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MisterZimbu posted:I'd like to enjoy it, but they keep making fun of both my favorite hockey team and my crush (Janice from accounting) Janice don't give a gently caress. Why do you?
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Sep 29, 2016 18:52
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Jamesman posted:Haven't watched the full episode yet, but I watched the main story on YouTube. I think the concept of "accountability" is a necessary first step for many people, because there are so many people whose knee-jerk reaction to any police criticism is the same "don't judge by a few bad apples" or #NotAllCops, just like the assholes he featured in that segment who are paid to be on TV to talk about this poo poo. These are also the people who actually believe BLM is somehow a "racist hate group" that hates cops just 'cause and despite almost everyone involved saying "we just want some accountability" can't grasp the idea of a bad cop despite the many cases documented on video or in print, or even that the "bad / dirty cop" has been an American TV / movie trope for decades, because they personally have never had a bad experience, and this is a just world and the people who are supposed to protect us would never do us harm. And if there is evidence that just can't be denied, they can just "no true scotsman" those cases away and remain blissfully and willfully ignorant. So, it's important to show this, which demonstrates that the system is hosed up on the most basic level, with "gypsy cops" and whistleblowers being harassed and retaliated against, and the police union having free reign to muscle its way into doing whatever it wants and being beholden to no one. raditts fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Mr Interweb posted:Am I the only one who never heard about this Billy Bush douchebag until this story came out? Probably. I think Dubya's daughter, Jenna Bush Hager, is still on the Today Show too, she reads all her segments like she's reciting a high school book report. No idea when that show became a repository for discarded Bushes.
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Oct 11, 2016 04:00
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IRQ posted:I'd never heard of him either, of course, I don't watch trash like access hollywood. Didn't you watch The Soup when that was still on? I thought you were one of like the 5 people aside from me that did.
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Oct 13, 2016 15:35
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What the hell is Kwanzaa?Ausmund posted:I mean, I don't want it to be. But, like, what if it is? What if it turns out to be true? People are so afraid of even looking like they defend him they won't attempt to pinpoint an underlying cause that doesn't have anything to do with attacking his character. The rationale seems to be, "Trump is such a bad person! He can't be the president! He just can't!" Dude I don't know what alternate dimension you're from where the trump campaign isn't more of a joke than it's ever been, but it sounds horrifying. raditts fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Oct 25, 2016 08:10
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EL BROMANCE posted:I'm surprised Oliver hasn't brought up Brexit because it's incredibly relevant to what's going on. The left wing derided the right wing as stupid idiots who didn't know anything and believed everything they were told, and so they responded by voting for Brexit with great passion. Even if it wasn't what they truly wanted. People don't like to be looked down upon and have their opinion disregarded, especially when there's some validity and they're being made vague promises that won't be kept. Aside from what's already been said, the $64,000 question though, is what do you even say to people who are not only okay with their chosen candidate bragging about his bold sexual-assault-based strategy for approaching women and belittling, criminalizing approach to people of color, but actually praise it. It's not all just an issue of the rage of the disenfranchised right, there are some legit disgusting opinions baked all through that voting base and that is not something to be ignored. You're giving them way too much credit to believe otherwise. raditts fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Oct 26, 2016 17:27
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Servaetes posted:Moore is the left equivalent of Anne Coulter--a massive blowhard that serves a particular kind of poo poo particular people eat up. Guy isn't gonna turn people's heads that aren't already buying into it, and he's got a penchant for melodrama. And yeah most people expect a documentary to generally not have a slant, they want a spade called a spade in utter neutrality as the intent is to get someone to think a little and make their decision. It wasn't fair for Ben Stein to call his goofy creationist film a documentary either, for what it's worth. That's unfair, because Moore might be a blowhard but he has at least one foot set in reality. If a "left equivalent of Anne Coulter" really exists, I'd say Bill Maher is the closest to that.
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Oct 27, 2016 16:35
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Veskit posted:Moore makes good documentaries that have facts in them. How does that make him anything close to Ann Coulter? well, I watched "Team America World Police" one time, and
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Oct 27, 2016 17:54
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There's a reason that "truth in the middle" opinions are so widely mocked, the least of which being that it demonstrates an astounding lack of understanding nuance mixed with smugness that you're somehow above it all and have all the real answers.
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Oct 27, 2016 20:22
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Rated PG-34 posted:Guys, everything is fake. For example, the moon landing was all faked, google it. It's true. Not going to argue with you jerks about it. Why should I believe you? You're fake!
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Oct 27, 2016 21:39
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SlothfulCobra posted:
Remember when we thought the same thing in 2009, when we thought the idea of Vice President Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh becoming the de facto GOP leader was rock bottom? And yet, here we are. Get ready for the same unfounded hatefulness and fumbling for reasons to stage an impeachment for the next 4-8 years as there was for the last 8, just that this time it will be built on a foundation of sexism instead of racism. raditts fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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Oct 30, 2016 16:51
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Hawkgirl posted:It's not even just selfish to act this way, it is downright not in their best interest. It's shortsighted as gently caress to go "but my child needs the best opportunities to succeed" when what's really best for your loving kid is for everyone to have a legit loving chance to grow up with good opportunities so that the society your kid lives in is not quite as hosed up and terrible. You gotta teach your kids the valuable life skill of "gently caress you got mine" as early as possible.
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Nov 2, 2016 00:10
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tsob posted:Maybe it's because I'm not American and living in the right culture to get this, or maybe I'm just dense but I have no idea what you're on about. What was white privilege times 6 million about Jews? Don't worry, I can't parse that insanity either. I guess he feels there was something privileged about being a victim of the Holocaust? And that black people can/should be envious of that??
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Nov 2, 2016 20:48
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Veskit posted:http://rollingout.com/2015/10/07/obama-administration-earmarks-12-million-reparations-holocaust-survivors/ That doesn't make the idea that it's somehow okay or understandable for black people to hate Jews any less insane. Japanese-Americans got reparations for being put into internment camps by the US government during WW2. Is it okay to hate them? What part of this is not bonkers to you? edit: just saw muscles' post at the bottom of the previous page. So I guess don't answer? Or do? Or PM? Whatever. raditts fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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Nov 2, 2016 23:28
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Haha, so I'm not the only one that was watching Rachel Maddow last night. That guy is loving insane, I'm pretty sure I've heard a word salad similar to that Infowars clip a few times from homeless people in Baltimore. You're forgetting the proof of death in the white man murder requirement though - they had to bring back a severed head, or if that wasn't possible, a severed ear.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:27
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I wonder how many of them just paid off a guy at the Morgue for John Doe parts. At least 14 of them did not.
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Nov 5, 2016 05:52
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Randandal posted:I'm trying to figure out if the dog fell in love with Man-Gumby because it smelled familiar or because it looked familiar, and if this is actually just about a dog being a racist and moving into another school district because this show doesn't seem to celebrate absurdity in the same way it used to. Not sure, but it clearly doesn't work in all cases
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Nov 5, 2016 22:32
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God Hole posted:I was in college when Vemma was tearing its way through every social circle on campus. They would have weird recruiting gatherings every other day where they'd all drink each other's kool aid, scream YPR! YPR! the entire time (young people revolution) and then throw huge ragers where everyone's chasing their shots with disgusting Verve! energy drinks because everyone had cases of them stacked in their room. Cutco was the big thing when I was in college. People would just go into lecture halls and write vague poo poo like *** WINTER BREAK WORK! $18 / hour! CALL ######## *** And when you called the number they still wouldn't tell you what the gently caress it was about until you attended a "group interview" where they told you they wanted you to loving sell knives door to door. Echo Chamber posted:I work on a college campus, and I'm familiar with Vector Marketing's horseshit. Ah, so they're still alive and festering I see. I remember in the "group interview" there were at least a couple people who could barely speak English that somehow "passed" the interview. That was the first of many red flags in the couple of weeks I wasted my time with that poo poo. I managed to end up making a couple hundred dollars' profit just by going to do presentations in my neighborhood, but then they told me they wouldn't pay me for the presentations anymore if I didn't sell anything so I told them to gently caress themselves. CrashCat posted:I suspect even more people will panic buy guns if he doesn't. "Will"? raditts fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 17:59
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lifts cats over head posted:Not to mention unpaid training days required to sell them. Haha, you quoted before I edited to add more bullshit to that part, but yeah, that was another red flag. I remember how incredulous my parents were when I told them how they tried to demand you attend these mandatory "business meetings" that you didn't get paid for.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:09
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Ausmund posted:That's exactly the point. Hate is universally toxic. Social progress, human decency, and empathy are good things. But getting angry and hating people that you perceive to not share those values the way you want them to doesn't accomplish anything positive. It backfired. Hard. I don't think it's as simple as that though. For example, see Black Lives Matter whose message is mainly "stop stereotyping and killing black people over trivial poo poo" to which the response is that they're somehow "encouraging racism" and are "a terrorist hate group" that some people see fit to compare to the loving Klan. All for the audacity of not wanting to be treated as less than human. The most interesting example was one I saw today where, in comparing BLM to the KKK, referred to them instead as "Thug Lives Matter."
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Nov 11, 2016 22:49
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Would Hitler gain his powers by various items like Mario, or by consuming his enemies whole like Kirby?
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Nov 12, 2016 19:52
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I said come in! posted:I think within the next 2 years, 90% of the country is going to hate Drumpf (it happened to Bush at one point). Almost certainly, once all the people that claim they voted on his "economic platform" and not because of all the racism and xenophobia realize they've been duped. With the naked corruption he's already displaying in choosing his transition team and trying to game his pending trials, I think there is a very real possibility of him being successfully impeached. Imagine, history before our very eyes.
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Nov 14, 2016 06:38
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Maybe this is finally the catalyst for Obama to declare martial law and name himself president for life, just like the right has been fearing for eight years!
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Nov 14, 2016 06:56
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Drifter posted:I'd rather have Drumpf as President than Pence. Odds are, if we don't have literal President Pence, then we're going to have de facto President Pence anyway because I doubt Trump has either the capability or the attention span to actually do the job himself. He's already talking about wanting to split time with the White House and his gilded tower in New York.
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Nov 14, 2016 07:11
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Rated PG-34 posted:Oliver should've emphasized how much disproportionately more they covered the trump campaign. If they went into the precise numbers, it's pretty galling stuff. Facebook echo chambers is probably the press trying to deflect blame. He did a bit, with that clip of Jeff "Dumb Fucker" Zucker.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:42
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Rated PG-34 posted:Yeah, but even that dumb fucker only goes so far to say that they put on too many of Drumpf's clips, which has a distinctly different meaning than unequal coverage relative to the other candidates. If anything, we can trust the media to deflect blame, and not fully admit their complicity in the trumpening. If we go further into why they gave him so much coverage, it's obvious that it was because he was a huge ratings cash cow, and it's another example of the corporate media dicking over the public in pursuit of profits. Yeah, probably could have helped to re-air the bit where Les Moonves straight up admitted he didn't give a gently caress because it got ratings. Murica.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:53
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Duzzy Funlop posted:So how about Last Week Tonight, huh? You might as well bail on this thread for a couple months so you don't have to read, well, all of this.
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Nov 17, 2016 00:45
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Vodos posted:She started out really progressive but MSNBC slowly but surely turned her into yet another corporate media hack. I haven't watched her / MSNBC regularly in years. What has changed about her show? I remember it seeming like she did a good job of researching topics and fact checking.
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Propaganda Machine posted:Even Bill Maher said of Hillary versus Bernie, if you can't have the fish, take the chicken and shut your pie hole. No sir, I'm not gonna compromise. Either I get that fish or I'm gonna make both of us eat pound after pound of poo poo!
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Do you know how when you were in junior high, there was that one *rear end in a top hat* kid who was ~cool~ simply because he always had new words that upset the teachers whenever he said them? That's basically why "cuck" is part of the political vocabulary now. "Cuck" is the new "human being" to 4channers and alt-right redditors, since "human being" has lost its pizazz and will get your subreddit closed for hate speech. to be fair, like most terrible things, people here were (over)using the term way before it caught on with the rest of the internet.
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Feb 15, 2017 23:27
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Gyges posted:I'd say it's more "The Way of America" vs "The American Way". Much of the whole Red State reaction is that the way things are supposed to be is totally changing. All those manufacturing jobs are gone/disappearing and the way it was so much better to be an average white dude is starting to change. Previous generations were fine with it because they say their prosperity growing, but now things are changing and everything they've ingrained in themselves as the way things are is being upended. Pretty much, yeah. Nostalgia and tradition are things that are held in highest honor in American culture. Sticking to tradition results in things like still measuring things using the retarded rear end imperial system because "that's how we've always done it", and nostalgia is not so much based in reality as it is in (white male) baby boomers' rose-colored memories of the mid-20th century, when people could afford a house, education, and family on a single income, and it was both acceptable and encouraged to subjugate women and minorities. That, and reruns of Leave it to Beaver that romanticize all that "small town main street" bullshit. When nostalgia and tradition mix with a narrow worldview, you get resistance to change because "it was that way when I was a kid and I turned out fine" which gets applied to anything from beating your children / spouse, to bullying being considered acceptable, to racial / sexual discrimination, to excusing any number of crimes committed on the basis of "boys will be boys." Xealot posted:I'm fully aware of what the alt-right philosophy on ethno-cultural American identity is. And of course they wouldn't self-describe their behavior towards women as "brutalizing." But they probably would say that feminism permits women to act out with carte blanche and that it's a man's duty to keep women submissive and appropriately feminine. The notion that women would sleep around unless her man keeps her in check is not something I'm making up, it's a part of that viewpoint. Clearly, the belief that women need to be controlled externally because they can't control themselves is a pervasively-held idea. This is also reflected in the absurd notion that organized religion (read: christianity) is the only thing keeping the population from constantly murdering and raping like it was The Purge. quote:A more controversial point: I don't actually think it does pay to accurately and sensitively understand the hearts and minds of all political viewpoints. Things like, "globalization has destabilized American manufacturing," or "center-left Democrats have no political interest in addressing that problem" are all valid complaints. "America is by and for white people" and "[Mexicans/muslims/immigrants] are a moral and economic plague on white society" is political scatology. They do not deserve a podium, and I do not care what their rationale is. This shouldn't be controversial, but 20 years of Fox News pushing the idea that "all viewpoints, no matter how poorly researched or disconnected from reality, deserve equal time with legitimate journalism" along with real news outlets taking them seriously has brought things that this point. raditts fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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coyo7e posted:drat y'all got SUPER upset thar at me making fun of you for acting like a Nazi - so you came back to reiterate that, in fact, you're a Nazi. Or autistic - because you keep eyeing the prize when the field was moved on you. The gently caress?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It only really started sucking when the fanboys adopted it and ran it into the ground for months and months. A guy I know here in Australia was still using Drumpf up until just a few weeks ago. I still have the chrome filter plugin installed and I regret nothing Echo Chamber posted:That all said, I do find it frustrating that both John Oliver and Lin Manuel Miranda both have become symbols of that liberal arrogance too. Oliver's bit about school segregation indicts liberal hypocrisy instead of covering it up. And John Oliver loves bashing corporations (with nuance) and avoids bashing Red State America. And LMM has talked a lot about growing up poor and how he relates to all those people who will never see a Broadway show in their lives. It's also interesting that LMM has become such a popular target, despite hardly being the first person to have a wildly successful show on Broadway. For the life of me I can't figure out why, though... I can't think of a single reason why... raditts fucked around with this message at 14:45 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 14:39
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bull3964 posted:Bush caused a lot of suffering for people both domestic and abroad. He also further destabilized a region. He still left the country more or less as is though. He left the country in an economic crisis. It's fascinating how many people seem to have amnesia about that little detail when it hasn't even been a full decade.
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coyo7e posted:At least Bush Sr believed in working to combat climate change, unlike Reagan who was so anti-energy-conservation that he loving removed the solar powered water heating system Carter had installed during his time in office, or his son Bush Jr. It's really quite insane that the "conservative" identity has basically become "whatever liberals support, do the exact opposite" no matter how absurd that might be. And now that has become "literally support Russian tampering in our election process, and cheering on Nazis and klansmen"
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I think you grossly overestimate trump's "understanding" of anything he's doing in any context that doesn't involve self-aggrandizement.
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nessin posted:That chart, and the data it's based off of, says nothing to point you're trying to make. And to be fair it's a common problem. Clinton had a balanced budget in that the projection for each year showed a net positive dollar value, which is a good thing, but he (and Congress) then went on to spend the budget surplus and then some. The net result is that the amount of debt held by the US increased. Which means short of being able to say he didn't leave the budget in a condition comparable to the 4 utterly terrible examples over the last century, he didn't do anything special and showing how the Government had a projected budget surplus for a few of his years is 100% misleading and irrelevant when talking about the debt or for showing actual responsible federal spending. Either way, Bush unambiguously followed things up by violently making GBS threads the bed.
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Azhais posted:Bring on any Clinton! Let's give George a try George would legalize weed at the very least. And I could get behind the cabinet picks he listed in Chocolate City.
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