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Grouchio posted:So Trump signed a trade deal with China. What to make of this? trump is a paper tiger
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Peven Stan posted:This year will surely be the year the PRC economy completely melts down -forjar38, 2011- I agree, the Dzungar genocide and continued occupation of Tibet and Xinjiang are pretty messed up things.
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May 13, 2017 01:01
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Peven Stan posted:Nice whataboutism, typical from internet white males. not a man, only partly white also lmao, way to take the tankie tack "the only imperialism is American imperialism" it's ok to acknowledge the fact that modern china is still empire at heart, friend like it's pretty dumb to ignore that whole scene esp. in light of that whole seizure of Uighur ids not six months ago more than one thing can be bad at once E: Peven Stan posted:Nice crocodile tears for a country that America literally owned from 1898 to the 40s. glad to know my identity is a punchline to you and automatically means apologizing to subjugators? like lmao, glad u think everybody besides han should gently caress off stone cold fucked around with this message at 01:55 on May 13, 2017 |
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May 13, 2017 01:52
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MrNemo posted:Hey hey hosed Stone Cold, Britannia ruled these waves when the USA was still pirating novels! Although as a son of Irish immigrants I guess I should just be angry about that but we were pretty complicit in the whole project. I think we should all be held accountable for that imperialism but China should be forgiven and granted a blank slate for past crimes. hey let me lean in and tell you a secret all oppression is bad and getting mad about what the prc is doing in xinjiang and tibet is a ok
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R. Guyovich posted:imperialism being a specific stage of capitalism and not "a government doing things" goes all the way back to lenin and has plenty of theoretical backing. that definition clashing with a more broad use of the term doesn't make it an incorrect framework ok so are we pretending that xinjiang and tibet aren't exercises in imperialism like lmao for xinjiang it's in the name
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May 13, 2017 18:20
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icantfindaname posted:Here's a good post about urban planning in china and how the government still practices Really Existing Socialist style policies to try to evenly distribute urban growth throughout the country and to keep a sizeable rural population Counterpoint: the urban/rural hukou split is actually pretty bad and basically has created a quasi caste system.
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May 13, 2017 19:06
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icantfindaname posted:That's exactly what that post is saying. The hukou exists in order to facilitate that kind of socialist planning. Just letting anyone who wants to move to Beijing or Shanghai do so is what the World Bank recommends instead. Chinese planners instead have Soviet-era ideas about the proper balance between large cities, small cities and the countryside Oic, I read the Batson and it didn't really seem all that condemning in terms of tone. 
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May 13, 2017 19:17
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Would it even really be feasible to have that magnitude of..I guess you could call it a 'people-rush' to urban areas? It's one thing to take theory that the GDP would be that much larger if things had been unrestrained, but how in the world could they manage that magnitude of migration...I mean the numbers would be staggering. There's already a ton of rural hukou people living in the cities illegally. Like at least 200 million as of 2010. Also, it's real bad. quote:Life for a city dweller with a rural hukou is difficult. Their hukou denies them urban welfare and access to public housing. It also excludes them from publicly funded health-insurance schemes. Since fewer than 3 percent can afford health insurance, most avoid medical care altogether. City judges often impose harsher sentences on rural migrants, and employers frequently withhold wages, knowing undocumented workers cannot complain to police without risking exposure.
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May 13, 2017 19:23
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Squalid posted:Obviously not, or rather he was asserting that 'imperialism' per se can be defined in a specific technical sense as outlined by Lenin which would not include events like the Qing occupation and conquest of Tibet, even if they conform with the conventional or popular understanding of the word imperialism. The current occupation of Xinjiang is one absolutely motivated by economic exploitation though given the oil and natural gas reserves.... Like, really? e: It just seems like it's a pretty clear cut case of core exploiting the periphery e2: oh wait you're the "let's dissect historical pedophilia" guy lmao stone cold fucked around with this message at 20:04 on May 13, 2017 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:That's why I voted for Trump lmao gj idiot you done hosed up you irredeemable racist
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May 15, 2017 23:37
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Peven Stan posted:Why won't somebody think of the snakes??? -American concern troll -han supremacist peven stan
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Peven Stan posted:Source your quotes fojar France has 4 carriers, 3 of which are helicopter, China has 1. Moreover, while China has been undergoing more and more blue-water operations, is it recognized as a blue-water navy? I know France obviously it is, but is China there yet? France totals 10 military bases abroad: Antilles, French Guiana, New Caledonia, French Polynesia, Mayotte, & Djibouti, Cote D'Ivoire, Gabon, Senegal, and the UAE. While China also has significant ground presence in Africa, it has only one facility in Djibouti and is looking to expand to Pakistan. So when we're talking hard power and the ability to project force, it's not a controversial thing to say. e: Krispy Kareem posted:I'm going to guess it's because France has a nuclear aircraft carrier while China still needs to gas up. probably mostly this lol
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Jun 28, 2017 03:18
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Peven Stan posted:France has a bunch of bases in former colonies to keep on eye on the locals, what a droolworthy measure of power projection do you know what hard power is
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Jun 28, 2017 03:29
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Fojar38 posted:France has been fighting ground wars in Africa and the Middle East for the past decade or so. China's ability to project power even into its coastal waters is still limited. Is it green- and brown-water essentially?
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Jun 28, 2017 03:33
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Peven Stan posted:HIlarious how liberals are basically neocolonialists at heart observing that France has more military bases than China and therefore has a higher capacity to project hard power=full throated endorsement of the French military, any given state's possessions abroad, neocolonialism if you read the numbers it's the equivalent of doing an imperialism e: stone cold posted:do you know what hard power is
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Jun 28, 2017 03:40
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fishmech posted:You're neglecting that France also has the ability to use a bunch of NATO ally bases, beyond just the bases they outright own. fair enough
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Jun 28, 2017 03:49
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Potato Salad posted:On the other hand, money. Well, like for example, look at the Taiwan-Panama-PRC change up. Money!
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Jun 28, 2017 04:13
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oohhboy posted:Depending on how you count because Marines. I'm not talking about the US, though, like, I'm talking about the precious few states that recognize Taiwanese sovereignty. Like, it's down now to what....19?
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Jun 28, 2017 04:47
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oohhboy posted:19 is right according to the wiki. Well, yes. I believe the term is what, TECO? Recognition of sovereignty, though, still matters.
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Jun 28, 2017 05:12
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Fojar38 posted:Chinese debt hit 300% of GDP as of May.  quote:"The household debt-to-GDP ratio hit an all-time high of over 45 percent in the first quarter of 2017 —well above the Emerging Market average of around 35 percent. In addition, our estimates based on monthly data on total social financing suggest that China's total debt surpassed 304 percent of GDP as of May 2017," the IIF noted.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Isn't all debt State debt in a communist country? the big four banks in china (boc, ccb, icbc, and abc) are state owned and a number of banks are owned in majority by the public or by municipalities or the sars but that being said, there are a number of commercial banks in china both domestic and international iirc the banking commission just allowed five new ones to open within the last couple of years so
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