Linux: is the machine running fedora or just the user

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Symbolic Butt posted:

it feels good to ssh to a linux machine

linux is rad

same

there's something about it that feels more "computery"

# ¿ Mar 21, 2014 13:48

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 00:55

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i really enjoy it when this thread talks about system administration stuff, because i have to do a little of it, but i don't have deep expertise or education about it :tipshat:

# ¿ May 2, 2014 19:43

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Socracheese posted:

linux is a lot like communism in that it looks good in principle but in reality you always end up with a sweaty south african taking control of everything and making nothing but bad decisions

charlize theron is from south africa

# ¿ May 3, 2014 01:39

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The Management posted:

the problem is that linux is designed by committee, literally the homercar of operating systems

wasn't the homercar designed by homer?

# ¿ May 4, 2014 17:24

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ShadowHawk posted:

As someone who spends about 90% of his development time cleaning up Debian-inherited messes, I seriously don't understand the endorsement for it that keeps getting cargo-culted around here. The whole point of Ubuntu was to polish up Debian and release it on a regular basis, and it still does that.

If you're saying to stay away from Ubuntu cause you don't like the default desktop and don't want to install a different one but can somehow manage the debian install process that forces you to then lol

i believe he hates ubuntu because they don't do a lot of testing of their packages before releasing them, and the stability suffers

# ¿ May 19, 2014 17:38

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saucepanman posted:

trying to find rpms for centOS or trying to recompile packages was a pain in the rear end so i switched to ubuntu

probably need to grow a longer neckbeard to boost my powers

it would be super cool if centos got updated packages more often

# ¿ May 19, 2014 17:51

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Smythe posted:

i did it. now i can use the wizards.com d&d character builder for me elite sesh 2nit. peep the stream if u dare

you have to pay for that? drat, i was gonna fool around with it for a bit

# ¿ May 26, 2014 21:49

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

the fact that osx was able to pass SUSv3 is the final word on how loving bad and useless SUS is

serious question: what's wrong with it?

# ¿ May 26, 2014 22:37

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Malcolm XML posted:

greybeard implies some sort of competence cloaked in knowing condescension

bsd displays neither

bsd can definitely act like a jerk, but he's displayed good judgement on the subjects of builds and deployments and that kind of thing -- his head is in the right place there

# ¿ May 28, 2014 13:19

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

a distant family member sells and maintains pumps. he has lots of pump opinions. your choice of pump brand/design is v. important to him.

i work with linux for a living go figure what i give a poo poo about

you like debian, right? this looks pretty neat: http://ci.debian.net/

# ¿ Jun 12, 2014 18:17

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Mr Dog posted:

(i had a Windows 7 BSOD while composing this post. go figure. the partially composed text was there when I restarted firefox though so that's pretty neat)

I am amazed that this is still an issue in 2014. Like, HD Audio has been standardised for years and years now. Windows has a generic driver for HD Audio controllers so I'm guessing Linux should have one too, why doesn't it work?

if sound and printing were easy, it wouldn't be linux

# ¿ Jun 12, 2014 19:50

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Bloody posted:

what the gently caress is ddate

also does it ship with sl?

ddate is for discordian-format dates

i don't think sl is part of centos, though

# ¿ Jul 22, 2014 19:00

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Suspicious Dish posted:

We can't include every app out of the box. That's what a good app installation experience is for.

you should include all the apps that i want out of the box

p.s. have you guys updated your git package yet? :pray:

# ¿ Jul 23, 2014 13:07

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ii oh el posted:

best i can steal:

why would you have a product where the name is abbreviated as "wince"?

# ¿ Aug 13, 2014 11:44

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Soricidus posted:

you know your desktop linux is in trouble when it's less user-friendly than debian (which is the best os, but god i'm glad i don't have to set it up again)

apt-get is pretty nice, in my limited experience

# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 00:50

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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

anyone who says they like linux actually only likes the bounre shell

is korn shell still popular?

# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 00:52

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pram posted:

its still the default shell in aix. well at least in <6

aix still exists? :monocle:

i used to "own" a quad-alpha digital unix box. loved that thing

# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 00:54

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pram posted:

yes aix still exists and it isnt even that obscure. see: any legacy enterprise poo poo that needs DB2

oh, yeah. db2

makes sense now

i used to work at a place that had a machine named "db2". it was running sql server. always bothered me

# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 00:58

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Soricidus posted:

ksh is a thing among refugees from solaris too.

i know a couple of graybeards who still use csh, god only knows why.

i remember situations where csh was an improvement over the alternatives :corsair:

# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 01:22

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Symbolic Butt posted:

wait how do you do stuff in your servers then

prediction: the answer will be ansible/chef/puppet/something like that

# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 02:43

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Progressive JPEG posted:

is mir cancelled yet

it fell out of the sky a decade ago

# ¿ Aug 18, 2014 11:12

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BobHoward posted:

where did the group name wheel come from anyways, i know the names of the neckbeard prophets and a lot of eunuchs history but not that

also pls do not put a linux on the desktop

The term is derived from the slang phrase big wheel, referring to a person with great power or influence.[1]

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 01:30

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Sniep posted:

nice wikipedia quote couldn't even source it from the jargon file

wheel: n.

[from slang �big wheel� for a powerful person] A person who has an active wheel bit. �We need to find a wheel to unwedge the hung tape drives.� (See wedged, sense 1.) The traditional name of security group zero in BSD (to which the major system-internal users like root belong) is �wheel�. Some vendors have expanded on this usage, modifying Unix so that only members of group �wheel� can go root.

eric s raymond is kind of a douchebag, so i don't use his stuff for citations any more

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 01:44

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Sniep posted:

esr is a total joke and that comic with "i'm with them" explains him perfectly

but the jargon file that he prides himself on is at least mostly accurate, just includes a lot of fluff that pertains to his little world he dreams he lives in

he bothers me, because i actually bought a printed copy of "the hacker's dictionary" a million years ago, and i really enjoyed a whole bunch of it

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 01:49

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Suspicious Dish posted:

what's the lumpy white-and-red thing?

# ¿ Aug 31, 2014 01:43

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Captain Foo posted:

I'm actually the idiot that doesn't know what skeumorphic means

i have to look it up every so often to find out -- i think it means that the icon for a folder you store digital files in should look like a real-life folder you would store real-life files in

# ¿ Sep 12, 2014 14:39

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Symbolic Butt posted:

so I noticed that some of my students were opening the terminal and immediately typing su and I asked why, I mean, we were just p-langing some stuff

"oh, the linux teacher taught us to always be root, without it you can't do anything on the terminal"

# ¿ Sep 16, 2014 11:15

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Symbolic Butt posted:

it's kinda funny how it looks like he's grimacing all the time in that video

if you had to spend so much time organizing kernel developers, you'd grimace, too

# ¿ Sep 19, 2014 11:08

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i have to find my first edition copy of "mastering regular expressions". maybe the best technical book i've ever read :allears:

# ¿ Sep 25, 2014 13:39

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Suspicious Dish posted:

Here, I'll reproduce my copy for you:

ouch

# ¿ Sep 25, 2014 16:49

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Symbolic Butt posted:

ugh

what if you're using gentoo?

# ¿ Oct 17, 2014 14:29

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api call girl posted:

os x decided to use ntfs streams for metadata instead of dotfiles between one version and the next

without a transition compatibility phase

ntfs like the windows filesystem?

# ¿ Oct 18, 2014 20:21

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i remember being tempted by beos after reading "in the beginning was the command line"

# ¿ Oct 20, 2014 12:47

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oval office AND PASTE posted:

see yall next week for "browser tabs are for idiot children"

# ¿ Oct 24, 2014 12:34

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Progressive JPEG posted:

with two more systemd-related resignations from debian over ian jackson, even bruce perens has joined in

that russ allbery letter is pretty good -- he goes out of his way to be reasonable and polite

# ¿ Nov 17, 2014 19:17

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BobHoward posted:

off to a new jorb in which i fully expect to use a linux on a desktop

assuming i have the ability to install my own (i don't know yet, old jorb i ended up being my own unix sysadmin) is there a good reason to use fedora over rhel/centos 7? engineering tools always support rhel exclusively but if fedora isn't wildly incompatible and offers benefits over rhel i might try it

you'll probably have a much easier time getting newer rpms for fedora

# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 18:58

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pseudorandom name posted:

The one where if you're in the wheel group you're allowed to do things.

raymond chen just posted something similar: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2014/12/17/10581257.aspx

# ¿ Dec 17, 2014 19:09

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ShadowHawk posted:

they never did

if you did a search in the unity dash for something one of the handlers for that search would anonymize the data, run it through an anonymizing proxy, then query amazon for the same term and return the results (with a +canonical referral link included).

After everyone complained easy UI to disable it was added in the next release, and I believe today it's off by default.

they include a referral link? that's pretty lovely

# ¿ Dec 22, 2014 13:21