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Sep 9, 2001

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axeil posted:

But "the kids get a degree" so people who aren't aware of how bullshit it all is don't see anything wrong. Calling the education most of the big time basketball/football athletes get a college degree is a god damned joke.

Yeah but that's the worst kept secret there is in all of this. Everyone knows they're getting degrees, if they get them, that are worth less than nothing. It's why all the former college athletes that get interviewed are selling cars or some bullshit like that. Everyone knows, just nobody cares.

It's part of why the conceit that they aren't just university employees for farm teams is ridiculous.

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Sep 9, 2001

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sbaldrick posted:

My question is how did a story about a bunch of politicians being an assholes to a group of 4th graders not make it as a national story till now?

Business as usual isn't generally news.

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Sep 9, 2001

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notaspy posted:

One of the things that got me about the long form bit was how little of a shot the audience gave about what was happening and I'm going to put it down to class. The people of the receiving end of this poo poo seem to be working class folk.

It's just incredibly hard for most people to imagine not having $41 to pay a ticket.

Which is perhaps the bigger problem.

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Sep 9, 2001

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Sep 9, 2001

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Sep 9, 2001

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Paper Kaiju posted:

Ah, now I FINALLY understand Irish Joe's gimmick. All this time I thought he was just a personification of the just-world fallacy, but now I see that he's just a poster who doesn't understand survivorship bias.

His gimmick is that he's trolling you people.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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MikeJF posted:

The coffee was so ridiculously hot it fused her vagina shut. Don't ridicule the McDonalds hot coffee case. :stonk:

That case is the "hurrrrr it's cold outside what global warming you stupid hippies!" of the legal field, idiots will never stop bringing it up as if it proves whatever point they think they're making.

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Sep 9, 2001

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xcore posted:

What's the deal here? Do you have to go to court for every ticket/fine you get? Can't you just get the ticket and jump on Paypal and pay the fine?

Well one of his is a fix-it ticket, which is like if you have a tail light out you go get it replaced then show up and say "yep it's fixed here's the work order" and then you don't pay anything.

Drunk in public I couldn't say, cause I can hold my liquor.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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No blood for dick pics!

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Sep 9, 2001

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Katana Gomai posted:

It does for Americans, apparently. I'm German and Snowden is a hero here; it confuses me deeply that people in the US don't even seem to know him. At the very least, I expected them to have bought into some Fox News traitor spin.

"Man on the street" segments are intended to prove a point, confirm a bias, land a joke/etc. Not to be accurate.

Yes they found some idiots that didn't know who Snowden was, yes there are a lot of them, but I promise you people are stupid and ignorant of what goes on around them in every country or grouping you can come up with, in roughly equal measure. I mean, Germans don't exactly have a sterling reputation for keeping their government from loving up now do you?

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Sep 9, 2001

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Strobe posted:

"Yeah well your country sucks too" is such a wonderful counterstatement. :allears:

Did you hear a whooshing sound above you just then? That was the point.

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Sep 9, 2001

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Strobe posted:

Going back and reading, I did miss the point you were trying to make.

If only that made your lovely joke worth reading.

You really don't find it somewhat ironic that a german was taking america to task for letting our government do lovely things? I mean I know it's :godwin: as gently caress but come on! Lighten up.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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I agree with Irish Joe sometimes. Usually when I'm being a dick about something, but in this case he's right.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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No Butt Stuff posted:

Wait, billionaires will give me money to give a power point presentation about how breakfast makes us happy?

I thought everyone just got up there and talked for free.

I think TED X is the free one? Not sure as they all suck for the most part.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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Majorian posted:

Fair point, but still, I imagine there are at least tape backup systems on the market that aren't as old and decrepit as the ones the IRS seems to be forced to use.

Things like this often aren't a lack of money but a lack of will. "It works" is the reason a lot of outdated things are still being used, that goes for the private sector as well.

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Sep 9, 2001

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ACES CURE PLANES posted:

John called all of that food disgustingly cheap, but for my budget, most of that seemed really expensive. Almost two bucks for a taquito? Eight bucks for a chicken? That's some pretty pricey stuff, usually if I buy meat, I stick to around 1-2 dollars a pound, assuming boneless. 80 cents per pound for bone-in stuff.

That said though, even I don't trust that sushi.

Yeah 8 bucks is about right for a grocery store rotisserie chicken.

And I really don't know how you fix the problem of the first world not wanting to pay a shitload of money for clothing/electronics and also not wanting to buy clothing/electronics made by child slaves, but sending gas station sushi to CEOs doesn't seem like it. It's kind of an issue that I don't see much solution to.

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Sep 9, 2001

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Jonas Albrecht posted:

Is Our Friend Israel even still in the pipeline?

Was it ever in anything but this thread's dreams?

(for the record, I loving hate Israel's politics, I just don't think it was ever really a thing)

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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MikeJF posted:

Nah, Joe Biden's a cool dude.

He's pretty handsy with the ladies though.

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Sep 9, 2001

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Sep 9, 2001

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Veskit posted:

Is Irish joe an idiot or does he know what he's doing I can't tell.

Both, but mostly the latter.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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TLG James posted:

Actually it seems like the Hare was the wisest one. He called out the fruit on it's poo poo.

I want more backstory, like how did the pineapple even get into the starting position.

Plot holes you could drive a bushel of bananas through.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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DoggPickle posted:

You can't have a mascot for every cause. It's just stupid.

You made Jeff the Diseased Lung cry :(

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Sep 9, 2001

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DoggPickle posted:

AKA everybody dies?? :laffo:

3000 pages of food porn about the pineapple and pineapplecakes and then it ends in a wet fart.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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smg77 posted:

None of GRRM's projects ever end. He just keeps putting off continuing them while he gets distracted with other poo poo.

Oh I'm quire sure ASOIAF is as finished as it's ever going to be by him.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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Irish Joe posted:

So if we make the top 1% poorer, without changing anything about bottom 20%, the bottom 20% will become magically smarter?

Makes sense.

The implicit racism really makes this post, especially because the other guy completely missed it and in fact agreed. Bravo, Joe. :golfclap:



But yes, not tying school funding to local property taxes would go a long way towards making the bottom 20% better educated - they would, of course, remain as smart as anyone.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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Narcissus1916 posted:

This week's episode would be a perfect time to delve into how hosed up democratic elections (or the press) are these days.

But instead, he'll probably mention it at the top of the show and then pivot to discussing... con men or faulty mechanics or some other wanky obvious target.

Why? Yes I'm aware that it was a major conservative victory and the UK may withdraw from the EU and that the SNP sweep could lead to Scotland then leaving the UK and joining the EU but who cares and why should we?

Also is there a more obvious topic than how hosed up democratic elections, the press being garbage, and campaign finance are?

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

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OhYeah posted:

That "gently caress the mothers" policy

Actually it's gently caress anyone who isn't rich. I mean really get it right.

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Sep 9, 2001

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OhYeah posted:

I went to the show's facebook page and read the comments. Now I wish I hadn't. So many people yelling stuff like "WHY SHOULD I WORK TWICE AS MUCH SO THAT SOME oval office MOTHER CAN TAKE TIME OFF???".

This is actually somewhat understandable when you consider how little time off we get in this shithole of a country. If we had reasonable workdays and time off you probably wouldn't see that position expressed so often, but this is ARE CUNTRY so a horrible injury or illness getting you out of work is practically a vacation.

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Sep 9, 2001

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Pinky Artichoke posted:

Are you kidding? There is nothing the corporate culture in this country seems to disapprove of more than parenthood. I've had a boss who used the imagined possibility that I might choose to have a child and take time off as the excuse for lovely behavior.

This is a big part of why women make less money too.

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Sep 9, 2001

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OhYeah posted:

Are you just too lazy to read posts in this thread or if not, why don't you address the following three simple points?



Is there anyone who believes that a country should be run like a corporation?

I guess you missed the last 10 years of republicans bitching that the postal service isn't turning a profit.

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Sep 9, 2001

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OhYeah posted:

I mean developed countries, with a high standard of living.

As for counterarguments.. you haven't really provided any yet.

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Sep 9, 2001

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Irish Joe posted:

It depends on how you define humanitarian. Many would argue that freedom and independence (as opposed to dependence on government assistance) is more humanitarian because it better supports the innate dignity of man. The government needing to step in and pay for somebody's care presupposes that they're both helpless and incapable of caring for themselves, like children. Do you really think its better to live in a society where you, as an adult, are perceived as being like a child your entire life?

hell yeah

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Sep 9, 2001

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DoggPickle posted:

But anything more than that?? I'm completely against. I don't need miniature future people to pay for my retirement, because I scrimped and saved like people should. (Shut up about bootstraps bootstraps. It's entirely possible, barring a really terrible childhood where you are just screwed from the get-go, and that's an entirely different issue)

I guess it comes down to.. do we NEED more people on Earth, and my answer is a complete NO, so why encourage it at the expense of those currently living??

Your kid, helps me in ZERO WAYS. Why should I pay for it? If you're my friend, I might help you out with money or something, but a stranger's kid? F that kid. I don't care at all. I don't think this is a troll question at all!! Deadly serious :) Pick apart my post like I'm some kind of crazy person if you want.. but just explain to me why I should personally care about "other people" having babies and getting paid for it? It's not even good for "the earth" in a general sense, so what possible argument could you have?

This is just one segment where I 100% disagree with Oliver.

I addressed the gently caress you got mine position a couple pages ago:

IRQ posted:

This is actually somewhat understandable when you consider how little time off we get in this shithole of a country. If we had reasonable workdays and time off you probably wouldn't see that position expressed so often, but this is ARE CUNTRY so a horrible injury or illness getting you out of work is practically a vacation.

Basically I'll give you a horrible monster mulligan on this one because the labor force really is hosed over here, and it's hard to have things like "empathy for others" when the last time you had a weekday off was because you were spouting dubious fluids from one or more holes. Hows about we make things better for everyone, babby, babby momma, babby daddy, and people who will never have kids. How about that craaaaazy idea?

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Sep 9, 2001

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DoggPickle posted:

I just read like 5 pages in a row. If you could reiterate, I would be appreciative. Why should I, personally, want people to get more leave for choosing to have babies when it only effects me negatively?

Why does it have to effect you negatively? You should have better time off too.

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Sep 9, 2001

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JT Jag posted:

I don't see how it's my responsibility to pay for women to have babies - A bunch of supposedly liberal male posters and Irish Joe

I think the only one not trolling is a lady actually. Go figure?

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Sep 9, 2001

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Pyroxene Stigma posted:

I live on a coast and don't plan on having children, but I still support robust maternity leave. Actually, it's not that altruistic: I just don't want to work with new moms.

This too, people with new kids suck. They always reek and won't shut up about their stupid kids. Nobody but you think's it's cute, new parents.

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Sep 9, 2001

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DoggPickle posted:

That sounds like a pretty decent system, but then you have a bunch of people who only get 18 months of a job at a time? Who are those people? Fresh out of College or younger people? What do they do when their 18 months is up? And how much of that time is spent teaching this new person how to do the job properly? I completely get what you're saying, and it sounds reasonable until I think about all theses random temporary hires flowing in and out of my office, and the much higher expenses for my employer, which would generally mean that I get paid less.

P.S. A year and half! Holey moley, that is a lot.

You just seem really trapped in the mindset that gently caress you got mine is the only way anything good happens for you. How about gently caress the rich and help out your fellow workers? Fighting with others for the scraps we do get is only going to hurt everyone - you are part of everyone, by the way.

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Sep 9, 2001

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DoggPickle posted:

It's purposefully self-centered. I was asking y'all to tell me WHY I should want this thing.

You honestly don't see how improving workers' rights in one aspect might lead to improving them in others? But it doesn't immediately benefit you so gently caress it I guess?

I don't understand.

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Sep 9, 2001

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How are u posted:

Who would have thought that the most controversial LWT segment on a forum full of single white men would be about women's maternity leave.

:allears:

And that the only person seriously arguing against it is a woman.

What was your point again?

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Sep 9, 2001

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DoggPickle posted:

I support workers getting more leave per year, higher minimum wage, and more job security for weird emergencies. I just don't see choosing to have babies as a worker's rights issue. That's just where we differ. If we had universal healthcare, that would be great too.

But why isn't that a workers' right? I don't get it. It's a major life event that happens to most people. I get that you don't plan pn having kids so you don't give a gently caress because you have no empathy for parents or something, I don't wants kids either, but when my dad died, I wound up taking off about a week and a half, you'd also argue that that's not ok?

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