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The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

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ImpAtom posted:

Eh. Modern stuff is at its worst because it has catered heavily to that but the concept has been around for years. Escaflowne is an isekai and it owns.

I really liked The Twelve Kingdoms, eve if it's hard to follow at first.

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The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

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So John Allison's comics are usually slice-of-life affairs which may or may not have supernatural or paranormal elements. That and his art style means his work, while good, generally doesn't fall into the "badass" category. That said I think this panel from today's Steeple page qualifies.


From Steeple "issue" 20: Extreme Freaks, which sadly is, according to Allison, the last "issue" in the (web)comic.

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

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Air Skwirl posted:

Oh poo poo, steeple was continued online? I'll need to catch up. I loved it in floppy.

Yeah, in early 2020 Allison continued the Steeple series, occasionally stopping while he worked on other comics, such as Solver, which is basically the continuing adventures of Lottie from Bad Machinery / Wicked Things, on his Forward Slash Scare site. He eventually settled on a 22 page "issue" format, on a 3 page a week schedule, although if you subscribed to his Patreon you would get pdf releases of the comics starting with "issue" 10 Christmas with Clovis. Dark Horse published two more volumes of Steeple, which collected the webcomics, but according to Allison they passed on doing a fourth volume, which was part of his decision to wind up the Steeple series.

I've been posting the pages in the Comic Strips thread and Saoshyant has been posting them in their John Allison thread. Here is a link to the Steeple chapter page if you want to catch up. There is also a Gumroad exclusive issue with art by Max Sarin (also available to Allison's Patreon subscribers).

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

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TwoPair posted:

How much time can you stay active while denying yourself a social life or any break time before you go insane? 24 hours minus that

Also remember Superman isn't Bruce Wayne, he has to hold down some kind of job otherwise he'll have to start stealing poo poo himself to get by.

I remember reading an article that pointed out that when you take in to account all the technology Superman owns (from the Fortress of Solitude), Clark Kent is probably wealthier than Bruce Wayne. On the other hand Wayne has more liquid assets.

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

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So John Allison has been releasing a Conan the Barbarian comic on his website. Here are the final two pages of the first "issue".

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

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So this would have been yesterday's page from Conan: The Blood Egg part 2 by John Allison. Pretty good fight scene for an artist who doesn't draw a lot of fight scenes.


Unfortunately Allison got hit with a C&D letter from Conan Properties International a few weeks ago and had to take the comic down, even though as far as Allison could tell Conan is in the public domain in the UK. I only have these pages from when they were up on his Patreon as a pdf when he first released the comic. This also means we won't see the final third issue Allison was working on.

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

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Elfface posted:

There are two possible explanations for this.

One is that the internet counts as an international publication, so he has to deal with the super-crazy American Copyright.

The other is that the C&D is actually completely illegal, but the company was counting on nobody calling them on it.

Both are equally likely.

It's been speculated that, legally, Allison was in the clear it just that CPI's lawyers are bigger than Allison's lawyers and Allison didn't want to fight it anyway.

Allison also did a Batman webcomic and an X-man webcomic, which have also been taken down but Allison never mentioned getting any C&D from Marvel or DC. I'm guessing Allison got away with those two because they were both short, 22-page comics so by the time the companies noticed he had already finished and posted them, as well the fact that Disney and Time-Warner are both big enough that they felt it might not be worth legal action. Allison probably was contacted by Marvel and/or DC, but more gently than a legal order, since those are comic companies were CPI just holds and limerences the trademark to Conan. They probably told Allison something to the effect of, " Hey, nice comics, but could you please take them down after a while".

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The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

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Re: BTAS and the censors, in Batman: Animated by Paul Dini & Chip Kidd they gave some insight into it as well as examples of changes they had to make:

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Some of Batman's greatest conflicts have not been with the Joker or the Riddler, but against a much more excruciating adversary: the censor. Broadcast Standards and Practices (BS&P), ever vigilant to shield America's youth from objectionable program content, closely oversees every script, storyboard, and rough cut, order the omission of action and dialogue they feel is too intesne for the kiddies. Needless to say, theis rarely sits well with the creative staff, chraged with turning out an exciting super hero show week after week.

It has always been a struggle to preserve the dark integrity of Batman's world, though sometimes BS&P cuts prompt the artist to develop creative alternatives to scenes that would be axed otherwise. In “Robin's Reckoning” we were forbidden to show the on-screen murder of Dick Grayson's parents in a sabotaged trapeze “accident.” Director Dick Sebast and his crew staged the action with only the Graysons' silhouettes seen against a circus spotlight. Suddenly their shadows dropped away and the severed rope swung back into frame accompanied by a music sting and the crowd's horrified reaction. The sequence came off just as chilling as if we had actually seen them fall to their deaths.

In all fairness, the BS&P restrictions on Batman, both at Fox and at the Kids' WB!, have been much more lenient than at any other network. One of the unsung heroes of the series was Avery Coburn, Fox's BS&P liaison. We were getting into new territory with this show, and Avery understood exactly what we were going for. She changed the rules for daytime animated series, which were long due for an overhaul. In past Saturday morning shows the hero wasn't even allowed to make a fist, much less hit anyone with it. The idea of Batman as a dark, sometimes violent crime fighter has generally been respected by BS&P, which we appreciate. And in each episode we've come to expect the usual cautionary notes about punches to the face, gunplay, or the inappropriate skimpiness of Harley Quinn's underwear. Still the censors always manage to throw us a few curves, and presented here are our internal comments on the various BS&P notes we've received over the years.

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Bruce, the network says it is not their practice to show animal excrement hitting anyone on a children's show. They want us to cut the bat guano landing on Alfred's jacket and send them a fixed version of the episode.

Page A28: Network says no to Batman slugging Torchy in the gut with his fist. Kicking him, striking him with his whole are or some such is okay.

Page 15: They won't let Scarface call anyone a “Scumbag”

Page 10: It'll break Alan's heart, but Penguin's joke about “picking up all the soap” in prison is out.

Network wants to cut Batman saying “Oh my God” from the audio cassette. They realize it's the logical thing for the character to say in the situation, but fell many religious families would be offend ed by hearing Batman take the Lord's name in vain. It's okay for him to gasp.

Page A59: The third thug must be caucasian.

Page C41-42 Censor says Ras' looks too much like the devil. They want to lose the horned demon mask, glowing eyes, fangs and flames as he emerges from the pit.

Page 19: BS&P says Bane picking up Robin by the head is too easy for a kid to copy with a pet or smaller kid.

Page C16: Censor has a problem with Batman punching the skinny man in the face.

Page C39: Tell Dan he's going to have to restage this so Miriam isn't kicking Batman in the head.

Pages C97, C99, and C124-125: Baby-Doll can't bash Batman in the face with Mr. Happy Head.

Page C58: Robin kicking the thugs in their faces is too much. A body kick is okay.

Pages 4-5: I can't believe they want us to change the scene of the hyenas putting their head into the baby carriage and chowing down!

Page 34: It has to be clear though Harley's dialogue: “I think I made a mess on your cape” that she only barfed.

Pages 15 and 17: Censors want us to be more sensitive toward the families of those with mental illness. As Harley's just been released from the Laughing Academy, they don't want Bullock calling her a “fruitcake” or screwball”

Page A15: It's okay to have Catwoman rake Batman's face, just don't show any blood.

Pages C10, C15, and C21: Censor wants us to figure out someplace for Catwoman to land other than on her face or breasts.

Page 26: We have to make it clear in the board that Batman's kneeing the Walrus in the stomach.

Page 12: Network has a problem with Bruce's line “I'll see you in hell!”

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Early in the series development a list was made up ob Broadcast Standard and Practices taboos, all of which are lampooned in the accompanying illustration by Bruce Timm. How many network no-no's can you find? (Answers below.)

1. Guns. 2. Drugs. 3. Breaking Glass. 4. Alcohol. 5. Smoking. 6. Nudity. 7. Child endangerment. 8. Religion. 9. Strangulation.

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