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Jun 6, 2017 22:08
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Instant Sunrise posted:When is Too Human going to be backwards compatible? Probably never. Silicon Knights got slapped down by Epic in court a few years back and can no longer sell or distribute anything they made using the Unreal engine. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/too-human-pulled-from-xbox-marketplace/1100-6402644/
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Jun 7, 2017 04:45
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Well what about Bomberman Act Zero or Over G Fighters?
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Jun 7, 2017 18:18
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Business Insider acting like people care about backwards compatibility
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Jun 9, 2017 01:07
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morallyobjected posted:Business Insider acting like people care about backwards compatibility It does matter. At console launch. Lmao 2 years later after millions of people sell their games At least nobody will gently caress it up next time
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Jun 9, 2017 01:12
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I like BC. For whatever reason going back to last-gen games is easier this time around (maybe it's because this gen's "last gen" universally supports widescreen), and the Secret Sauce emulator makes all the tearing go away. So many god drat games came out for the 360, too, it's a good excuse to go back and play stuff I missed when it gets announced for BC and my local game store has loose discs for $2.
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Jun 9, 2017 01:26
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Yep
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Jun 9, 2017 01:33
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i never have enough time to play all the current games i want to nevermind going back for the ones i left behind
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Jun 9, 2017 01:34
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Awesome! posted:i never have enough time to play all the current games i want to nevermind going back for the ones i left behind Big yep
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Jun 9, 2017 01:36
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TheScott2K posted:I like BC. For whatever reason going back to last-gen games is easier this time around (maybe it's because this gen's "last gen" universally supports widescreen), and the Secret Sauce emulator makes all the tearing go away. So many god drat games came out for the 360, too, it's a good excuse to go back and play stuff I missed when it gets announced for BC and my local game store has loose discs for $2. I think BC is even more important for this generation... HD makes such a huge difference in games. I had no interest in going back and playing SD Xbox games on my Xbox 360. They didn't hold up at all. Xbox 360 HD games still look good on the Xbone though.
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Jun 10, 2017 03:31
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The Grey posted:I think BC is even more important for this generation... HD makes such a huge difference in games. I had no interest in going back and playing SD Xbox games on my Xbox 360. They didn't hold up at all. Xbox 360 HD games still look good on the Xbone though. Didn't the 360's BC Emulator upscale OG Xbox games to 720p by bumping up the framebuffer size?
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Jun 10, 2017 04:20
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Has anyone else been having connection issues, particularly in the UK? I keep getting randomly kicked out of multiplayer games and getting a message in GTA that I'm signed out of XBL but the store seems fine and my iPad hasn't had any issues.
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Jun 10, 2017 14:12
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Well see thread title. Really though, bc is only helping the xbox so much because the ps4 doesn't have it. It stands out because it's actually done remarkably well. Still doesn't change the fact that nearly every current gen game runs better on ps4.
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Jun 10, 2017 14:14
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Instant Sunrise posted:Didn't the 360's BC Emulator upscale OG Xbox games to 720p by bumping up the framebuffer size? It's got an upscaler but it's still upscaling from 480p and there's not much of a positive effect on the image.
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Jun 10, 2017 15:01
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Ineffiable posted:Well see thread title. Helping in the sense of people have a nice thing to say finally on their podcast or in sales and interest among the general public?
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Jun 10, 2017 16:36
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It's not helping at all. Nobody buys an Xbox One for XBox 360 games. It's a slight boost in sales of older games that wouldn't be moving units anymore, but only the digital ones bring any money to Microsoft.
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Jun 10, 2017 17:30
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TheScott2K posted:It's got an upscaler but it's still upscaling from 480p and there's not much of a positive effect on the image. A decent chunk of games on the original Xbox were 720p native or 1080i native on the original Xbox with component cables hooked up to an HDTV. Those'll run in 720p or 1080i on the Xbox 360 if they're otherwise supported by the backwards compatibility. Many people never had anything better than a CRT that could do 480i or 480p with their original Xbox, so when they stuck those games into their new 360 and fancy HDTV, they'd think the 360 was doing something special for 720p or 1080i output.
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Jun 10, 2017 17:31
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fishmech posted:A decent chunk of games on the original Xbox were 720p native or 1080i native on the original Xbox with component cables hooked up to an HDTV. Those'll run in 720p or 1080i on the Xbox 360 if they're otherwise supported by the backwards compatibility. There was an update on bungie.net around the time that the 360 launched that claimed that the 360 would bump up the rendering resolution when running in backwards compatibility mode on a 360. Maybe it was just a Halo-specific thing though. edit: Found it
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Jun 10, 2017 18:07
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fishmech posted:A decent chunk of games on the original Xbox were 720p native or 1080i native on the original Xbox with component cables hooked up to an HDTV. Those'll run in 720p or 1080i on the Xbox 360 if they're otherwise supported by the backwards compatibility. The "decent chunk" was a very small number of games - most notably done FIFA titles and Freedom Fighters. I think Enter The Matrix was the only one to make it to 1080i. TheScott2K fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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Jun 11, 2017 02:14
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TheScott2K posted:The "decent chunk" was a very small number of games - FIFA Street (2?), Freedom Fighters (!), and Crash Team Racing were the most notable. 7 720p and 1080i supporting games. 41 more 720p games. It includes stuff like most of the Tony Hawk games on the system, a decent chunk of the later sports games, the best version of Soul Calibur II, The Warriors, and that Dragon's Lair game that was actually pretty good. In comparison the PS2 has 7 1080i titles and no just 720p games. And the GameCube of course does nothing higher than 480p. fishmech fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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Jun 11, 2017 02:32
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That's still a very loving small number of games, fishmech. Also I'm betting two of those 1080i PS2 games are GT4 and Tourist Trophy, neither of which actually render gameplay above 480p.
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Jun 11, 2017 02:59
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TheScott2K posted:That's still a very loving small number of games, fishmech. Also I'm betting two of those 1080i PS2 games are GT4 and Tourist Trophy, neither of which actually render gameplay above 480p. Almost all of them are on the 360 backwards compatibility list, which is a much smaller list of games than the full 1000 or so Xbox library. A lot of people would have tried them on their new 360, saw that it suddenly played in higher resolution with the backwards compatibility, and mistakenly assume that was a special feature of the backwards compatibility.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:06
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fishmech posted:Almost all of them are on the 360 backwards compatibility list, which is a much smaller list of games than the full 1000 or so Xbox library. A lot of people would have tried them on their new 360, saw that it suddenly played in higher resolution with the backwards compatibility, and mistakenly assume that was a special feature of the backwards compatibility. What about cases like this: https://halo.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=7139 Halo 2 on the original Xbox never originally supported 720p, but it did on the 360.
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Jun 11, 2017 14:49
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Instant Sunrise posted:What about cases like this: https://halo.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=7139 That was a one off thing where Microsoft specifically built the emulator to improve the Halo titles. They did not bother implementing it for other things.
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Jun 11, 2017 14:57
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Freedom Fighters runs like rear end at 720p on the 360 (worse than the Xbox), I bet the thing they did for Halo 2 just doesn't have a similar success rate for other games.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:02
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TheScott2K posted:I like BC. For whatever reason going back to last-gen games is easier this time around (maybe it's because this gen's "last gen" universally supports widescreen), and the Secret Sauce emulator makes all the tearing go away. So many god drat games came out for the 360, too, it's a good excuse to go back and play stuff I missed when it gets announced for BC and my local game store has loose discs for $2. Current gen consoles have one very big quality of life improvement over the last generation: suspend. Assuming it also works with BC games, it alone would make playing old games better on Xbone.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:01
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Suspend is this generation's version of wireless controllers coming with the box - a seemingly minor change that you definitely miss the hell out of when you go back and it's not there.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:04
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TheScott2K posted:Suspend is this generation's version of wireless controllers coming with the box - a seemingly minor change that you definitely miss the hell out of when you go back and it's not there. Yeah the switch, the 3ds, xbox one, ps4 and Vita all have it don't they? I think wiiu doesn't. So pretty much every modern console has it. And they better not drop it ever.
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Jun 11, 2017 17:17
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i never even really use it on ps4. its great on 3ds/vita though.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:08
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Awesome! posted:i never even really use it on ps4. its great on 3ds/vita though. It's great that the PS4 and XBone have Games and apps loaded on different levels so you can suspend a game, watch something online then go right back to playing.
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Jun 11, 2017 21:29
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xbonx
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Jun 11, 2017 22:06
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Behold, a Porsche that looks like all other Porsches
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Jun 11, 2017 22:14
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so how much?
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Jun 11, 2017 22:18
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I'm sorry guys. Nobody deserves this crap, not even you..
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Jun 11, 2017 22:45
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Minecraft in 4K. "We're searching for games that are fresh." Yes you are Phil. You really loving are.
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Jun 11, 2017 22:49
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I missed the first hour is the Xbox One X a new console or just another Xbone revision? I can't tell.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:00
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RBA Starblade posted:I missed the first hour is the Xbox One X a new console or just another Xbone revision? I can't tell. Xbone revision that tightens up the graphics
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Jun 11, 2017 23:04
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TheScott2K posted:Xbone revision that tightens up the graphics So what's the Xbox One S then?
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Jun 11, 2017 23:16
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Well guys I have to apologize. I doubted the XbonX could do real 4k but if the graphics are really as lovely as they have been on every game they showed it just might. This is a loving disaster.
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Jun 11, 2017 23:18
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RBA Starblade posted:So what's the Xbox One S then? An Xbox revision that does what the PS2 Slim did and plays 4K blurays/netflix
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Jun 11, 2017 23:19
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