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Cache Cab posted:The issue for me is the level of toxic substances they put in the vaccines. I only shop at organic co-ops, store everything in glass bottles instead of plastic, and don't allow any unnatural cleaning products into my house, so why would I pump my kids full of inorganic substances? Aluminum, formaldehyde, human serum albumin, gelatin, antibiotics and yeast proteins. There is more aluminum in one day's worth of baby formula, more formaldehyde occurring naturally in the child's body, and allergic reactions to gelatin and antibiotics are incredibly uncommon and not remotely as dangerous as failing to vaccinate your child. quote:The main problem is that these chemicals don't have a long track record. Demonstrably wrong. quote:I understand that some kids might get sick and maybe even die due to a lack of herd immunity, but how many are having mental issues from unregulated substances we're injecting into them? Because no one has ever inquired into the effects of trace aluminum on pediatric neurological development. quote:There are lots of mysterious deaths in childhood that have no answer, and vaccines can't be ruled out. No. Just…no. quote:I want my kids to be safe, but right now neither option is going to achieve that. You are operating under faulty assumptions, and using bad information to reach medically-dangerous conclusions. You are the problem, educate yourself instead of talking about things that are "toxic" and "inorganic". Paracelsus knew five hundred years ago that all substances are poison at a certain dose, do you think we understand so little about what we use to protect children in the 21st century?
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rkajdi posted:Saw this yesterday. Makes me sort of sad, in that it's getting obvious that autism isn't going to be generally curable. Maybe we can get a prenatal test for it eventually like we have with Downs Syndrome, but with the way things are going in this country I doubt that would solve the problem. Given that the prenatal Downs tests (nuchal translucency, genetic markers, etc.) are measuring obvious physical differences, it's going to be very hard to find similar screening procedures for autism if the only physical evidence is inside the developing cortex. The only hope is that there is also some kind of genetic link that at least allows a degree of risk assessment.
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Yiggy posted:...Baron Cohen has theorized that it is a hay wiring of the process of developmental masculinization of the brain. The idea is not without controversy as it strongly implicates the existence of neuro cognitive sexual dimorphism, which is anathema in many circles, particularly among social constructivists. Am I to understand that neurological dimorphism is not well-established? I was under the impression that we had a variety of known dimorphic properties in the brain. Or do you mean that these properties are not generally viewed as valid behavioral factors by socio/psych researchers?
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Mar 27, 2014 23:22
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I expect Yiggy means that Rakic refused to believe in it until well past the discovery of solid evidence for it. Just as many other neuro folks did; neurogenesis was one of those things that Everyone Knows Is Silly, until all of a sudden it was staring us in the face.
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greatn posted:Actually the newest tests take blood from the mother which contains enough fetal blood cells that have snuck in they can test that blood. You can do it exceedingly early, and this new technology will apply to a lot of different blood tests. My wife got the test in her first trimester. Oh right, I forgot about that one. My wife just gave birth last August but we chose to bet on the nuchal+genetic probabilities, which showed us really long odds against Downs, rather than shell out for the fetal-blood test (which obviously isn't covered by insurance). I know a guy who had the fetal-blood test done on his wife as a paternity check, after it came to light that she'd been loving around during the conception window. Only a couple thousand bucks, too.
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tbp posted:Shrewd business acumen The only man in history to run a casino corporation into bankruptcy.
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Idiot Dr. Kenet Lansman posted:We live in a very healthy community...The incidence of these illnesses are very low, not only here, but nationwide. Yes, the incidence of vaccine-preventable illnesses is very low nationwide. If only we could figure out the reason why vaccine-preventable illnesses are very uncommon. There must be some way to...research...the cause of vaccine-preventable illnesses being so rare. When I close my eyes I can envision a paradise, with plentiful data on immunization rates and the incidence of vaccine-preventable illnesses. Alas, we may never know the true cause of the rarity of vaccine-preventable illnesses. What a shame.
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It probably is among chiropractors, who likely think if their kid gets spinal meningitis that a few neck adjustments would put it right again. Edit: vvvv I'm pretty sure that the American anti-vaxers couldn't care less what a bunch of Swiss doctors think. Heck, they don't even speak English over there, I bet you can just order a medical degree through the mail. vvvv mdemone fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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Apr 1, 2014 16:24
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That rear end in a top hat's name cannot actually be Nimrod Weiner. I refuse to believe it. "Nimrod Weiner declined to comment" is the greatest sentence in the history of journalism and by all rights it should immediately become this thread's subtitle.
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It's doubly lovely because cannabis has multiple legitimate medical uses (anti-cachexia, anti-emetic among several others), and that gets lumped in with the goofy "my child smoked pot and now he's not autistic anymore" trash.
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Who What Now posted:Then we counter it with real information and a much stronger social safety net and medical care. Not by worrying about whether or not to allow abortions. Excuse me sir but Sweden is that way ----> We don't truck with social justice in this country, I'll have you know.
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Jun 28, 2014 19:19
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I am given to understand that there is in fact mercury in those vaccines, but that it is like 1% as much Hg as there is in a can of tuna. Paracelsus all up in this bitch.
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Jun 29, 2014 21:37
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Even if we did eradicate all the stocks, isn't the fact that we have it completely sequenced enough to support this nebulous future research? I dunno how virology works or if you need the actual body of the live virus itself.
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Jul 9, 2014 14:56
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Sixteen glass vials, sealed with melted glass, wrapped in cotton and placed in a cardboard box in a storage room kept at 40 degrees Fahrenheit. I wonder what the poor bastard who found them went through emotionally when he realized the labels said "variola".
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Jul 10, 2014 18:11
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Cercadelmar posted:You're arguing against keeping vials in a mostly transparent secure environment. Like a cardboard box in an unlocked storage room kept at above-freezing temperatures? Disclaimer: I'm not knowledgeable enough to come down on either side here, though I tend toward destroying the stocks despite an understanding that it will never happen due to any number of political and bureaucratic reasons.
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Jul 12, 2014 20:29
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QuarkJets posted:In a discussion about whether we should destroy all of the remaining smallpox samples, we obviously can't destroy the samples that we don't know about. I take your first point. I only brought it up as a indicator that somebody in 2060 is going to find some stuff we didn't destroy today, so we should use that as a thought exercise. As to your second point: I was given to understand that we do not have a cure for smallpox, merely antivirals with some non-trivial failure rate. And if you have not been vaccinated (which I have not, nor has my infant son), then you're still looking at a mortality rate not to be sneezed at. If I'm wrong about any of that, I'm glad to concede. Mostly I think I support destruction because humans have a pretty solid track record of loving the football, and if it is indeed true that other poxviruses provide equal scientific benefit for research routes, the benefit to keeping variola around seems awfully minuscule to me. But as I said, I'm not rabid about it. More of a mild tendency.
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I suppose a better way to say it is that I'm in favor of having destroyed those samples back then. If regulations and safety protocols are virtually foolproof now, then so be it.
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Jul 12, 2014 21:10
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tehllama posted:For what it's worth she appears to be a nutritionist with an Ed D, not an MD or a PhD. I think the fact that it passed the editors of a journal is somewhat more damning. The yawning gap between theory and implementation of peer review once again rears its ugly head. Wow that was a quality mixed metaphor I just pumped out.
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Nov 14, 2014 17:40
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ActusRhesus posted:Look, after the whole cry it out debate I think we've already established I'm the world's worst parent. Today thanks to the Snowpocalypse I let her help me play mass effect. Tyke's got a knack for.headshots. My 18-month-old son managed to unlock a challenge in Smash Bros. by landing a 30-hit combo in Training mode. I was out of the room for a few seconds, and I can't begin to imagine how he did that.
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Jan 28, 2015 19:45
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I think the most useful definition of Millennial is "world wide web existed during formative years", in which case I'm just about the bleeding early edge of the generation, having been born in 1982 and therefore nearing the end of grade school when the WWW exploded everywhere. But you ask these kids what is Telnet and they look at you like you just asked them for a weasel lightly toasted on ciabatta.
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Feb 2, 2015 16:42
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Elderbean posted:I really hope vaccination doesn't become a talking point in the election, I have zero-faith that the media will handle that correctly. I have bad news for you.
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What in the hell is the etymology of this "crunchy" word you people keep using? 
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