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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > BSS: Bisexual Super Son > All-New X-Thread: More time travel shenanigans ITT
 
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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
You still had games hyping themselves as the DOOM KILLER or QUAKE KILLER well into the late 1990s. Daikatana didn't come out until 2000, after all.

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
X-Factor didn't sell terribly well, but it sold really consistently which let him get a couple extra years on it. Just Look at the sales from the 200 renumbering to the end:
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X-Factor 	200	$4.99 	Marvel 	36,577
X-Factor 	201	$2.99 	Marvel 	29,732
X-Factor 	202	$2.99 	Marvel 	30,981
X-Factor 	203	$2.99 	Marvel 	28,921
X-Factor 	204	$2.99 	Marvel 	36,573
X-Factor 	205	$2.99 	Marvel 	41,745
X-Factor 	206	$2.99 	Marvel 	40,981
X-Factor 	207	$2.99 	Marvel 	32,082
X-Factor 	208	$2.99 	Marvel 	30,095
X-Factor 	209	$2.99 	Marvel 	29,626
X-Factor 	210	$2.99 	Marvel 	27,548
X-Factor 	211	$2.99 	Marvel 	26,632
X-Factor 	212	$2.99 	Marvel 	26,443
X-Factor 	213	$2.99 	Marvel 	25,403
X-Factor 	214	$2.99 	Marvel 	25,117
X-Factor 	215	$2.99 	Marvel 	25,298
X-Factor 	216	$2.99 	Marvel 	25,256
X-Factor 	217	$2.99 	Marvel 	25,125
X-Factor 	218	$2.99 	Marvel 	24,826
X-Factor 	219	$2.99 	Marvel 	24,766
X-Factor 	220	$2.99 	Marvel 	24,926
X-Factor 	221	$2.99 	Marvel 	24,502
X-Factor 	222	$2.99 	Marvel 	24,794
X-Factor 	223	$2.99 	Marvel 	23,854
X-Factor 	224	$2.99 	Marvel 	23,681
X-Factor 	225	$2.99 	Marvel 	23,507
X-Factor 	224.1	$2.99 	Marvel 	23,220
X-Factor	226	$2.99 	Marvel	23,569
X-Factor	227	$2.99 	Marvel	23,742
X-Factor	229	$2.99 	Marvel	23,667
X-Factor	228	$2.99 	Marvel	23,461
X-Factor	230	$2.99 	Marvel	25,707
X-Factor	231	$2.99 	Marvel	24,362
X-Factor	232	$2.99 	Marvel	24,173
X-Factor	233	$2.99 	Marvel	23,840
X-Factor	234	$2.99 	Marvel	23,821
X-Factor	235	$2.99 	Marvel	24,051
X-Factor	236	$2.99 	Marvel	24,031
X-Factor	237	$2.99 	Marvel	24,854
X-Factor	238	$2.99 	Marvel	23,607
X-Factor	239	$2.99 	Marvel	23,506
X-Factor	240	$2.99 	Marvel	23,223
X-Factor	241	$2.99 	Marvel	22,943
X-Factor	242	$2.99 	Marvel	22,782
X-Factor	244	$2.99 	Marvel	22,193
X-Factor	243	$2.99 	Marvel	22,118
X-Factor	245	$2.99 	Marvel	22,364
X-Factor	246	$2.99 	Marvel	22,165
X-Factor	247	$2.99 	Marvel	22,005
X-Factor	248	$2.99 	Marvel	21,664
X-Factor	249	$2.99 	Marvel	21,211
X-Factor	250	$2.99 	Marvel	22,521
X-Factor	251	$2.99 	Marvel	21,096
X-Factor	252	$2.99 	Marvel	20,929
X-Factor	253	$2.99 	Marvel	20,835
X-Factor	254	$2.99 	Marvel	20,579
X-Factor	255	$2.99 	Marvel	20,442
X-Factor	256	$2.99 	Marvel	20,602
X-Factor	257	$2.99 	Marvel	20,264
X-Factor	258	$2.99 	Marvel	20,154
X-Factor	259	$2.99 	Marvel	20,065
X-Factor	260	$2.99 	Marvel	19,982
X-Factor	261	$2.99 	Marvel	19,781
X-Factor	262	$2.99 	Marvel	20,382
Sure it dipped below 20k at the very end, but it was such a gradual slide I assume they were okay with PAD wrapping it up in his own meandering confusing long-rear end way.

But when they brought the series back...

code:
All New X-Factor	1	$3.99 	Marvel	45,727
All New X-Factor	2	$3.99 	Marvel	32,228
All New X-Factor	3	$3.99 	Marvel	29,915
All New X-Factor	4	$3.99 	Marvel	27,337
All New X-Factor	5	$3.99 	Marvel	26,656
All New X-Factor	6	$3.99 	Marvel	26,029
All New X-Factor	7	$3.99 	Marvel	24,873
All New X-Factor	8	$3.99 	Marvel	24,283
All New X-Factor	9	$3.99 	Marvel	23,720
All New X-Factor	10	$3.99 	Marvel	22,563
All New X-Factor	11	$3.99 	Marvel	22,428
All New X-Factor	12	$3.99 	Marvel	21,352
After that first issue bump it started dropping precipitously until after twelve issues the sales were back down to what they were nearly 100 issues into the last run. And Marvel *does* pay attention to digital/trade sales, I just assume that they weren't that much better.

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

Wanderer posted:

Man, there's an article for you: the bizarre dumping ground of Louise Simonson's late-'80s Marvel output.

I don't think there's a single original character of the lot that didn't end up in limbo, hero or villain.
This is from weeks ago, but in addition to (kinda) Archangel and Cable, there's also Rictor and Apocalypse, who is credited as having first appeared in an issue of X-Factor written by Bob Layton, but he was unnamed and in the shadows and intended to be the Owl. He doesn't appear or get named until she steps in.

There's also Power Pack, but that's not late 1980s per se. The Marvel Wiki has a pretty neat tag feature if you want to see all the Morlocks she created to get murdered, or reacquaint yourself with GOSSAMYR.

Also a problem with the original Stabby X-Force was yeah, they were going against the Purifiers and a bunch of other like relentless genocidal maniacs, so the idea that maybe it's bad to take the lives of Double SuperHitlers is a bad idea never really seemed like a big moral quandary. At least Remender turned it into "killing Hitler as a baby".

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jul 11, 2015

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
I know he wrote significantly more issues, but I feel like putting Whedon in the conversation for "best runs on X-Men" is kind of like putting Jeph Loeb on the list of "best Daredevil runs" for Yellow, or something.

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
The timeline is basically:

1) Morrison takes over "X-Men" and names it "New X-Men", Joe Casey takes over Uncanny.
2) Joe Casey leaves Uncanny, Chuck Austen writes Uncanny for about two years and does the Husk/Angel skyfucking, Juggernaut turns good, the Draco, exploding communion wafers, etc.
3) Morrison leaves New X-Men, Austin switches over from Uncanny to New and immediately writes a two part "oh no that was Xorn, the other Xorn" story to allow Chris Claremont to use Magneto in New Excalibur. Casey stays on the book, which is back to just "X-Men" for another eight issues.
4) Claremont Mark III starts in Uncanny the same time that Austen is mopping up NXM. Then Milligan writes X-Men while Claremont continues on Uncanny.
5) I don't remember any particularly good X-Books coming out from like 2004-2010 but I am probably forgetting something.

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Sep 18, 2015

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