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Phone: Jul 30, 2005; 親子丼をほしい。

Rand alPaul posted:

I think there were jobs in the 1994. I might be for this. Rap was still good, too.

Umm... MF Doom and Killer Mike weren't on the scene. Dumile's brother was killed the year before, but Operation: Doomsday was still 5 years out.

You might want to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 11:51

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yaleforks posted:

Greensboro Montessori students quiz GOP candidates at forum.

http://www.news-record.com/news/article_6dcd6144-babb-11e3-9826-0017a43b2370.html

Outside of the News Record having an awful website, this article sums up NC pretty loving well.

"Mr. Candidate, we just had a devastating coal ash spill that is basically turning water sources into toxic wastelands. What do you think we should do? "

Accidents happen. Pull back the reins of the EPA who would fine Duke Energy.

:aaaaa:

# ¿ Apr 3, 2014 15:21

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Oh, I forgot one thing that tickles me a bit: Middle schoolers, who are abhorrent human beings, ask GOP candidates, who are abhorrent human beings, about real issues. The middle schoolers have an excuse such as hormones and still developing, but they come off looking so much better and thoughtful than the GOP candidates.

I guess this means that education is going to get another cut because the previous cuts still haven't killed critical thinking.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2014 15:30

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Spiffster posted:

Wow Houseboats! If you don't like your neighbors, you can pull up the anchor and sail some place else!

...Oh wait wrong thread.

How strong is the Tea Party in North Carolina? Is there any chance of them shifting the politics so far to the right that independents start shifting Democrat?

There is some tea party presence, but there's no real tea party candidates. A lot of the politicians are old school/good ol' boys, and they're doing everything by the GOP narrative book. The voting districts were redrawn and everything is hosed, emphasis on everything.

The majority of the people aren't happy, but telling them to go out and vote about it is becoming increasingly difficult between the voter id bullshit, cutbacks on popular early voting programs, and general gerrymandering.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2014 18:14

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AlternateNu posted:

There's a town in Mississippi called "Guntown" holding a Tea Party Gun Show? Christ, this reads like the setting of a bad email forward.

And that politician's name was Albert Einstein...

# ¿ Apr 3, 2014 21:41

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Zombie Samurai posted:

Anyone who thinks accelerationism is a good idea should keep an eye on North Carolina.

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# ¿ Apr 4, 2014 19:20

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Chris Christie posted:

This, although I certainly think some of the sensationalized (and isolated) incidences of EPA going overboard screwing with individual land owners are b.s. But it is legitimate for EPA to protect everyone's interests and the environment and that sometimes means corporate/industrial or even individual land owners can't do anything they please on their own property.

Care to cite any examples of the EPA going overboard?

# ¿ Apr 5, 2014 00:08

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comes along bort posted:

I think you mean permanent idiot king.

In somewhat subtle trolling news:

This is a fart's distance away from my place. I could go there and check it out, but last time I went there it was asses to elbows and had a 2 hour wait or some poo poo, so...

# ¿ Apr 9, 2014 18:17

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Alter Ego posted:

I suppose if you squint, "character" and "asparagus" sort of look the same. Kinda.

Louie Gohmert's still a moron though.

Let's split the difference: Aspergsions.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2014 18:25

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I'm an advocate for open carry knives.

*he unsheathed his Hanzo steel*

E:

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# ¿ Apr 9, 2014 18:28

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dinoputz posted:

Just for yuks, I googled the guy's name to see what else he's been up to, and I just now found out he's been known to write for WorldNetDaily. I know I shouldn't be surprised or anything, but now I'm wondering whether his book cover shows up in this forum so often because of the ridiculousness of the subject matter, of if it's considered topical to GOP rebuilding because of his bizarre politics.

Somebody posted it yospos forever ago, but there's some feral youths and around blacks never relax poo poo in his books. Dude is definitely a racist, nerd shitlord.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 18:09

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Someone equated Bush's paintings with Zimmerman's, and the concept is the same but the execution is way different.

Bush's paintings are imperfect and look like a painting done by an amateur.

Zimmerman's paintings look like a Photoshop filter on a jpg with some hacky bullshit scrawled on it and carefully screenprinted onto a canvas.

Both of them are lazy as gently caress, but Bush's paintings actually show effort. Also, Bush didn't gun down an unarmed teenager in Florida.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 18:28

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Finnin posted:

Why?

Because she can retire in dignity knowing that she accomplished A Thing, versus all of the Republicans who have been yelling and vilifying her for the past 5 years.

# ¿ Apr 11, 2014 00:29

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zoux posted:

I'm sorry the who years?

Egg?

# ¿ Apr 11, 2014 16:48

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zoux posted:

Well perhaps I should've said "justified by".

Between Ryan's" budget" and the European excel issue, I'm convinced that an intern build a magic_hat() plug in or that they're guessing that rand() means that you pass a parameter and Ayn Rand passes judgement from beyond the grave.

# ¿ Apr 11, 2014 17:28

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comes along bort posted:

Nah it closed because LF went from calling out lovely people in the real world to calling out lovely people on the forums (worst d&d poster), including mods and admin, the idea being that nobody was off-limits, which obviously didn't sit well with mods/admin. The final straw was making fun of former mod Grover's stupid house using his own posts. Grover had a huge meltdown and that was used as pretext to permaban a bunch of posters and close the subforum. The let's kill the president thing was in FYAD.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2014 19:21

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And that rancher's name was Albert Einstein.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 16:30

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ufarn posted:

It's what happens, when you're born in a place called Hope.

Sounds foreign, where's the birth certificate Obama!?

# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 18:47

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Oh man, to page of Gawker is assertion that the racist shitlord who murdered 3 people in Kansas "really likes Ron Paul".

:allears:

E: ahaha he told this to David Pakman in 2010, god drat

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# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 20:16

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zoux posted:

Goon project eh?

Goon Project: Let's elect the (next) President :buddy:

# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 21:41

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comes along bort posted:

Lewis Black gave a talk at the National Press Club today, dispelling the idea that he'd lost his edge in his old age. Things we learn: he's a socialist, he used to work for the Appalachian Regional Commission, and reliance on entrepreneurship to fix social ills is a crock of poo poo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXANL8m6cfg&t=325s

I like the Chapel Hill slam starting at about 28:20.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2014 03:55

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Joementum posted:

The best part, in my opinion, is that he's whining about the Federal government's Central Planning program of collecting property taxes.

If you don't pay your property taxes, how will you be able to stand your ground? :ohdear:

# ¿ Apr 16, 2014 19:31

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So in motherfuckers who complain about taxes news, the Koch Brothers are literal cartoon villains. They basically back legislation to ban municipalities from running buses.

Yeah.

quote:

I don't have to tell you who the Koch brothers are. They're the Lannisters of America, using their money and influence to control the country from behind the scenes.

But at least we're allowed to understand the Lannister motives. The Koch brothers are basically messing with laws for the same reason George Mallory messes with mountains: because they're there.

In Tennessee, the Kochs have ruined a public work with an awful law, just because they could.

So Tennessee wanted a bus. A whole system of buses. A $174 million Bus Rapid Transit system to bring people to Nashville. Driving to Dollywood isn't good for the environment.

Whatever. The Koch brothers opposed the bus system because... well it's somewhat unclear why they opposed it. There was some talk that the buses weren't "safe," for bus passengers since the system involved mid-street drop offs. But the hypocrisy of people opposing buses out of safety concerns for the people who want to take the buses is a little beyond me.

There's a "takings" issue. Takings refer to the power of the government to take your private property for important government purposes. They don't "take" it, obviously. They pay you for it, usually a pretty good price. But you can see how Republicans get all "This Is Sparta" over this simple act of government power.

Still, the amount of property the government would have to buy for some bus stops is minimal. It's not enough to justify a multimillion dollar lobbying campaign against mass transit.

Searching around for an answer, I came across this excellent piece by Alex Pareene on Salon. It looks like the Koch brothers messed with Tennessee because Tennessee is a good place for them to express their power:

quote:
�With supermajorities in both houses,� [Andrew Ogles,of Americans for Prosperity] said, �Tennessee is a great state to pass model legislation that can be leveraged in other states.�

So, this is not �the Kochs� doing this, in the cartoonish sense of David or Charles calling up a henchman and saying �kill that new bus line in Nashville,� and then cackling and dipping an orphan in fracking runoff and using it to light a cigar. But this is the story of how billionaires dedicated to advancing an agenda at every level of government can do so with practically no one noticing until they�ve already won.

So the Koch brothers killed something just to watch it die.

That's politics, I guess, but here is the horrible law Tennessee now has as a result:

quote:
This amendment prohibits metropolitan governments and any transit authorities created by a metropolitan government from constructing, maintaining or operating any bus rapid transit system using a separate lane, or other separate right-of-way, dedicated solely to the use of such bus rapid transit system on any state highway or state highway right-of-way unless the project to do so is approved by the legislative body of the metropolitan government and by the commissioner of transportation. This amendment also prohibits such entities from loading or discharging passengers at any point within the boundary lines of a state highway or state highway right-of-way not adjacent to the right-hand, lateral curb line, or in the absence of curb lines, the right-hand, lateral boundary line or edge of the roadway.

For those playing along at home, that means that Tennessee Department of Transportation no longer has the authority to make bus lanes on the highway, and the placement of its bus stops is now being dictated to them by the Koch brothers. That's the law, now. This is like the Port Authority only being able to open the George Washington Bridge if Chris Christie says so.

Later, when the good people of Tennessee bitch about how "the government" can't get anything done, remember that the Koch brothers are writing the laws under which the government is allowed to operate.

http://www.atlredline.com/the-koch-brothers-are-just-swinging-their-dicks-around-1563913478

Of course the top rated comment is whining about how the Koch Bros aren't getting a fair shake. :qq:

# ¿ Apr 16, 2014 23:50

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zoux posted:

When I'm bitching about white people I use it in the sense the founders intended: rich white men.

Greg Proops has a great line about how democracy is great, specifically the original Greek version: women can't vote and you can own slaves.

And then you remember it's been barely 100 years since women's suffrage and 150 since the ~~Civil War~~ War of Northern Aggression.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2014 15:45

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ratbert90 posted:

How can Republicans with a straight face keep trying to shill the myth that raising the minimum wage will make people lose jobs? When in reality every single loving time the minimum wage has been raised, that hasn't been true at all and in fact almost every single loving time the minimum wage has been raised, it's been GOOD for the loving economy?

Not much truly pisses me off when it comes to Republican rhetoric anymore, but this bold face lovely lie is one of the few that truly make me red in the face.

Paul Ryan is their Numbers Guy.

e: just to clarify, I'm talking about Paul Ryan, noted TAKER of government money as a child, who has only worked on the tax payer dime as a government official, who's favorite band is Rage Against the Machine, and his only claim to fame is being a numbers guy who refuses to talk numbers and complains that federal programs are rife with abuse and encourage laziness.

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# ¿ Apr 20, 2014 03:37

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Looks like both the UAW and VW are throwing in the rag in TN. I really can't blame them considering that the Koch Bros basically own the state and can throw money to make laws since it's a GOP stronghold.

quote:

(Reuters) - The United Auto Workers union on Monday said it was withdrawing its objection claiming undue outside political interference in the result of a February election it lost among workers at the Volkswagen AG plant in Tennessee.

UAW President Bob King, in a statement issued by the union on Monday, said the process of objecting to the National Labor Relations Board could have dragged on for months if not years.

King and the UAW announced the withdrawal on the morning of the scheduled start of an NLRB hearing in Chattanooga on the union's objection.

The UAW has had no success in trying to get workers at automotive plants owned by foreign companies in the U.S. South to agree to join the union in an area where membership has fallen over the last several decades. Volkswagen officials agreed not to work against the UAW and allowed the union direct access to workers at the plant during work hours, a rarity by companies in a UAW organizing drive, which he union hoped would increase its chances of victory.

But in a Feb 12-14 election, workers voted 712-to-626 against allowing the UAW to represent them.

"The unprecedented political interference by Gov. (Bill) Haslam, Sen. (Bob) Corker and others was a distraction for Volkswagen employees and a detour from achieving Tennessee's economic priorities," King said. "The UAW is ready to put February's tainted election in the rearview mirror and instead focus on advocating for new jobs and economic investment in Chattanooga."

During the election campaign, Republican Gov. Haslam and other Tennessee politicians threatened to cut off financial incentives to Volkswagen if the UAW were installed as labor representative of the workers. Corker, a U.S. senator and former mayor of Chattanooga, claimed during the vote that VW would not place additional work at the plant if the UAW won the election.

King said he would next try to take his case against what he called outside interference by politicians to Congress.

"The UAW will ask Congress to examine the use of federal funds in the state's incentives threat, in order to protect Tennessee jobs and workers in the future," the union statement said.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA3K0GG20140421?irpc=932

# ¿ Apr 21, 2014 14:22

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Lote posted:

What are VW's plans moving forward? I know they wanted a union presence for streamlining of negotiations of labor and I remember one article speculating that not having a union would be a hindrance to expansion at the Tennessee plant.

AFAIK VW is going to keep the plant in Chattanooga, but stop investing in it actively. I wouldn't be surprised if they're currently shopping around for a place to drop a new plant in hopes that they could get an organized labor presence so that negotiations aren't a pain in the rear end. I think that SC might be on their radar since BMW and Hyundai already have manufacturing stood up there, but the entire southeast region is completely controlled by GOP Uberalles so who knows.

I'd be tickled if they wound up going to Detroit and wind up revitalizing the area.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2014 15:28

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Oh, veterans have influence in politics I'm this country.

Please visit my website https://www.supportaretroops.com and buy a bumper sticker for the low price of $3 plus shipping to show how much you support are troops.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2014 18:38

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Ammat The Ankh posted:

RM are chosen by a vetting committee set up by the candidate after securing the nomination

Or if you're the GOP, a hat or a dart board.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2014 21:48

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joeburz posted:

Isn't Duckworth on her first term still?

So are all of the Tea Party clowns like Cruz, soooooooooooo...

# ¿ Apr 22, 2014 01:29

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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:

Franken/Stein 2016.

Paul/Ryan 2016.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2014 15:01

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Dystram posted:

https://twitter.com/Riteofattila/status/458635500358991873

The nice thing about THE JEWS is that it only takes up 8 characters whereas UN AGENDA 21 uses 13 characters.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2014 17:24

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Ofaloaf posted:

So I've filed to run for local township supervisor, the filing deadline is today, and the township office closes in less than one hour. Thus far, I'm the only one, either Dem or Republican, who's filed for this. What are the chances that another person will rush in and file within an hour of the deadline?

Do you even know how intensely I'm smashing F5 to see if the county clerk's updated and listed any other candidates? The difference between running unopposed and having to run an uphill campaign is huge. Goddamn, this is tense.

Is your favorite band Rage Against the Machine?

Have fun being a fat cat township supervisor.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2014 20:48

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beatlegs posted:

Any thoughts on why the KKK seems to feel so comfortable coming out of the shadows recently?

Being seen as progressive and relativity of awfulness is a hell of a thing.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2014 02:41

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Justus posted:

So...it's basically a flat tax for everyone except minimum wage seasonal/part time workers?

...except it's not even a flat RATE tax, but in fact a flat AMOUNT tax? Holy poo poo....

Yeah, seasonal and part timers would be affected by it more.

Poor people really need to have more skin in the game, especially considering all of the Cadillacs they have.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2014 19:55

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Nessus posted:

Would you say that they are lucky duckies?

What do you call people who jive? Jivers?

# ¿ Apr 23, 2014 20:11

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Yeah, the Dana Loesch thing was posted immediately.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2014 18:31

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Speaking of weirdos, that Xlyo kid is such a power tripping dick, going around like he's the judge, jury, and executioner.

Oh hey, what's up?

In "on topic" news: Fried Chicken said he was going to use my thing from earlier in the month for next month's thread: Everything is hosed, Emphasis on Everything.

# ¿ Apr 28, 2014 19:52

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Relentlessboredomm posted:

Is there any good indication that Jeb Bush will be running next time? He honestly seems to me to be the most likely R candidate who could win the general election. I can't tell if all the chatter about him is overt pining by the establishment or his people drumming him up.

All signs are pointing towards Jeb because he doesn't reek of failure and has the least probable chance of either saying something wildly inappropriate or has multiple skeletons in his closet.

His governorship over Florida wasn't exactly sunshine and rainbows, but he looks like a leftie, commie, pinko compared to Rick "What's a Conflict of Interest" Scott.

# ¿ Apr 28, 2014 20:40

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 11:51

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Alright, I'm about to knock all of you on your asses, so please hold on to something structurally sound or take a seat:

How did Texas get Toyota to move their operations there?

40 million dollars.

It's OK, though. The lack of corporate state tax and personal income tax will balance the budget, though. I've double checked it using Paul Ryan's excel spreadsheet.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2014 15:06

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