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Asimo posted:It's spaceships. You can't just (easily) have W be "go forward" because there's three dimensional movement involved... not just changing your Z positioning, but also the angle at which your pointing to aim your weapons. The turning is definitely an issue at low levels (as you get more skills/gear it's drastically improved... unless you're flying a carrier or something), but it's part of the metagame of shield facings and firing arcs and such too. Which also explains why your weapons may not have been firing; torpedoes (for example) have a 90-degree firing arc, so if you have one mounted in a forward arc and an enemy's behind you or to your side you won't be able to fire it on them. I know I'm sounding like an annoyed sperg who is basically saying "But WoW does it!!!111one", but I can hop on a flying mount in WoW, move, turn any direction I want instantly, and stop on a dime, and I never had anything approaching the issues I'm having. I didn't even get out of what I think was the tutorial (I was trying to find some cloaked Klingon ship when my spergstration got too high), but like I said, I got frustrated quickly. I suppose I'll try it again in a bit, but really I was just looking for something to sate my need for entertainment and I was in a bit of a ST kick, and my issues turned me off.
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MisterBibs posted:I know I'm sounding like an annoyed sperg who is basically saying "But WoW does it!!!111one", but I can hop on a flying mount in WoW, move, turn any direction I want instantly, and stop on a dime, and I never had anything approaching the issues I'm having. I didn't even get out of what I think was the tutorial (I was trying to find some cloaked Klingon ship when my spergstration got too high), but like I said, I got frustrated quickly. If you want to point the front of the ship directly at what your looking at, hold down both mouse buttons. In space one mouse button clicked moves the camera, two mouse buttons controls direction and camera. Da Mott Man fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 04:01
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FWIW I don't think it's too spergy of you, I often am annoyed that I can't effectively lock flight camera to a forced perspective.
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MisterBibs posted:I know I'm sounding like an annoyed sperg who is basically saying "But WoW does it!!!111one", but I can hop on a flying mount in WoW, move, turn any direction I want instantly, and stop on a dime, and I never had anything approaching the issues I'm having. I didn't even get out of what I think was the tutorial (I was trying to find some cloaked Klingon ship when my spergstration got too high), but like I said, I got frustrated quickly. I mean it's not exactly dogfighting here (if anything it's more like battleships broadsiding) but there's some similar elements to it. Also, 300 Earth Dollars posted:FWIW I don't think it's too spergy of you, I often am annoyed that I can't effectively lock flight camera to a forced perspective.
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Apr 28, 2014 04:05
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Asimo posted:I think you can actually set the camera to a chasecam view, though I usually prefer the default. Huh. I just looked earlier today. Gonna go take another stroll through 400 options pages welp there it is: Controls > Camera type Thanks, I find it almost impossible to pilot an escort while also managing camera angle Rotation Confusion fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 04:08
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Asimo posted:I mean it's not exactly dogfighting here (if anything it's more like battleships broadsiding) but there's some similar elements to it. Also, If you are used to WoW's snap movement this will feel like snails on rubber cement.
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bubbles depo posted:Speaking of that literal topic, we had a run in with honest to god pedophilia in STO late this evening. If you see Legate Lashon@ntrusov, kindly remind him of the rules of the game, his home country and of general loving decency. Chat log. CHAT LOG. My GOD, man!
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300 Earth Dollars posted:Huh. I just looked earlier today. Gonna go take another stroll through 400 options pages While I agree, it can be much harder on an escort with the restrictive firing arc, it's often critical to get used to looking in a different direction than you're heading/shooting. Situational awareness can be the difference between living and dying. You can tell where your target is spatially by your weapons fire. Personally I love how easy it is to control the ship with one hand while looking with another. I got used to controls like that in UT2K4 and I wish all games let you do that. I finally built a cheapscort and holy poo poo, I love it. Sure, I love cruisers, but a decently kitted 'scort is a thing of beauty. Looking forward to a fleet ship.
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Apr 28, 2014 04:26
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I'm kinda splitting the difference by beamscorting, but I get what you mean.
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Apr 28, 2014 04:47
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300 Earth Dollars posted:I'm kinda splitting the difference by beamscorting, but I get what you mean. Chasecam beamscort? 
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Apr 28, 2014 04:49
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What should I do with this Undine Lock Boxes? Sell them, or buy keys off the exchange.
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http://imgur.com/0h6eYFm Continuing with @marquinsor thing. First was Kosmicka Ljubav is worthless, then this. Such hate for me. Kosmicka Ljubav fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 05:31
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Gorelab posted:What should I do with this Undine Lock Boxes? Sell them, or buy keys off the exchange. I say sell 'em, they're going to be around for a while but right now they're still kind of new so their sale price on the exchange is a lot higher than what they will be soon. At the same time because people want to open the shiny new boxes keys are more expensive due to the increased demand. Even a stack of 20 boxes won't go for much but it will pay the EC for a few rep projects at least, if there's anything you want out of lockboxes you can probably get it off the exchange for less than the cost of a key with the exception of the ships.
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Apr 28, 2014 06:06
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Fun thread for you guys to read: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=16641691&posted=1#post16641691 It's pubbies complaining about exploding too much.
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Apr 28, 2014 07:14
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I kind of wish the forum included people's @handles so you could check and see exactly what ship-borne abortions they're flying. 
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http://pastebin.com/K3KT7M22 Decided to put together a small comedy compilation of random pubbie talk from today. The first part is 2 former "friends" of Marquisnor explaining their history with him. The later parts are just some sillyness from NoP chat, including an internet-badass swordmaster. Goat Pillager fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 08:47
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Biotech patch boosts the healing from the borg set. This trait is so great-- I'm not running any hull healing skills at all and I have no problem staying at decent amounts of HP.
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Apr 28, 2014 12:25
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Hmmmm....I wonder: https://my.secondlife.com/marquisnoirquote:Interests
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DonDoodles posted:Hmmmm....I wonder: https://my.secondlife.com/marquisnoir http://pastebin.com/Xe7mLhuj Here's an old pastebin from early 2013, might be the first encounter with him?
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Apr 28, 2014 12:52
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Ludicro posted:http://pastebin.com/Xe7mLhuj Ahahaha I'd forgotten marquisnoir was the one complaining about Ipkris using extra ships to cheat when he was a sci with a carrier. This guy has been gold since day one.
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Asimo posted:I kind of wish the forum included people's @handles so you could check and see exactly what ship-borne abortions they're flying. He's sort of right though, breach elite has a lot more kick than it used to. And I do mean a lot, eating one torpedo crit from the turrets will do 50-70k damage.
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Ludicro posted:http://pastebin.com/Xe7mLhuj That's hilarious, and yeah, I think that might be around when he first popped on the scene. I seem to remember him hanging around Droz demanding we leave "his station" several times before having his dead son meltdown. That's probably it right there.
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Mondian posted:Chasecam beamscort? Chasecam still lets you move the camera all you want. It just means that if you stop managing it, instead of it orbiting you arbitrarily it defaults back to chasecam. Changes camera management from "you have to do this" to "you can do this when you want."
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Lagomorphic posted:Fun thread for you guys to read: I kinda think ISE, if you draw 100% of the aggro, is a little harder now. I also switched from an A2B cruiser to a Drake escort so it could be just that. People complaining about the Undine elites being hard though just blows my mind. Rotation Confusion fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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300 Earth Dollars posted:Chasecam still lets you move the camera all you want. It just means that if you stop managing it, instead of it orbiting you arbitrarily it defaults back to chasecam. Changes camera management from "you have to do this" to "you can do this when you want." You really want your camera to focus on your current target rather than being a chasecam.
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Ludicro posted:You really want your camera to focus on your current target rather than being a chasecam. That's an option too, I think.
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300 Earth Dollars posted:People complaining about the Undine elites being hard though just blows my mind. The only thing hard about the Undine elites (or at least Viscous Cycle) is getting things lined up for your DHCs. Jesus.
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Ludicro posted:You really want your camera to focus on your current target rather than being a chasecam. I think people are reading "chasecam" and assuming that's where you leave it while you fly around shooting things, which isn't it at all. The primary behavior change by turning on chasecam is that the camera doesn't start orbiting you if you don't manipulate it. It's not that you don't still do every bit of deliberate camera manipulation you're doing now. It's that if you stop double mouse button'ing to control the camera the camera always goes back to the same spot relative to you. The thing that was driving me crazy about escort flying was that if I wanted to both be manipulating speed, direction, while keypress and clicking, I'd sometimes lose control of the camera perspective in ways that were unhelpful. Now if it happens it's always going back to something that's at least "OK."
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wdarkk posted:The only thing hard about the Undine elites (or at least Viscous Cycle) is getting things lined up for your DHCs. Jesus. I switched from an escort to a cruiser just for that one reason alone. That and the generosity of an undisclosed Wesley. I'm really happy to be in Dental now, mainly because there are people who know what they're doing that have been helping me out where Cryptic has been lacking (proper ship fitting, mainly).
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By the way, does anyone else think the Undine Planet Killer looks a lot worse than all the other Undine ships? It looks a lot less organic (especially at the front) and simultaneously a lot more turd-like.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:33
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The thing's an organic version of the T-Mat Planet Killers from Homeworld 2.
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Pretty much a Vorlon cruiser from Babylon 5.
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He's right though, it does look like a turd. Wish it had those tendril things like in the feature ep. Or if it just happened to look exactly like this... 
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Posting for channel access Noise@NoiseComplaint Made a wiki account as noisecomplaint as well Looking to give all the new content a shot.
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Bloodly posted:The thing's an organic version of the T-Mat Planet Killers from Homeworld 2. You mean it wishes it was a T-Mat planet killer. It actually just looks like a giant space walnut to me.
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The tentacle thing from the featured episode was much, much cooler.
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Noise Complaint posted:Posting for channel access Noise@NoiseComplaint You're in.
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Asimo posted:I kind of wish the forum included people's @handles so you could check and see exactly what ship-borne abortions they're flying. He posts his build on page 4. Guess what, it's terrible!
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Back to game of :cryptic:  , I finally fixed my doff issue for now. That is to say, my 3x techs are staying put in the active space slot now. I still had to use the work around to slot them, but other methods on top of it were not working (at the time I was flying a jhdc). Having a desire for a vesta like ship for my romulan, I pulled out the dyson ship to roll around in. Not a bad ship mind you when fitted correctly. Anyway, having switched to it and set it up (equipment, boffs, skill tray, and doffs), I saved the loadout. The techs have since stayed where they belong instead of running to their mothers or whatever it was they were doing.
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