatures like Polukranos or SB Dragon you don't need Chromanticore anyway. The issue is that it just NEVER sticks unless you can bestow it on something which is slow as hell and even then it dies pretty easily to just about anything other than Doom Blade. The reason you play a 5 color deck is to live the impossible dream of bestowing a Chromanticore on a Chromanticore.
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Apr 10, 2014 22:35
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Jimmy Jazz posted:How has mutavault destroyed the format? I mean sure it made pack rat super annoying but it's not like revelation or thoughtseize in that it essentially dictates what decks are viable. Because it suffers from the same problem that the original duals run into - almost literally every competitive deck has the card, frequently as a 4-of. And its $35. gently caress Mutavault. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Apr 11, 2014 |
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Apr 11, 2014 18:41
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Does double strike mean that red fellow triggers twice if unblocked? Pharika is really bad. It doesn't even do the same thing dredge decks are doing.
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Apr 14, 2014 05:36
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AnacondaHL posted:Burn in what format? Standard? No, that card isn't interesting at all. It sounds just okay to me because a game where he goes off in a burn deck is probably a game you're already going to win.
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Apr 14, 2014 05:46
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TheKingofSprings posted:She costs 1 more than the Ooze, has an extra black mana in the activation cost, doesn't gain you life or give you a body when you cast her, and can't hit anything but creatures. My biggest problem with her is that she doesn't do anything at all without actively investing your resources into her, which are probably better spent on other spells, many of which in a B/G deck are competing, like Nighthowler.
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Apr 14, 2014 06:00
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Cactrot posted:Jarad and lotleth troll make her pretty easy to online really quickly. If you are playing Jared why would you ever use her, though? They work at cross purposes.
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Apr 14, 2014 06:12
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Cactrot posted:For the indestructible body, ignoring the ability. Dredge is already going for a 5/5 with monstrous that same turn, but indestructibility is also good to have. Which is totally conditional, and if she plays anything like the other gods, I don't see why I would expect her to be activated terribly often.
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Apr 14, 2014 06:17
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AegisP posted:I suppose if you're also running Nylea in your standard dredge deck, then having Deathtouch Trample Snakes would be mildly useful. Yeah but its just a pile on card then. I'd much rather have Nylea than Pharika.
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Apr 14, 2014 06:23
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Count Bleck posted:UR could be silly because you make a shitton of Master of Waves and then they vomit out tokens before dying You can't target something more than once. You also can't target Master of Waves at all because it has protection from red. Actually its a fake target effect, so scratch the second comment.
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Apr 14, 2014 06:39
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TheKingofSprings posted:The same Master of Waves with protection from Red? Its not targeted. The language just says "choose a creature."
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Apr 14, 2014 06:52
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Lunsku posted:We are talking about Twinflame here, right? "Choose any number of target creatures you control" and so on. Yeah I was confusing it with the blue one that lets you copy a creature without targeting.
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Apr 14, 2014 07:54
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jassi007 posted:You mean this card, right? Yeah, we talked about that already. I was thinking of the blue card that lets you copy a creature without targeting.
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Apr 14, 2014 17:50
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Applebees posted:You can tell this was really pushed. It is so much better than Two-Headed Cerberus. I'm just not totally convinced that Flamespeaker isn't just a Win More card since you still have to pay for the drawn spells. Obviously, I could be wrong and it could be a powerhouse. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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Apr 14, 2014 20:25
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Madmarker posted:Little kids don't play against standard decks, they have their deck they made from the 7-8 packs they bought and the event deck/duel deck they talked their parents into buying and their opponents tend to have similar decks as well. When I was a kid playing revised, I never even thought about anything other than convoluted combos that I didn't really understand.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:24
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Entropic posted:Archangel of Thune is better than Serra Angel, but it isn't strictly better. It has one less power and lifelink instead of vigilance. It's "different and better" rather than "exactly the same only better" like Deadbridge Goliath vs. Korozda Monitor in RTR. Baneslayer Angel is technically not "strictly" better than Serra Angel, either, since it doesn't have vigilance. "Strictly better/worse" and "Dies to Doom Blade" are the two criticisms of a card that drives everybody crazy.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:34
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My favorite obscure reason why one card is better than another is usually City in a Bottle. For example, "Mana Confluence is better than City of Brass because it is unaffected by City in a Bottle," or "the Arabian Nights Mountain is strictly worse than every other Mountain because of City in a Bottle." (which isn't true anymore)
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Apr 14, 2014 23:14
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Dr. Stab posted:Primeval Titan isn't strictly better than Kindercatch because Kindercatch gives more devotion. The idea that a card is potentially better because it requires extra amounts of colored mana vs. colorless is kind of funny, actually.
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Apr 15, 2014 00:58
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Big blue creatures have always been expensive with a downside, even back to Alpha.
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Apr 15, 2014 18:44
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Serperoth posted:In your very link there's a common 5/5 blue creature that is situationally unblockable. That's just part of the color, though. You aren't given many choices in big creatures, especially in limited, where you don't have the option to load up on the better stuff at uncommon and better.
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Apr 15, 2014 19:00
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Not to derail from DACK FAYDEN, GREATEST THIEF IN THE MULTIVERSE chat, but I had to step away from MTG Salvation card evaluation threads. They are so, so bad, it makes my teeth hurt. They evaluate every creature as though your opponent has two open mana and a Doom Blade in hand at all times, and every 3-drop as though your opponent has T3 Domri T4 Polukranos in every game. I mostly get annoyed with the phrase "dies to Doom Blade" simply because its an excuse to not explain an often-relevant argument in favor of a slogan.
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Apr 17, 2014 04:59
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Fingers McLongDong posted:How many cards are left to spoil? There have been disappointingly few cards to use in a keranos deck, I was hoping izzet would get more fun spells. New mesmeric fiend is cool though. About half, but we've seen all of the Mythics.
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Gynovore posted:Based on today's poo poo, I'm going to say that unless Jund gets some beefy tools in JOU, Azorius/Esper control will be off the charts until next block. Banishing light and D-Sphere give it eight cards that can handle anything, plus a two-mana instant that makes gods go bye-bye. Sweet. Sure, but those decks have to take something out to put more O-rings in. Getting hit with D-Sphere or Banishing Light isn't necessarily worse than getting hit with Syncopate.
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rabidsquid posted:There's no way I wasn't super stoked about a UW card draw spell! Although I do remember a lot of people going "life gain who cares Blue Sun's Zenith sucked and this is worse" so maybe I wasn't! That's just because people like to repeat the mantra that life gain sucks. But lifegain only sucks in a vacuum where the only choice is Healing Salve.
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I've made tons of rules mistakes. Most of them are just noobish stuff though, like using Abrupt Decay on a D-sphere before the Exile ability resolves.Tardigrade posted:Strangely it seems like, after a quick search, there aren't any creatures that naturally have trample and deathtouch together (Cairns Wanderer doesn't count). I've died to a Deathtouch-Trample interaction and due to not realizing you can't just exile AEtherling after declaring blockers if the attacking creature has trample. I guess that's learning. Loving Life Partner posted:So someone can cast a counter even if the target spell is uncounterable? At least in paper magic? (I mostly play MTGO where I don't think the client would let you, because why would you?) I assure you the client will allow you to. It just won't work. I know because I once absentmindedly attempted to Gainsay a Supreme Verdict. I just lost the Gainsay along with the board wipe. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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qbert posted:I don't understand the mistake here. Perhaps you're thinking of Oblivion Ring? When the D-Sphere comes into play, if you destroy it before the Exile ability resolves, that ability is still on the stack, but the LTB effect from the D-sphere can't retrieve your exiled card. It just stays exiled forever. Serperoth posted:Yes he does. Pharika uses the graveyard as a resource, I don't see where he's wrong. It's pretty weak, sure, but that's what Pharika does, she uses something from the graveyard, to make a permanent. That's what "graveyard as a resource" means. He's missing the point in that Pharika does the opposite of what every other dredge card being printed wants you to do. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Count Bleck posted:So here's a Mack Kayden question. He was tortured or something on some random world. Also, he's Duck Faygo, so its just part of his charm. Cactrot posted:Aren't planeswalkers usually named something like "Duck Fandango, mightiest of Anaheim"? This one is missing a comma and a title. It depends whether they have a last name or not. Ashiok and Xenagos had titles, but Ral Zarek and Domri Rade did not.
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Nibble posted:Pretty sure they tried to explain their guidelines when Kiora's card was first revealed and it wasn't named Kiora Atua. I think basically if the planeswalker has a first and last name, then the first printing of that planeswalker is just their full name. If the planeswalker has one name or has already been printed as first name + last name, then it's First Name, Title. They decided to drop Kiora's last name so she got a title instead. They changed Kiora's last name because they determined it was offensive, right?
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Dear Wizards, this is not a Chimera. This is a Gryphon with a random cow head.
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LordSaturn posted:Having a random cow head is what MAKES it a chimera. Chimeras have a lion's body, a second goat head and a tail that is a snake. 
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I'd really like to see if I can work something out with Doomwake Giant. I'm already playing a BUG control deck, and I think he'd work in there somehow.
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RoleModel posted:Probably just to tick it up to try for an ultimate. I usually just target a land, but I'm more concerned that someone was playing Ashiok. Card is almost always just a distraction. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Apr 20, 2014 |
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GoutPatrol posted:But targeting Ashiok with Kiora is just dumb in the first place. The only planeswalker that can do damage now is Chandra. Targeting Ashiok will just make it so you can't hit him. Yeah, a seemingly common mistake is using the +1 before combat, giving your opponent an invincible chump blocker.
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Entropic posted:Fallen Empires was a set of fantastic flavour and awful, boring, unfun card design. There's about three interesting cards in the whole set, Goblin Grenade, High Tide and Hymn to Tourach. Hymn to Tourach isn't interesting so much as its loving overpowered and obnoxious. Imagine Hymn in standard right now. *shudder*
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If you don't think Hymn to Tourach is totally broken, you didn't play with Hymn to Tourach. The problem with Hymn to Tourach is that random discard means you can discard land out of your hand while you still have a full hand, and even later in the game when you've played all of your cheap threats. Hymn to Tourach might be more random than Thoughtseize, but its more relevant during the entire game than Thoughtseize is.rabidsquid posted:"Necroptence is probably fine let's just hit the other pieces" was the greatest Ban and Restriction List chronicles of our time. The decision to reprint Necropotence in the core set was just super. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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