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the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

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Okay so I restarted playing this game again after about a two year break and joined some shithouse pubbie Fleet that cold-invited me. They have all the holdings upgrades and stuff but are totally nerdcore about letting people buy fleet crap and base it entirely around your contributions. I completely forgot that Starfleet Dental existed until this thread.

Send me an invite to the channel (Saril@parttimehanyou) please! I'd like to get in with goons again. Also, registered on the wiki with the name Melchior.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Apr 23, 2014

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the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

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Asimo posted:

Yeah, there's a "hilarious" catch-22 these days where most fleets do DKP-style sperging over provisions and have the only measure of worth as contribution points... but the starbases are finished and the provisions are done so there's no way for someone new to really get points.

I'm firmly convinced Cryptic will add some sort of additional fleet mark sink gimmick so people can farm up gear (if maybe not as lucratively as the starbase projects) if only so that upcoming additions won't have their jobs instafilled in large fleets with lots of members with backed up marks.

Short summary: Federations are bland losers, Klingons have an entire duty officer mission type devoted to space piracy.

More seriously, the only real difference is the queues (feds have an easier time with fleet queues due to sheet numbers queuing) and accessory sort of stuff. Klankroms have better uniform options, better (and very lucrative) duty officer jobs, better generic carrier fighters (though you'd generally want to use a frigate), and better fleet weapons (the elite disruptors are infinitely better than the fed phasers... but you'd want antiproton anyway). Klanks have to buy a c-store ship to get the Plasmonic Leech console, though it's an account unlock, while feds have to buy it off the exchange for a few million credits; both are big investments as new players, but the latter's more manageable.

I'd say go klingon myself since klankroms basically get all the benefits and almost none of the downsides, but it really comes down to whether you want Starfleet Dental or Nerds of Prey hovering under your name.

I get all that but i made their first tier of promotions to be able to buy stuff and then they didnt promote me anyway because they were waiting for a scheduled promotion ceremony and i was like 'hoo boy...'

Thanks for the invite all.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Regrettable posted:

I use basically this but I take the points from threat control & put them in weapon performance. I must be a pretty cool dude cause I didn't even know it was a preferred layout & did it without a guide.

Mine is pretty close to this in that I avoided any skill that 'enhanced abilities in sector space' or that involved batteries. People use batteries? I don't think I've ever done that.

Has anyone else done the Peanut Labs surveys to earn Zen? It seems like a pretty shithouse way to get it, but if you're on a budget and have an excess of time and don't mind answering the same questions a billion times it's not bad I guess. If anyone else has any better suggestions I'd be willing to hear them!

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Also another good question would be what's the best (least effort) to farm EC? I'm doing Qwark the Farmer in the foundry but it runs out of loot halfway through the mission.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Darksaber posted:

There's a daily cap on how much loot you can get from foundry missions. I can't remember which one I used to use, but if you start running out of loot then it's time to switch to another character or be done for the day.

I also saw 'tour the galaxy' as a potentially good source, but thats effort and a lot of clicking.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Melchior on the wiki.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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wdarkk posted:

The only thing hard about the Undine elites (or at least Viscous Cycle) is getting things lined up for your DHCs. Jesus.

I switched from an escort to a cruiser just for that one reason alone. That and the generosity of an undisclosed Wesley.

I'm really happy to be in Dental now, mainly because there are people who know what they're doing that have been helping me out where Cryptic has been lacking (proper ship fitting, mainly).

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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-Troika- posted:

I love cover shield :laugh:

It takes Bajoran Massacre Elite with Pubbies to an entirely new level.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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In regards to Dental Certification, is there a sponsorship policy? I have a RL friend I would like to get in if I could. He doesn't talk that much and he isn't a shitlord.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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GornAgain & Butts had to explain muling boffs to me yesterday. What an incredibly obtuse mechanic. You can't drag them into mail attachments (although there's nothing presenting an error if you try) but you can trade them to other people. Odd.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Morglon posted:

The high yield torps/rifts pack quite a punch, avoid all the gunk floating around and don't get sucked in, you'll probably be fine.

The rifts exploding does a huge amount of damage. If you get hit by those AND by the death star beams from the surrounding ships it's very easy to die. I kept thinking I was getting hit by gozer torps but apparently that's not the case. "Rift Collapse" is the thing that did a shitload of damage to me at least.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Consult your Wesley Overlords.

(will be galoring)

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

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I was wondering what that was about. I suppose it all ties back to my initial experience in a pubbie fleet when joining back up again in that they had ridiculous amounts of hoobyboo pseudo dkp bullshit to even look at the vendor let alone buy anything. Even if you met their contribution levels (50k fleet marks before you were promoted to 'can buy stuff) you had to wait for their 'promotion ceremony' to be able to have unfettered access to fleet holdings. If you asked for access prior to that, they would actually demote you after you were finished buying stuff.

I played wow in the heyday of 40-man raids and fairness and all that, and the above was even a bit much for me.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

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Gul Dukat Birthday Extravaganza @ DS9:

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Here's a better one:

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

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I loved how I was in game when they started this, then wandered off to cook dinner, give my kid a bath, read her stories, and watch the Tonight show, only to come back four hours later to werp still bitching.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Hakarne posted:

I used to think that goons exaggerated how bad pubbies were. I could usually complete pug STFs without much pain and only the occasional pants-on-head retarded group. Then they released undine assault. Holy poo poo are they terrible at it. Everyone either splits up along every lane and dies, or the smart ones group and focus on one lane. But even that takes about 10-15 minutes per lane with a "good" group.

Except with my scimitar. I can clear a lane solo fast enough to combo the rifts, then I have to go back and drag the pubbies through each lane since they'll inevitably still be flailing at the start when I'm finished. The best group I had was almost able to keep up with my clear speed when the 4 of them focused on one lane while I cleared another. Almost.

In summary: 1) The scimitar is ridiculously overpowered, 2) Pubbies are terrible and you should never do what they do, and 3) Follow the goon guides. I would suck if not for all the great information in these threads and on the wiki. Instead, I get to carry entire teams like a disruptor-throwing demigod thanks to the wealth of information passed down from our benevolent nerd overlords.

Would you mind pm'ing me your fit? I've got a fedrom alt with one that I'm less than impressed with and I'm 100% sure it is because I've fit it shittily and I'm comparing it to the Fleet Assault Cruiser and am being disappointed.

I'm glad the wiki is around otherwise I would barely have any sense of how things are supposed to work; the game levels you so fast and is so forgiving it's never quite necessary to learn how to fit anything for all 50 levels.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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They're a complete nonissue for any NPC except Borg, and even then only occasionally. I'd say polarize hull is up over 66% of the time, and Omega takes care of the times that aren't.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Is offers.perfectworld.com down for anyone else? Been making zen for weeks this way, and I get a message now that the site is inaccessible until I have a level 10 or week old character. Not sure why..

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Lagomorphic posted:

The command Bort is a a pretty great beam cruiser now that sensor analysis is good. It turns like rear end and has a shitload of inertia but it's damage output is pretty great. Worth picking up if you like space whales.

Put this on it too


Unguided posted:

What have you been using for a fake street address?

http://www.fakenamegenerator.com

I'm convinced that the major survey aggregators they use are on to me though, because I'm getting failed out of them left and right, right after going through the qualification questions.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

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Is that the Avenger, a vesta-class, or what?

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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I am still completely dumb but someone in dental set me up with the following as an engineer and it seems to work pretty well:

- Fuse Armor
- Chroniton Mines
- Temporal Bomb
- A nice shotgun
or whatever

doing all four of these in order to a group of anything melts a lot of it pretty quickly.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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MikeJF posted:

First thing is the Energy Cap Credit Increase. After that... probably the account bank, but for that I'd actually recommend subscribing for a month, which unlocks that and a bunch of other things permanently. After that, depends on what you're feeling you need. More characters? More boffs? More bank?

Also, if you have a KDF character, a Vandal destroyer so you can steal that sweet sweet plasmonic leech console.

The console from the Valdore zen store warbird is also invaluable if you have a chance to get it.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Console_-_Universal_-_Shield_Absorptive_Frequency_Generator

Morglon posted:

Should be everything you unlocked while leveling except the EC cap

I subbed for one month and just unsubbed today. I did purchase the EC cap removal prior to subbing, I'm assuming it should stay in place - is this correct? I've heard everything else remains as well after unsubbing.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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A fantastic thread!

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1112321

quote:

Sexy gladiator outfits, crotch tassel... Khan's female augment choice of costume... T'Pring's silver lame top...

I know I am gonna piss of a lot of Orions here, but quite frankly, they should allow female captains on fed side (and Rom side... and all KDF) to wear something like that. It's off duty, you see.

At least KDF actually got skirt for female....

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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I thought that by this point you guys would have told him the real way to apply, and how screenshots of blocking Infected: Manus or harassing Khitomer in Stasis would be encouraged.

Oh well.

FuturePastNow posted:

Kurt left after making up a weird conspiracy theory involving Enzo being bribed with worthless Mirror ships... to do... something. But he doesn't call us shitheads on other sites, so hey

lmao

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

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I really wonder if this type of person is even capable of stopping to reflect on what they're actually getting upset about. I'm thinking that the answer is no, probably not.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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I try my hardest not to experience third party ERP, but as I see it the whole reason these people are pissed is because they can't RP about lemonade giving them heartburn in Quarks for hours without something making their avatar dance (in a bar, no less)? And they're not willing to keep their ERP to ship bridges?

I guess it's more fun to equate it to rape, huh.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Especially hilarious considering that they can't find RP reasons to go to a private place, but they also can not find reasons to dance. In a bar. With a disco ball above their head.

I'm not even a roleplayer but wouldn't something along the lines of "Why don't we go someplace more private and continue our discussion?" serve that purpose? I mean I can see having bad rp sex on THE BRIDGE OF A STARSHIP to be a bit problematic, but maybe they're forgetting there are lower decks? gently caress in engineering, I mean REALLY.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Where do you think they all keep their orion slave girl outfits?

(nothing like rp sex right next to your bat'leth tournament trophy in the middle of the mess hall)

the Pixies fukken SUCKED fucked around with this message at 15:12 on May 29, 2014

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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A lot of these RPer's aren't captains of their own ships. They're merely slaves or residents who contract transportation services in exchange for uh, favors. Because doing this in an online cube-shooting game is totally a legitimate thing that is in no way weird at all and if you make fun of it you're going to be Godwin Law'd out of ESD.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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only the cats.

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Burning_Monk posted:

Thread closed. But not before:

That was literally my favorite post in the entire thread.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Also is it Bind on Account or Bind on Character? If it was BoA I'd buy it (I have a nice sum from the lobi event) but if it was BoC I probably wouldn't.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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Asimo posted:

Honestly, the ground gear tends to be a lot better buy than the space lobi gear. You can get costume unlocks from the armor, and the weapons are all pretty good and have unique gimmicks. And you can just toss them on a bridge officer if you have regrets.

The costume unlocks are only per character right? All the outfit boxes that have a description on the STO wiki seem to indicate its only an unlock for the character that opens it, which is kind of a bummer.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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If it isn't your money who cares? I would do the same thing long term as well.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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The faulty assumption here is that it's actually a programming bug causing amplifiers to do what they do. :colbert:

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
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New patch notes are out for today, which include some fun stuff including:

quote:

Resolved an issue with Loadouts which would occasionally cause bridge officer powers, captain powers, and slotted duty officers to be removed when transitioning to another map.

Thank GOD. Although it is laughable that I'm 6 8 pages into the patch notes thread and no one mentioned this one yet.

quote:

A new Featured Project has been made available to Fleets that have already completed their Tier 5 Starbases.

This project requires no other inputs than 2000 Fleet Marks.
It is specifically designed to supply large fleets with a steady stream of Fleet Credits in return for surplus Fleet Marks.
The Fleet Credits received from this project are *HALF* of what is received from all other projects.
This project completes in 5 minutes after all inputs are filled.

I'd still rather contribute to a vanity fleet but this is nice too!

The patch notes thread is a great example of some of the worst the STO community has to offer, and a shining demonstration of why it seems like the devs troll the playerbase with disco balls.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jun 5, 2014

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revtoiletduck posted:

Pretty sure the third reply mentions it. He seems upset.

Nah, he just starts the bitching about torpedoes that dominates the thread.

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Lagomorphic posted:

Oh yeah Vulture Wheel is good for fast dil KDF side. It's not a great mission but it's good for the daily spotlight bonus and you can run it in 2 minutes or less.

I wasn't even aware that dilithium was a reward for foundry missions. How does that work? Does this mission just award dil when you turn it in? Is there a limit for it daily or what? Reason I ask is I ran a mission once that was supposed to reward it and it didn't.

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July 17th, so 41 days.

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