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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

nwin posted:

So, with Walker resigning, he still could face jailtime, correct? I just read a few pages ago in this thread that Frank might be able to pardon him from this. Is that true?

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Frank pardons Walker, even if it doesn't fit into any long-term personally beneficial plans I do believe that he respects the office of the President enough not to want to see a former President go to jail, even if he despises the man personally (or at least his weakness).

Frank's gained the Presidency now, but he gained that and the Vice Presidency before that by playing political games. His big test now if whether he can actually win an election or even get votes outside of his constituency. His very first act being settling a hostile dispute between China and Japan is sure to be spun as an example of America being respected and feared on the global stage.

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twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

DrSunshine posted:

So was the dealings with China in S2 just foreshadowing for a foreign-diplomacy centered season in which Frank becomes the undisputed master of the world? I can get behind that.

Raymond Tusk had a stick up his rear end about the Chinese even when Frank went down to St. Louis for the first time.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Jerusalem posted:

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Frank pardons Walker, even if it doesn't fit into any long-term personally beneficial plans I do believe that he respects the office of the President enough not to want to see a former President go to jail, even if he despises the man personally (or at least his weakness).

Frank's gained the Presidency now, but he gained that and the Vice Presidency before that by playing political games. His big test now if whether he can actually win an election or even get votes outside of his constituency. His very first act being settling a hostile dispute between China and Japan is sure to be spun as an example of America being respected and feared on the global stage.

I guess it depends on how much it clings to its Richard III roots. I highly suspect that things are just going to go to poo poo almost right away.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
I felt so terrible for Walker. Seems like a good guy who is surrounded by Vipers. When he started figuring out what Frank was doing, I was almost rooting for the guy.

Now i've been thinking how this could all come back to bite Frank in the rear end tho. That letter he gave Walker and ended up burning? He never checked the content of the enveloppe before he threw it in the fire. I wonder if the writers might come back with this as a plot twist at some point. Maybe Walker actually kept it, or had a copy or something like that...

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Dalael posted:

Now i've been thinking how this could all come back to bite Frank in the rear end tho. That letter he gave Walker and ended up burning? He never checked the content of the enveloppe before he threw it in the fire. I wonder if the writers might come back with this as a plot twist at some point. Maybe Walker actually kept it, or had a copy or something like that...

Unlikely, Walker doesn't have the backstabbing and double-crossing character of Frank.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Riso posted:

Unlikely, Walker doesn't have the backstabbing and double-crossing character of Frank.

The more I think about it, the more I think you may be right.. Its kinda sad tho. I want Frank to have a set back and actually struggle. So far, its all been too easy for him. At no point in either seasons did I feel like Frank might be in trouble. Everything bad that happened ended up being non-issues so far.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Oh that is easy to explain. The show features a very unreliable narrator: Frank himself.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
With Season 3 presumably only a few months away, there are some "kind of sort of maybe spoilers" going around based on what actors have said. Notably, even the actors aren't sure if Stamper is dead. :confused:

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008

Lycus posted:

He dead.



I don't see how this is in any way ambiguous.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Mooktastical posted:

I don't see how this is in any way ambiguous.

Tv magic can bring him back. How many shows have killed a character, only to bring him back?

Jasper in The 100 takes a spear to the chest, and is seen walking fine a few episodes later.
my mom used to watch a show in which a guy dies like 10,times and yet keeps comming back.

Never doubt the possible mediocrity of writters

Arm_Fruit
Jul 1, 2013

Dalael posted:

Never doubt the possible mediocrity of writters

Point proven.

But seriously, if Dexter could survive a hurricane, Stamper might survive a bludgeoning. I don't want him to though. Like Dalael said earlier, I too want to see Frank struggle. He's so competent that everything seems to be seamless. I have a feeling this will all change this season, or else this really will be a series of FU's rise to global domination.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Dalael posted:

Tv magic can bring him back. How many shows have killed a character, only to bring him back?

Jasper in The 100 takes a spear to the chest, and is seen walking fine a few episodes later.
my mom used to watch a show in which a guy dies like 10,times and yet keeps comming back.

Never doubt the possible mediocrity of writters

He's just taking a nap. All night. Without moving. With his eyes open. After getting his head bashed in.

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

He's just taking a nap. All night. Without moving. With his eyes open. After getting his head bashed in.

Yeah he's not coming back. If they bring him back after the conclusiveness of that shot, I will consider the shark jumped. Good shows can deceive their audiences (Breaking Bad did a few times) but not just bald faced lie like that.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
Anyone knows when season 3 will happen?

MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica
I still dont really understand what happened to Zoe

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
She went splat, that's what happened.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




WYA posted:

I still dont really understand what happened to Zoe

What happens when you get pushed in front of a subway?

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

WYA posted:

I still dont really understand what happened to Zoe

Imagine House of Cards is a game of poker, with no bet ceiling.
Zoe went in with 5$, and tried to bluff.
Instead of calling her bluff, Frank shoved her in front of an uncoming subway.

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

WYA posted:

I still dont really understand what happened to Zoe

She didn't mind the gap.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

Loyal to the hEnd

WYA posted:

I still dont really understand what happened to Zoe

She caused a whole bunch of people to be late to work.

I always wondered why they went with a fake station and metro line for that scene - did WMATA come down hard against using a real place or something? You'd think they could get some extra tourist bucks.

sniper4625 fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Nov 24, 2014

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

sniper4625 posted:

She caused a whole bunch of people to be late to work.

I always wondered why they went with a fake station and metro line for that scene - did WMATA come down hard against using a real place or something? You'd think they could get some extra tourist bucks.

WMATA might have had a problem with the scene involving a person shoving another person in front of a train.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

Loyal to the hEnd

PassTheRemote posted:

WMATA might have had a problem with the scene involving a person shoving another person in front of a train.

That's what I thought, just wondering if it was ever conclusively stated anywhere. Not really a big deal, given that probably 90% of the audience wouldn't have realized.

:goonsay: My immersion!

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

sniper4625 posted:

That's what I thought, just wondering if it was ever conclusively stated anywhere. Not really a big deal, given that probably 90% of the audience wouldn't have realized.

:goonsay: My immersion!

Awww c'mon. Give people more credit. Look at that scene again. No real metro is that clean.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Mooktastical posted:

Yeah he's not coming back. If they bring him back after the conclusiveness of that shot, I will consider the shark jumped. Good shows can deceive their audiences (Breaking Bad did a few times) but not just bald faced lie like that.

The season 3 cold open will be in a cloning facility outside of DC where a dozen tubes with copies of Stamper are being stored. As the scene plays out, one of the tubes is activated and the Stamper clone wakes up. He reached for a box, grabs a cell phone from it and cooly explains he a bad night. Preferably using a bludgeoning pun.

Or just go full :bsg: and bring him back, acknowledge he did die, then never bother explaining the how.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

The season 3 cold open will be in a cloning facility outside of DC where a dozen tubes with copies of Stamper are being stored. As the scene plays out, one of the tubes is activated and the Stamper clone wakes up. He reached for a box, grabs a cell phone from it and cooly explains he a bad night. Preferably using a bludgeoning pun.

"Sorry for being late, sir. Had a bit of a bad night -- I was out of my head for a while."
"How soon can you get down to my office?"
"I'll be there in two hours, sir."

*opening music*

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
`

Dalael posted:

Awww c'mon. Give people more credit. Look at that scene again. No real metro is that clean.

The DC Metro is :colbert:

Geekslinger
Jan 30, 2005


Pretty much any Metro station in near the National Mall area is almost spotless because of all the tourists. I once took a wrong bus and ended up at Station Armory then hopped on the Metro at the station there and it was scariest dirtiest places I've ever seen.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/1/7313505/house-of-cards-season-3-premiere-date

We're back, February 27th of next year.

Paper With Lines
Aug 21, 2013

The snozzberries taste like snozzberries!
Oh poo poo, Frank looked at me. I'm going to die for sure now.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
loving creepy.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Awsome!

speshl guy
Dec 11, 2012
Stamper was not a good person but like Frank, he's an interesting character for the purposes of seeing how a pragmatic sociopath operates with other likeminded sociopaths.

What I love about this show is that Frank seems to be the only full-blown psychopath. Everyone else in his employ seem to be under his influence or willing to submit to it, yet show flashes of sentimentality here or there. Claire obviously loved Galloway (despite not hesitating to destroy him) and broke down for the first time after failing to pass the sexual assault legislation for Megan Hennessey. Stamper is a different beast in that he's possessive and manipulative, but he's not against showing what seems to be genuine regard for others (giving his ten year pin to the casino waitress).

It's fun to pick these people apart and figure out what actions are directly the result of Frank's corruption and what they would implicitly do regardless. Or whether they just all came together because they were like-minded individuals.

This is a show where I would love an origin story or two.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006

New S3 Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU9QTLXYCCc

Looks like Russia will be a big deal, with Underwood squaring off against a Putin analogue named Petrov (Russian flags aplenty, protestors wearing "STOP PETROV" shirts). Also, lots of on-the-nose shots of Frank and Claire being physically distant.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



And the guinea pig hacker was in a few of the shots too. Everyone out to get Frank.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Does anybody know who is playing Petrov? For a moment I thought it was Lars Mikkelsen but on closer inspection it didn't look like him, I was really excited about it too :sweatdrop:

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Excellent use of 'Counting Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums'

Southy
Nov 18, 2012

Jerusalem posted:

Does anybody know who is playing Petrov? For a moment I thought it was Lars Mikkelsen but on closer inspection it didn't look like him, I was really excited about it too :sweatdrop:

You were right the first time.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-01-12/sherlock-and-the-killing-star-lars-mikkelsen-joins-house-of-cards-series-three

Matinee
Sep 15, 2007

The one thing House of Cards has always lacked is a character with as much eye-drawing screen presence as Spacey. Underwood commands every room he's in a little too much. I'm confident Lars Mikkelsen is up to the task.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

The crisis in Ukraine seems to be taking a weird turn. Not sure how the President of the United States would respond to not-Putin making out with his wife.

The protesters look like they are wearing shirts labelled "STOP PETROV."

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jan 12, 2015

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Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
When you guys said Lars Mikkelsen, my mind went to Mads Mikkelsen.

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