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Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



I missed last week's episode of LWT because my U-Verse DVR has been making GBS threads a brick and deleting recorded programs, most likely due to a worn-out HDD. Unfortunately, the replacement DVR they sent us, which is clearly used/refurbished, is doing the same thing, but that's another story. :sigh:

Anyways, I went on HBO GO to catch the episode, and while they have a thumbnail from each episode to presumably help you recognize ones you've seen before, most of the images look like this:



:downs:

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Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Rarity posted:

You're in luck, there was no episode last week!

To clarify, I should've stated the last episode; I missed the one with Mike Myers and the Canadien election, but I'm streaming it now. Shh! Don't tell me who won yet! :ssh:

mobby_6kl posted:

Well that's what most of the show looks like too, so it's pretty accurate. Also LOL if you can't tell the episode based on John's shirt/tie combination.

Yeah, I was going to say something about having to remember his outfit or his hand gestures. :3:

But seriously though, it would make a lot more sense if the images showed the content of the episode (even if it was just text) rather than a random, ambiguous frame grab.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Solvent posted:

Demand a service credit! AT&T will do anything to retain a market, or if you're silent, to pinch a penny.



It wasn't Bernie Sanders. :toxx:

Already got a monthly credit for a year worth $300 IIRC for the last bad box. Haven't contacted them to complain about his "new" one (which, again, is clearly scuffed up and previously used albeit mostly functional) because I just confirmed it today (had to check with the rest of the family to make sure they didn't delete the recordings I had noticed were missing.) The thing is, our replacement box is the VIP2250, which is their top model, and not only has the largest HDD they offer (500 GB) but is noticeably faster than our previous Cisco/Scientific Atlanta. I'd rather not get another replacement DVR of one of the lesser varieties. Fun fact: their "newest" DVRs like this Motorola came out way back in 2009!

Anyways, I have since watched the October 18 episode, and to prove it, here's the first result I got from the "real" quote generator:



Also, I have now learned that somehow Donald Trump won the Canadien election. :iiam:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Fans posted:

Doctors are prescribing kids Viagra to counter a life threatening lung condition, despite no Clinical Trials having been done on its effect on children. It's a really dumb title for a report on how we give Children drugs tested only on Adults and how little drug testing is done for babies and children because there isn't any money in it and very few parents willing to volunteer their children for a trial.

There's a 20 mg dose of Sildenafil (brand name Revatio, patent protection expired) intended to treat pulmonary hypertension. It's something I never saw outside of working in a hospital (where we don't stock Viagra/Levitra/Cialis for obvious reasons. :awesome:)

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

As a Canadian, I certainly don't miss the penny, and really don't understand what the big deal is with the U.S. not getting rid of theirs yet. I'm surprised it took us as long as it did.

What's with your country, guys? Why are so many common sense things so difficult to grasp?! :psyduck:

I'm totally OK with getting rid of 1˘ coins, but I'll at least point out that some countries use hyperinflated currency where 1˘US is worth like 10000 of their funbux, so our little cent at least has the appearance of being worth a whole lot by comparison! :shobon:

Rated PG-34 posted:

I was confused upon making a transaction at a teller in the US and having to fill out the deposit slip. In backwards Canada-land, that's what the teller does. What's the point of the teller aside from stopping you from stealing all the free pens.

To be fair, the tellers here do a drat good job of guarding the pens. Every time I've tried to run in and grab a handful they take me down with their Karate. :(

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Gonz posted:

My "Cash, most of the time" policy is backed up by the fact that many years ago, my debit information was stolen by some sort of malicious device affixed to a gas station pump.

The following day, my bank called me and said they placed a temporary lock on my account because they thought it was unusual that someone two states over tried to buy $1,800 dollars in electronics at a Wal-Mart.

Ever since then, I only use plastic if I absolutely, positively have to. And even then, I won't hand my card over to anyone. I have to be able to swipe it myself. Otherwise, no dice.

Skimmers are still common and are still a threat, however this is exactly why you should use credit, not debit. Your bank account would not be at risk and you have better protections against unauthorized charges in general, on top of some other benefits that vary between cards.

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Like, I get that this is SA and we need to argue for the argument's sake, but you do know that he means the penny as the smallest denomination of the currency (or unit) that makes up larger denominations like the quarter and the dollar? A quarter is 25 units of 'penny', a dollar is 100 units of 'penny', like the number 1 is the smallest non-fractional number, of which 1,000,000 units make up a million etc.

As previously mentioned, the dollar is our base unit, and low-denomination coins represent fractions thereof, rather than any of our coins/notes representing multiples of a base penny (i.e., the "cent" is not our base unit.) A US quarter is literally defined as a fourth of a dollar and not 25 pennies, as proven by literally every quarter ever, which have "QUARTER DOLLAR" displayed obviously on either the obverse or reverse of every coin.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Baronash posted:

Am I misunderstanding what the FBI was asking Apple to do? I was under the impression —and this segment seemed to suggest— that the FBI was asking them to disable the feature that wipes the phone if the password is entered incorrectly a number of times, not actually develop a backdoor in the encryption itself.

Keep in mind I'm not agreeing with the FBI, I just want to make sure I'm on the same page as all of you.

The FBI wants Apple to develop a custom iOS version that doesn't have the 10-incorrect-guess lockout feature, so they can push it to the phone and unlock it with an automated tool that brute-forces the PIN. I guess it's a backdoor into the phone itself, not into the encryption per se.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Krinkle posted:

Wouldn't you need to unlock the phone to install an upgrade to the phone I don't get this.

Eh, I don't use Apple products because they're poo poo, but I'm presuming that Apple can push software upgrades as long as the device is connected to a network, otherwise none of this would even be up for discussion.

Android devices, for example, can automatically update applications while locked but I'm not sure if OS upgrades work that way. Whenever I receive an OS upgrade prompt I manually initiate it, but I suppose if the device has downloaded the update and you forced a reboot without unlocking it (by using the power button or pulling the battery) it might install the update on next boot.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Krinkle posted:

My phone has literally never updated. It is a bad android that never updates the operating system. Nothing on the google play store is compatible with my version. I was just assuming it would update like windows where you have to log in and then reboot it later.

Goddamn I need a new phone.

What device is this?

bull3964 posted:

Yes, the issue is it defeats a key security measure of the phone. If it is written and used, it will be used for more than just this instance. It will be leaked (either from within sources at Apple or from people who use it.) If Apple does this, they might as well just remove the feature from the OS as it becomes meaningless.

The 10 guesses before wipe is integral to the security since there are only so many combinations. It would be trivial for a machine to cycle though all 10000 combinations of a 4 digit pin. Hell, an extremely bored individual could easily do it in a day manually.

Retry lockout is key to any authentication mechanism. It takes a computationally easy thing and makes it unfeasible.

I understand the topic, my post that you quoted was dealing with the nuance of the discussion: that we are not talking about breaking encryption but rather getting around it by simply guessing the code. The encryption method itself is still unbroken. However on the subject of possible combinations...

bull3964 posted:

It honestly doesn't matter if it's a 4 digit numerical pin or a 6 or even an 8 when you are talking about brute forcing it with a machine with no retry limit/timeout.

Even in the most extreme case, it will probably only take minutes if not seconds to try all the combinations.

Even 6 digits isn't impossible to do manually. It would probably take a few months, but it could be done. 7 to 8 digits is where it starts to become unfeasible to guess manually, but a machine would have no issues.

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/18/passcodes-that-can-defeat-fbi-ios-backdoor/

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Guys, relax, Trump is trolling. (He's actually a goon. :ssh:) If you're not in on it, then unfortunately you're the one getting trolled. :bahgawd:

Just sit back and watch him work his magic. :allears:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

If Trump becomes the actual GOP nominee, we should all be celebrating because he's basically guaranteed to lose the general election. That's without the GOP elites flipping the table and running a third-party candidate to deliberately sabotage Trump, which is itself a very real possibility.

I've been secretly hoping that something like this happens: Trump v. Cruz? v. Hillary... v. Bernie!! That's right, let's say Bernie doesn't get the nomination and also runs as an independent. The election would be pure chaos; no one would get enough votes to win. :eyepop: Ah well, a goon can dream, can't he?

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

You'd have to have the third (and fourth?!) candidates winning whole states, though, because at the end of the day it's still the Electoral College that matters.

The Trump/Cruz/Hillary threeway would actually be the fantasy outcome, because Trump and Cruz would split the Republican bloc and probably hand Hillary Clinton an EC blowout not seen since Reagan.

It was really just about this angle, though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNt0anp7WK8

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



So if someone is elected with huge margins to a safe seat, I wonder why they'd bother begging for donations at that point. What's preventing them from saying, "gently caress the party dues, I've got this poo poo locked down." What is the party going to kick out a hugely popular representative and force them to be an independent, and then try to run a new party candidate against someone who wins 80% of the vote?

At this point I'm realizing why Sanders is independent, and that he's been so lucky to probably largely avoid this fundraising nonsense.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Echo Chamber posted:

They can punish the congressman by not giving them committee positions and also kill the pork running into their district. They can also refuse any bills or amendments they might sponsor.

There's a lot of ways to exercise party discipline.

I hate to bring him up again, but it appears Bernie Sanders has done pretty well for himself without being beholden to party bosses.

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

do you think trump sits in a call center

Of course not, but Trump isn't a politician. He's not even a Republican. :ssh:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



To be fair, the independents are few in number and are the exception rather than the rule. I think we've stumbled upon the real point though: raising funds, even if you don't need to, is worth it for the career advancement via pleasing the rest of the party.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007




Disappointed that they didn't use the opportunity to link the "Contact Us" element on each of the impostor sites to the actual credit bureaus. :saddowns:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



FilthyImp posted:

You could have just said "I dont mean understand this urban 'rap' fad".

drat colored kids and their jungle music! :bahgawd:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



tarlibone posted:

True.

The US certainly is a flaggier place than it was back in 1999. And I should know, because unlike some of you whippersnappers, I was well into my 20s back then. I remember not long after bin Laden went all jet fuel on those steel beams, there were stories in the news about how flag manufacturers and retailers were having serious trouble keeping up with demand.

Unrelated, back then it was popular to call people "flags" minus the 'L' of course :ninja:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



I learned that the Hamilton soundtrack is also free to listen to with Prime Music. I listened to some earlier today, and while I'm not a huge fan of theater in general, this was good. :)

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Hey guys, did you hear there's this kewl new musical called "Hamilton" where these dudes rap about history & stuff? It's pretty :krad:!

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



MrPablo posted:

You're welcome. I don't like talking about what happened to my sister because there is a stigma against mental illness.

There is a stigma, but there shouldn't be; mental illnesses are way more common than many people think.

We're in for a revolution though: Donald Trump is trying to prove that mental illness is not a barrier to ascending to the Presidency! :patriot:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007




loving retards. :wtc:

Anyone with aristic & Photoshop ability want to come up with an apropos version of this:



It's the first thing that came to mind.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



PassTheRemote posted:

Also, U referendum: UK 'must not delay leaving' aka, UK, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I was actually thinking that this is exactly how the rest of the world should respond. I have nothing against the UK, but the situation should be dealt with harshly to communicate the gravity of the decision, and to discourage the rest of the EU members from precipitating a total dissolution.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



The Cheshire Cat posted:

I feel like the problem is that if the rest of the world treats the UK like they probably deserve to be treated for this, the message won't reach the people that it should. It's people voting out of ignorance that made this happen, and if the rest of the world fucks them it's just going to reinforce its their prejudices rather than teach them to treat decisions like these with the gravity they deserve.

It's exactly this, though:

PassTheRemote posted:

The other EU members will have a harder go of it, as most if not all have adopted the Euro. Reintroducing their old currency will be an expensive proposition.

My guess, any other country looking to leave the EU will be looking at the UK's economy and gauge it from there.

(and hopefully this too:)

Asiina posted:

I hope this helps people in the US realize their votes matter, since I still have people saying that they want to vote Trump because it'll be hilarious.

Idiots in Britain are realising perhaps less than 12 hours after their vote that it was a bad idea, and everyone else in the world is seeing what we all knew would happen. The negative outcome of the Brexit vote will probably become even more obvious over time, and should dissuade the remaining members from following. This is especially why the EU needs to respond particularly harshly, to discourage ill-advised secession and to grind this into the thick loving skulls of the Brexit voters.

I mean I'm not trying to sound bitter, especially as it doesn't even directly involve me, but it should have been apparent that weakening the EU and the West in the face of Putin's Soviet resurgence was a terrible idea in the long run, even ignoring the more direct economic consequences to the UK.

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Immediately. "Ironic" Trump supporters are aware of how terrible he would be, but him burning everything down is exactly what they want to happen.

Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNt0anp7WK8&t=8s

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my favorite part of the Brexit voters: the idiots who voted [to leave] because they "didn't think their vote would count." Normally voter apathy causes citizens to not vote because they don't think their votes count. UK citizens apparently have their own logic and are surprised when their actions have consequences.

Fake Edit: Also, Vote Bernie 2016! :toot:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Echo Chamber posted:

There's literally a video above showing what you just said.

Exactly, that's to what I was referring.

On this same subject: http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/24/12023212/brexit-explained-economy-politics-and-the-rest-of-this-mess

Edit: And this too: http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/24/12022880/google-search-spike-brexit-why-leave-eu

:smith:

Atomizer fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Jun 24, 2016

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



The Cheshire Cat posted:

Yes, the whole thing was pretty poorly conceived.

That said, referendums aren't strictly speaking legally binding - they're basically opinion polls where the government just super promises that they will follow through on the results. They could still choose to stay in the EU despite the referendum, although it would likely end several political careers if they did. They would have been in a better position politically if they had said they wouldn't take action without a supermajority before the vote, but to do so now would seem like they're disregarding the results, even if it would be the sensible thing to do with just w close margin.

Like David Cameron's? :downsrim:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Echo Chamber posted:

I had a friend who saw Now You See Me 2; he had that same feeling of "What's the point of this? Why am I here?"

I had no idea this movie existed. :shobon:

Favorite part of the episode though was how he pronounced, "...roided out athletes who responded by yelling 'survey make me angry', crumpling it up, and throwing it to the moon."

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Ur Getting Fatter posted:

For political content, Colbert's show is really good, unfortunately it's at best half of its runtime and it's really obvious that Colbert loving hates doing the rest.

I think he got tired of doing the character, so he decide to retire it and do a "normal" talk show, but "normal" shows are full of fluff and none of it's natural for him.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



mastajake posted:

I enjoy watching the first half hour or so of Colbert every night, but typically won't watch the interviews.

Same here, I almost never watched the interviews on The Daily/Report. I can get through Colbert's Late Shows by only watching the first 15 minutes or so.

IRQ posted:

He knew exactly what he was getting into and a big part of what turns me off of his show is how he tries to imitate Letterman (imitating Carson). I sincerely hate that he left the Report for the Late Show but who am I to judge? From watching it he's definitely happy where he is doing dumb celebrity interviews so good for him.

Solvent posted:

Late night talk shows are terrible. In fact, broadcast tv is terrible, and YouTube spots are for vapid millennials to watch on their cell phones.
Everything is terrible except for prune juice and the Macneil and Lehrer Newshour.

Colbert needs to do his character to be funny.

I'm pretty sure he was tired of doing his character day after day, for almost a decade, which is why he decided to end it on a high note and go to the much more banal Late Show. He should probably just bring back "Colbert" on occasion, maybe once a week, and that should make everybody happy.

Pyroxene Stigma posted:

My girlfriend feels the same way and I just can't understand it. She's always been top three in my eyes.

poo poo, just the Susan G. Komen fracking bit alone should be enough.

Almost everybody I know likes Sam, but one of my female co-workers thinks she's annoying. I was surprised when she first told me, but I guess it's sort of a catty female dislike thing.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



I'll always be here for you buddy! Chin up! :glomp:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

This is admittedly a dumb criticism, but Full Frontal would be a better show if she just had a desk. The way she presents the show standing next to a frame of whatever she's talking about makes me feel like I'm watching Tosh.0 or something.

Eh, I don't think any of those guys need to be behind a desk any more than they need to be standing up for no reason; it's just a personal preference thing. Trevor even started standing up for the opening, which I'm sure was partly because he was comfortable doing that being a stand-up comedian (like Jon Stewart.)

You're right though, now that you mentioned it Full Frontal does resemble Tosh in that presentation.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



I think part of her approach was knowing that Hillary would (and did) get the nomination so she gave Hil-dawg her support, because obviously she's not a fan of Trump. If Bernie received the nomination I think she would've supported him whole-heartedly as well. She just went full "get over it Bernie Bros" mode out of realism.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Oh Snapple! posted:

Looking at my keyboard, he possibly did a typo.

I'm going to unironically say that was intentional. "Billary" Clinton will be the next President of the United States. :colbert:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Trump News: The Fairest, Balancedest, with the biggest, best, most beautiful hands.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



I think the core support by politicians for charter schools is just due to lobbying and the usual factors, and the peripheral support is because they don't "seem" like a bad idea. A sincere politician may know that some charter schools are terrible, but some aren't and the exact same could be said about public schools, so they're like "gently caress it, charter schools are fine with me." Even though they really shouldn't be necessary in the first place. Education shouldn't be for-profit at any level, with the colleges being the most egregious example.

hemophilia posted:

Entrusting education to the private sector is a loving horrible idea and charter schools are just a way to sidestep the fact that public schools are a patchwork of over and underfunded schools and I'm frankly loving lucky to go to school where and when I did. I graduated before the testing batteries became utterly insane, and before tons of investment in arts and language education was cut in favor of reinvesting in stem and sports, both of which were already excellent programs, but i was lucky and a few miles north i could have gone to school where even core studies were underfunded and taught by unqualified teachers.

Education should be robustly public, well and equally funded across the board. Rather than doing that we just have politicians trying to dump the problem on the private sector which is a mistake and gently caress everyone in power and out of it who thinks otherwise.

Bernie 2016! :toot: :unsmith:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



As a Cubs fan and long-time Daily Show watcher I distinctly remembered that Cubs reference and wondered if anyone else did the same. I'm kind of glad John brought it up again for obvious reasons. :unsmith:

Here's the whole clip for anyone interested: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/260mio/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-stupid-vote

I have no opinions on Trump or MLM because any sane person knows both of those things are bullshit.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



IRQ posted:

These people think they're going to engage in armed resistance when Obama/Hillary/etc come to round up the guns.

I guess that won't be a problem any more! :suicide:

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



I love the idea of the fake Cowboy commercials, but was I the only one surprised when John said they'd be airing on Fox and CNN + MSNBC? I mean we know Trump gets his info from 24-hour cable news but I'm pretty sure he only watches one of those stations.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Dragonrah posted:

Oh it's not that. I wanted to post a hug smiley but we don't have one?

This one? :glomp:

Invalid Validation posted:

Not enough to keep cheeto man from being elected.

Needed more than a surplus of ~3M, apparently. 62,985,106>65,853,625 :rolleyes:

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Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



stone cold posted:

Dog pizza best pizza.

My favorite part, as a dog person/parent/owner/whatever, was that the dog pizza not only had a stuffed dog toy on top, but the toy was torn open and there was stuffing all over the place. That really captures the essence of what it's like to have a dog in the family. :3:

Echo Chamber posted:

If Trump survives the current mess he's in, it's possible he could be a worse president than Bush and achieve a higher body count. But I'm always going to personally hate Bush more.

I don't want to get too into the whole "Bush v. Trump, who's worse" thing, but I'll admit that for every lovely thing that happened under Bush, I'd still rather have him as President than Trump/Bannon/Putin (for various reasons.) Your comment above, though, led me to summarize the Bush/Trump comparison as, "We hate what Bush did more than what Trump has done, but we hate Trump personally far more than Bush." Bush was a dumb oaf, Trump is a gigantic demented idiotic narcissistic man-child with tiny hands.

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