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OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

illrepute posted:



If you haven't heard of this person before, get excited, because it's about to get weird.

Samwise Gramsci is a terrific twitter handle.

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more friedman units
Jul 7, 2010

The next six months will be critical.
She's blatantly trolling, some of the stuff she says is too over the top to be anything else. You'd think Google would tell her to shut up already and stop making them look bad.

illrepute
Dec 30, 2009

by XyloJW

BUSH 2112 posted:

If I found out tomorrow that the person who wrote that garbage had gotten hit by a bus, I'd have a cheerier day than I would have otherwise. Bonus points if it's a Google bus, of course.

She claimed (whether or not any of this is true I dunno; I'm still not sure whether or not she's real) to have bitcoins with Mtgox so there you go.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

DrProsek posted:

So if the petition passes and Obama steps down, does Schmidt have to run for office or do we follow the petition's orders and Schmidt just becomes president instantly? I mean to a pleb like me it seems like a bad idea, but then I'm not a CEO so I guess I'm an idiot.
Freedom Through Dictatorship. This is quite the popular libertarian idea ironically.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Also she was the typical left wing nut until she got a high paying gig at Google and then started to do the standard CEO tech startup genius worship.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Is that at google? Do the halls of google contain infinite simulacra of American recreational settings?

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Maybe I'm missing something, but what point does the photo serve exactly?

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.
So, Eripsa, Justine Tunney, Serewit, and Arkane walk cyber-teleport into a bar Mind-Interface Alcohol Dispensary (MIAD, pronounced "mead") in the San Francisco Google Autonomous Republic....

America Inc. fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Mar 22, 2014

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

Negative Entropy posted:

So, Eripsa, Justine Tunney, Serewit, and Arkane walk cyber-teleport into a bar Mind-Interface Alcohol Dispensary (MIAD, pronounced "mead") in the Google Autonomous Republic....

And then they meet Nick Land...

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

more friedman units posted:

She's blatantly trolling, some of the stuff she says is too over the top to be anything else. You'd think Google would tell her to shut up already and stop making them look bad.

If she's trolling she's been participating in an utterly consistent troll for the past 5 years in every available record of her discussions.

And I don't think she's Andy Kaufman enough for it.

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.
Brochure image of Eric Schmidt's Google Autonomous Republic in former San Francisco:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Negative Entropy posted:

Brochure image of Eric Schmidt's Google Autonomous Republic in former San Francisco:


I remember reading some nutty startup dork talks about how the bay area should just leave the USA and start a regulation free libertarian paradise.

aka chance to hunt crazy homeless people in SF

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

SedanChair posted:

Is that at google? Do the halls of google contain infinite simulacra of American recreational settings?

There's too many women and zero ball-pits with balding 20 year olds playing in them. No.

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!
How is "magic computer runs everything" fully developed capitalism?

I mean, this isn't anything I haven't heard before, but I still don't see how the logic train departing from Liberal Capitalism Station ends up at Friend Computer Junction in the minds of libertopians.

Ernie Muppari fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Mar 22, 2014

more friedman units
Jul 7, 2010

The next six months will be critical.

Install Windows posted:

If she's trolling she's been participating in an utterly consistent troll for the past 5 years in every available record of her discussions.

And I don't think she's Andy Kaufman enough for it.

I can't buy it, she's way too ridiculous:

Justine Tunney posted:

@MikeAnissimov That's because I agree with you guys on a couple things. I guess you could say I'm the left-wing of the dark enlightenment.

or:

Justine Tunney posted:

Read all the cruel and awful things people say about me: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22justine%20tunney%22%20-justinetunney&src=typd&f=realtime … I now understand why the 1% doesn't want to help anyone.

Everything she posts reads like someone who's trolling and enjoys the negative attention.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Is there a different meaning to Technocrat than I know? I thought it meant government by technical experts, e.g., you'd have public health experts in charge of public health.

You're correct. The problem is that governance via scientific and engineering expertise means creating policy that adheres to these goofy loving models that sometimes work, and sometimes don't. Even for something as simple as for-profit widget creation, huge corporations are surprisingly hit and miss. Like Microsoft - yeah they dominate some markets, but the Zune? Bing? Do you want a healthcare law as well considered as Bing?

As lovely as our current governance system is, it's a kludgy dirty ad-hoc thing that reflects real human behaviors like compromise and bargaining and bureaucracy which manages to catch a surprising amount of edge cases and conditionals without being explicitly designed for such. It would be way the hell worse if some dickhead CEO just started dictating policy one day that will stick around for decades.


Nessus posted:

Don't sully the good name of technocracy with Google, the technocrats were basically socialists with a thing for water projects and had a motorcycle corps.

Thank Satan that technocracy was a political force back when technology was like engineering and pressure manifolds and huge god damned concrete monstrosities and not Big Data and the Cloud. gently caress that poo poo.

Dolash posted:

Maybe I'm missing something, but what point does the photo serve exactly?

I personally interpret it as the ideal dreamworld that high end software engineers inhabit which allows them the luxury of cooking up these ridiculous solutions to common problems with which they are completely out of touch. I know software engineers who make poo poo tons of money but are still pretty much grounded to a realistic existence and then I know some folks who work for googlesque sized corporations and the difference is pretty extreme because some of the latter jokers sincerely believe the Singularity is a thing that will happen, soon.

more friedman units posted:

Everything she posts reads like someone who's trolling and enjoys the negative attention.

I've discovered after a decade of posting on SA that you're often suspicious of idiocy as trolling but it turns out people really are that stupid and unsubtle about it.

SA is kind of a vanguard laboratory of modern communication. Which is totally horrifying.

boner confessor fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Mar 22, 2014

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!

more friedman units posted:

I can't buy it, she's way too ridiculous:


or:


Everything she posts reads like someone who's trolling and enjoys the negative attention.

Eh, that sounds exactly like the sort of goofy-rear end-yet-distressingly-ernest poo poo that most of the libertarian "engineers" I've known have spouted.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I also work for a software startup whose founder and CEO idolizes Bay Area startup culture without having the finances to follow through. If you can envision my situation, please pray for me. It's a toxic, hypocritical thing and if this is the best we can come up with in the 10's decade we're kind of hosed.

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

Popular Thug Drink posted:

I also work for a software startup whose founder and CEO idolizes Bay Area startup culture without having the finances to follow through. If you can envision my situation, please pray for me. It's a toxic, hypocritical thing and if this is the best we can come up with in the 10's decade we're kind of hosed.

Are you at least in the Bay Area so you can enjoy the weather?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

The Warszawa posted:

Are you at least in the Bay Area so you can enjoy the weather?

No, I live in the South where wages and cost of living are both low. But the weather is about as nice as it gets in the US outside of Cali, maybe more so since we have seasons.

OwlBot 2000
Jun 1, 2009

more friedman units posted:

I can't buy it, she's way too ridiculous:


or:


Everything she posts reads like someone who's trolling and enjoys the negative attention.

I wonder if she knows what "Dark Enlightenment" is? It's cryptofascism.

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

OwlBot 2000 posted:

I wonder if she knows what "Dark Enlightenment" is? It's cryptofascism.

Considering her own views are cryptofascist I think she is probably aware.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I can't be too mad at people for wanting to believe in the Singularity. Existential dread sucks and I bet it hits smart people really hard, it's like heaven for nerds.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I can't be too mad at people for wanting to believe in the Singularity. Existential dread sucks and I bet it hits smart people really hard, it's like heaven for nerds.

It becomes dumb when people preach about the Nerdrapture happening in their lifetime (any day now!). It's slightly less ridiculous than preaching the world is totally about to end (any day now!).

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

AstheWorldWorlds posted:

Considering her own views are cryptofascist I think she is probably aware.

It's really easy to believe that your beliefs are fantastic and wonderful and liberating while completely ignoring how you're subjecting others to hardships and misery.

Like, "Oh hooray for me I made a great app that connects people and is a disruptive force to the status quo" when you're thinking of entities that exist only in the context of internet capitalism. You're investing all of your time and effort into people who a) have smartphones and b) give a poo poo about apps which showcase the hottest local microbrews when so many people in your immediate vicinity are having a hell of a time buying food and paying the rent.

boner confessor fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Mar 22, 2014

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I can't be too mad at people for wanting to believe in the Singularity. Existential dread sucks and I bet it hits smart people really hard, it's like heaven for nerds.

Nah you can be mad pretty easily about it since its the most retarded version of gently caress you got mine

Testikles
Feb 22, 2009
Anybody who designs to build heaven on earth is a fool at best and a murderer at worst.

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

Popular Thug Drink posted:

It's really easy to believe that your beliefs are fantastic and wonderful and liberating while completely ignoring how you're subjecting others to hardships and misery.

Like, "Oh hooray for me I made a great app that connects people and is a disruptive force to the status quo" when you're thinking of entities that exist only in the context of internet capitalism. You're investing all of your time and effort into people who a) have smartphones and b) give a poo poo about apps which showcase the hottest local microbrews when so many people in your immediate vicinity are having a hell of a time buying food and paying the rent.

It is probably the case that this is true for most. Nevertheless, invoking something as specific as the dark enlightenment as a way of describing a similarity to your own views does not bode well for your ideological framework in terms of not resembling fascism. I guess she could be the Strasser of the dark enlightenment?

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
The 21st century definition of a technocrat is pretty much someone (not necessarily directly elected) who will conduct relatively unpopular economic reforms that are considered objectively "unassailable."

I think it is an expansion of the idea that experts, not necessarily technical/scientific experts, should run a government.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The definition of expert is increasingly suspect.

It's really disappointing to see this Jerry Rubin poo poo. But anti-gentrification people started loving with the Google buses so it's prompted this ancap reaction. At least the Californian Ideology is now openly embracing commercial authoritarianism, rather than the dead dream of Cosmopolitan Internationalism.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

OwlBot 2000 posted:

I wonder if she knows what "Dark Enlightenment" is? It's cryptofascism.
Whoa /pol/ invaded that comments section something fierce

Watermelon City
May 10, 2009

more friedman units posted:

She's blatantly trolling, some of the stuff she says is too over the top to be anything else. You'd think Google would tell her to shut up already and stop making them look bad.
So, what, people are going to stop using Google because of some weirdo with dumb views? Google might be more concerned if they had to actually suffer consequences for employing mouthy idiots.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I can't be too mad at people for wanting to believe in the Singularity. Existential dread sucks and I bet it hits smart people really hard, it's like heaven for nerds.

You're right, it's far better to laugh at people like that then get mad.

more friedman units
Jul 7, 2010

The next six months will be critical.

Watermelon City posted:

So, what, people are going to stop using Google because of some weirdo with dumb views? Google might be more concerned if they had to actually suffer consequences for employing mouthy idiots.

Does it help their public image to have an employee demanding their former CEO be appointed ruler of the U.S.?

more friedman units fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Mar 22, 2014

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Watermelon City posted:

So, what, people are going to stop using Google because of some weirdo with dumb views? Google might be more concerned if they had to actually suffer consequences for employing mouthy idiots.

Given that google hired ray kurtzweil, they probably actively want some fraction of moronic technofetishists.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

Cardboard Box A posted:

Whoa /pol/ invaded that comments section something fierce

It's hilarious to me that these self-styled intellectuals can't wrap their heads around the idea that just because a political party has socialist in its name doesn't make it actually leftist. :ironicat:

I wonder if they think the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea is a bastion of freedom and democracy?

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011
Well on her twitter she appears to be backing off on the crypto-fascist stuff and is now doing a puppet master routine.

Edit: And then she goes back to being serious. She appears to be using irony as some kind of deflection for her terrible opinions when pressed.

AstheWorldWorlds fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Mar 22, 2014

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
Link the tweets.

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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Could engineers really get it more wrong than bankers though? I'm honestly not sure how.

gently caress libertarians, but I stand by my question.

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