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Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013
ANN has a listing of lengths for several upcoming shows. Encouragement of Climb (god, that name) getting 26 episodes is pretty nice.

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Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013
Akuma no Riddle - Watching this I realized that schoolgirl assassins is starting to feel pretty played-out to me. Otherwise it seems pretty ok. It'll take a few episodes to really get a read on, though.

Gokukoku no Bryhildr - Stop me if you've heard this one. Bland protagonist. Separated from childhood friend. Mysterious transfer student with magical... zzzz. The story might have a little potential, but with everything else being so painfully generic my hopes aren't very high that this will amount to anything.

Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou - Typical, but slightly below-average, guy goes to dorm with weird people anime. I would be willing to bet this turns out to be the kind of show that never really offends you enough to quit watching. But then, after a year or so someone will mention it and you'll think "Oh yeah, that show did exist, I completely forgot about it" and then completely forget about it again.

Isshukan Friends - Requires a lot of suspension of disbelief to accept its premise. There's a lot of real simple solutions like "keep a notebook" or "tell my friends so they can help me out" that seem like they would make the girl's life a lot easier. And I'm also not sure how this premise is going to fill an entire season. Doesn't seem like a bad show but it could easily get old quick.

Kindaichi Case Files R - At this point seems to be basically inferior in every single way to Detective Conan, or even QED. The main character is boring and the only indication he's anything else is two characters standing around talking about how super-smart he is, because we all know that venerable storytelling rule tell don't show. The female lead focuses every ounce of her attention on the boring main character and doesn't seem to have any outside interests or concerns. And then she immediately gets kidnapped. Which is exciting and fresh. Maybe the mysteries are really good? I don't know because they didn't quite get to that in the first episode. Overall not an auspicious start.

Keroro - At three minutes a pop and considering the length of the manga this show might be done in time to avoid the heat death of the universe. But I wouldn't count on it. Seriously, it's like one joke per episode.

Captain Earth - Can't really say much based on the first episode. It was a blur of jargon and mysterious characters and giant robot launch sequences. I want to say that Star Driver had a more engaging first episode, but it's been awhile since I saw it so maybe I'm remembering wrong.

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013
I guess I'll be the contrarian and say I thought Elfen Lied was ok. Although it was certainly over the top in its violence and nudity. I read the manga and never saw the anime, though, so maybe that makes a difference. Basically it felt like a typical magical girlfriend thing with the main character finding a naive, super-powered girl pursued by a shadowy organization. The difference is that the girl was an actual monster who absolutely should be locked up or else she would cause the extinction of humanity. Watching the second episode of Gokukoku no Brynhildr it struck me that the story was really similar except with all the parts that made Elfen Lied interesting stripped out.

Other stuff from this season:

Mekaku City Actors was certainly an animated entertainment program produced in Japan and distributed to televisions around the country. Presumable for people to watch.

Soul Eater Not seemed alright. The strongest part of Soul Eater was the setting and this seems to focus on that. Hopefully without the writers deciding that Black Star also needs to become the terrible protagonist of this show as well halfway through.

Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san seems like its schtick would get old pretty quickly. One girl acts like a dog, the other acts like a cat. Hilarious. Even at three minutes long it was getting a bit tired by the end of the first episode.

Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka was a pretty standard comedy slice of life thing. With quite a bit more fanservice than you tend to expect from the genre, however. Hopefully it was just a first-episode thing to try and get some (terrible, smelly) fans.

Ryuugajou Nanana no Maizoukin was not too terribly cliched in its opening episode. But it's really hard to say at this point what kind of show it's even going to be. There are a lot of directions they could go with it.

Knights of Sidonia seemed pretty interesting to me. The animation is a bit awkward but it didn't bother me too much. I haven't read the manga to compare, though.

Hitsugi no Chaika felt pretty solid in the first episode. I'm apparently the only person who didn't like Scrapped Princess, though. I do recall liking that show pretty well after the first episode as well, so I'm a bit leery of this in the long term.

Ping Pong seemed like a pretty typical sports thing with a more interesting animation style. I don't know if it will surpass Chihayafuru as best sports anime, but I expect it'll be fun to watch.

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

This isn't exactly a phenomenon exclusive to Japan. You hear a LOT of teenage/high school nostalgia amongst people around the world. Even in America, you very commonly hear perfectly normal adults say that their high school days were the best years of their life.

There's a difference between saying that high school was the best years years of your life and having a high school setting dominate your media for anything that's not a game/variety show the way it does in Japan. When you have a grizzled combat veteran of a dozen wars or the hardened assassin who's killed a hundred people and they're 14, that's seriously weird. Or like Macross Frontier where everyone in school is either a famous idol or works part-time as a mercenary fighting aliens. The contortions some of these shows have to go through in order to maintain the high school setting when even college would be 100% more believable are pretty amazing. I think that's a bit beyond the occasional bout of nostalgia you get in other parts of the world.

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Davincie posted:

Doesn't every YA book and film take place in high school or whatever their fantasy equivalent is? Also a poo poo ton of live action in Asia does revolve around high school, some of them really long lasting like Kinpachi-sensei.

There's a difference between characters being teenagers and having the story actually set in a high school. I'm not an expert on YA fiction, but I'd be willing to bet you'd find the former was very common, but the latter was fairly rare. If you look at the stuff that's most popular with teenagers in Japan, it's stuff like One Piece and Naruto where the characters are around high school age but don't actually go to high school. It's when you start getting into late-night niche otaku stuff that you start seeing more of high school as an actual setting. I suppose you could say that dramas and stuff were also predominantly aimed at adults. And that's what makes it kind of strange.

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Zorak posted:

OK this conversation is officially over, good lord

It's bizarre to me how much the moderators of SA hate discussion. It's like they live in terror that maybe some of the people posting here might (gasp) interact or something. They removed the utterly stupid rules from the gamers.txt thread in Games and the first thread made after the change was goldmined within a week.

This is obviously a discussion people want to have since they, y'know, keep trying to have it. Maybe instead of stamping your feet and screaming "NO!" every time people try and talk about anime in the anime forum, you could instead be a loving moderator and moderate the discussion instead of preemptively murdering it? Or I guess we could all go back to posting long, boring lists of shows we're watching that nobody else reads.

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Zorak posted:

Its the anime season thread, not the WickedIcon reminds us why he's been probated and banned four dozen times for being a colossal weirdo thread, that's why.

Maybe not every thread needs to be for arguing this topic. Maybe meta-discussion of forum posting habits is one of the most inane subjects, one of the most tiresome to moderate, and isn't really discussion with value. "Gee, lets argue about how people are being sjw warriors for criticizing an anime for veering softcore porn in a thread that doesn't functionally exist anymore in the thread about the current anime season". Like we really need yet another place to whine about such a clearly fundamental and important topic. Especially since the response has been almost entirely "uhhh duh" beyond people getting themselves probated.

I kind of expected the "this isn't the place or time" response. I am curious what the correct place and time is, though. The sexism in anime thread? Oh wait, you gassed it immediately. Individual show threads? Not unless you want a probation for "derailing" by talking about stuff that happened in the show you're supposed to be discussing. The season thread which has approximately 5,000 derails per page? Nope, this one specific derail out of the millions is not allowed. 4chan?

So people want to argue with each other. Who cares? What's it hurt? As long as it's off in its own little place where people can ignore it if it offends their sensibilities so much to be called a weird dumb pedo for liking a weird dumb pedo show about a blank everyman who systematically rapes his way through his family tree, what's the problem?

Zorak posted:

Or you could do something more valuable with your time. Like read a book.

I couldn't help but notice you posted this in response to yourself. Are you trying to tell yourself something :crossarms:

Waffleman_ posted:

Journey to the West. It's like a 90s anime except with words.

This is the original anime from which all other anime spawn. The best part is, if someone asks you what you're reading you can say "Oh, just one of the great classics of Chinese literature :smuggo:"

Seriously, though, at one point the (all male) heroes accidentally drink from an enchanted spring that magically causes pregnancy and have to desperately search for the mythical well of abortions before it's too late.

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Sir Gladu posted:

Here, apply this to every time a show some people like use fanservice: "Yep it sure is a bad thing that this show objectify women. Now you can : 1. Start watching better shows. 2. Stop watching anime. 3. Accept that this one is flawed and dumb but still can be entertaining and that you are not going to change it or the japanese industry with your whining."
Your choice to drop a show because it has fanservice is valid, but please don't restart the eternal fanservice slapfight because people choose 3.

You can say this about any criticism people come up with. But for some reason people don't get mad when you say a show has a dumb plot or boring characters. Remember the last derail was started by some guy whining about people bringing up fanservice as a reason they don't like shows and intimating that they actually don't find it objectionable at all but are just trying to lord their moral superiority over everyone else.

I don't want ADTRW to become like games, where any talk about how you might find something objectionable is banned, not because it's an invalid argument, but because of the inevitable flood of shitposters screaming "Go back to tumblr". I should be able to call a creepy loving pedo show a creepy loving pedo show, even if that makes the creepy loving pedos who love it really angry. It was bad enough not being able to say Kill la Kill was dumb and creepy without Zorak jumping all up your butt. If that's how it's going to be here from now on then how the gently caress is this place any different from any other dumb, creepy forum about anime on the internet?

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Zorak posted:

the vast majority of people agreed

No offense, but it's pretty easy to get consensus when you threaten to probate anyone who disagrees. Maybe that's not how you saw the situation, but it's definitely how it felt. I read ADTRW because it's one of the only anime forums that's pretty much free of stupid "mai waifu" poo poo and gigs of gifs of nearly naked little girls all over the place. In the past year I've felt a very distinct decline in those standards. A few season threads ago someone brought up "My little sister can't be this cute" and you said pretty firmly "No. We don't talk about creepy sister loving anime here". And then we get here with the sister loving show du jour of the season getting a worrying amount of "Well yeah there's some sister loving but...". I just feel like a lot of this poo poo wouldn't have flied a year ago. But you're right this isn't the thread for it. Once again, though, there isn't any thread for it. We used to get "State of ADTRW" threads periodically. If I were more conspiratorially-minded I might find it odd that we haven't gotten one in the past year or so.

In the interest of being on-topic here's a list of shows from this season that are both pretty decent to watch and mostly fanservice-free:

Mekaku City Actors
Isshukan Friends
Hitsugi no Chaika
Ping Pong
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (unless fabulous burly men counts as fanservice)

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

ViggyNash posted:

It's obviously implied.

Sure, we'll go with that. Actually I'm not watching it because I want to catch up on the first season and I'm bad at doing the marathon thing. And yes, I know it's episodic and I could just jump into the new season. That's not how I roll.

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The best part about this post is that, of the four of these I've seen, the only one I can recommend without caveats is Ping Pong. Hitsugi no Chaika rises above creepy moe poo poo but it's obvious that's the core of it's pitch. Jojo is pretty creepy about how it portrays women this season, including a highly sexual possession sequence. Mekaku is pretty tame for a shaft series but so was Nisekoi before it's swimsuit episode.

Like, this is kind of unavoidable. Like a huge chunk of anime is back-of-the-video-store straight up porn, and it used to be a much bigger part before late-night anime caught on. Stuff is much tamer now but most of these shows are still trying to capture the audience that used to rent that kind of thing. It's kind of surprising it's not worse.

The only way an anime fan can stay sane is by mocking the shows that get stupid, enjoying the shows that are cool, and not being a creep about our animated drawings to replace women. That balance works differently for different people but I for real think that we do a pretty good job.

Well obviously you have to watch every Shaft show with the expectation that a naked little girl might pop up at any time or that the main character might spontaneously decide to spend an episode molesting his little sister. I generally like Shaft's style but this is the first show of theirs in really long time I've been able to watch, so I hope it stays the course.

I also think it's dumb to criticize Chaika for some imagined moe-bait. There's enough actual terrible poo poo in anime that we don't have to go making up more of it.

And JoJo is a product of its time. I feel like the series does get better with female characters as it continues.


You are completely and utterly missing my fundamental point. But clearly you don't really care so whatever.

Joshlemagne fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Apr 30, 2014

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

I just checked and Commie kept that translation until the end. If it was a joke, you'd think they'd have given it up at some point.

I'm pretty sure it had an alternate track with a normal translation. And also if there's one thing that nerds love, it's running a joke so far into the ground it comes out the other side of the earth.

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Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

https://twitter.com/stella_c3bu/statuses/472617254694424576
Apparently there's going to be some C3-bu announcement soon?
Seeing as the anime sold so badly the manga was cancelled I've got no idea what the gently caress they could have to announce.

My prediction is that the makers of the show are going to apologize for existing, ritually disembowel themselves, then meticulously spell out "Watch Sabagebu" in their entrails before peacefully expiring.

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