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I like Bagley; I believe he pencilled Thunderbolts for a while and I liked that a lot. I associate him so much with the Ultimate Spidey that it was kinda weird to learn he'd been doing art for the main Spider-Man titles in the 1990s, worked on the early Clone Saga and drew the issue with the death of (the actress pretending to be ) Aunt May. Is it fair to call him a definitive Spider artist, along with Ditko, Romita and Romita, Jr.?
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2014 08:55 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 08:52 |
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Should I get the Roger Stern omnibus? I've heard it's meant to be good.
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# ¿ May 1, 2014 15:11 |
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Okay, you've sold me. I've sent off for a copy of the Stern omnibus. Probably neither the time nor place, but from that same era, how is Mantlo's run on Hulk? The only Hulk I've read is the first half of PAD's run.
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# ¿ May 2, 2014 01:12 |
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The Question IRL posted:Nothing will ever be more 90's than a panel of Solo jumping through a plate glass window firing two pistols. All while shouting out " While Solo lives, TERROR DIES!" Make it Solo and Cardiac and it'll be more nineties.
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# ¿ May 5, 2014 21:35 |
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ThermoPhysical posted:Isn't Grant Morrison considered to be close to insane in all seriousness? It's either him or Frank Miller I heard that about... Because that entire quote just feels unhinged and weird. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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# ¿ May 11, 2014 23:25 |
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Facepalm Ranger posted:Ahhh those were the days Yep, I followed Astonishing Spider-Man, Essential X-Men (started both with #100, which both had multi-page spreads recapping the entire series up to that point), Mighty World of Marvel (featuring Daredevil and the Hulk), Avengers United (just before it ran JLA/Avengers) and Fantastic Four Adventures.
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# ¿ May 16, 2014 10:47 |
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The original "Web Heads" who followed JMS on Amazing were Dan Slott, Zeb Wells, Bob Gale, Todd DeZago and Marc Guggenheim. They were joined by Joe Kelly, Mark Waid and Roger Stern part of the way through, then Quesada did OMIT and Slott took over full time.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2014 18:52 |
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Suben posted:I hope that means we can get '90s TAS Spidey meeting SHOOOOOOCKEEEEERRRRRR. Unfortunately, there's already been a Spider-Man story in the last few years called "The Ends of the Earth".
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2014 00:29 |
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Doc Ock gets a new body, and it's an Austrian body-builder (he can even start calling his arms "weldoes") with a stupid haircut in a suit of green and orange armour.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2014 00:36 |
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ThermoPhysical posted:I don't know how I feel about it. It felt gory just for the sake of it...kind of like Ultimate Marvel's Ultimatum. Oddly enough, I think the artist who did OML's art did Ultimatum's too. David Finch did Ultimatum; OML was Steven McNiven, who did Civil War with Millar.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 23:52 |
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ThermoPhysical posted:Ahhh, ok. I got confused a bit there. I've read Civil War too so I knew I knew the art from somewhere. For what it's worth, I'm fairly sure that Finch is basically (along with Jim Lee) the New 52 artist at the moment.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 00:36 |
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Flameingblack posted:It's likely it's from the 90's era Spider-Man cartoon. I remember that being a power-up in the PS1/N64 game based on the animated series as well.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 01:11 |
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Lurdiak posted:In my world I'm a multi billionaire. Aren't you? "Probably because I never lose. " Also, Jameson is his godfather and the Kingpin is his lawyer.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2014 09:04 |
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Is Strangling Turkish Spider-Man from 3 Dev Adam in this crossover?
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2014 18:02 |
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Gaz-L posted:More accurately, it's how Americans with terrible ears for accents mishear an RP pronunciation of 'ma'am'. It actually sounds closer to 'mom' than 'mum'. It's sometimes "marm".
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2014 00:47 |
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Lurdiak posted:I blame Teen Titans. Do you mean in general or a specific bit?
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2014 17:46 |
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Lurdiak posted:In general. Fair enough, I think I can see that. The only Teen Titans I've read the whole way through was when Geoff Johns wrote it, and then only up as far as just after Infinite Crisis.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2014 20:32 |
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Sure, if they want to keep Spider-Girl going they could give it to Roger Stern (granted, a writer who was quite strongly against Peter getting married) or J. M. DeMatteis or (to a lesser extent) Peter David. Edit: Oh, yeah, or G. Willow Wilson. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Nov 11, 2014 |
# ¿ Nov 11, 2014 23:21 |
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Nobody ever revisited Morwen or the Digger (JMS's other original villains) again, did they?
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2014 02:06 |
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Didn't Carlyle get killed at the end of his first appearance as well? I think his armour sort of eats him?
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2014 10:03 |
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Sentinel Red posted:Good to hear Newspaper Spidey survived but what this event really needs is Jay Pinkerton Newspaper Spidey showing up in the darkest hour to save the day for the other Spideys. FAPPO!
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2014 14:25 |
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I've been reading some of the David Michelinie stuff from the late 1980s, early 1990s. It's surprising that he was on the book for as long as he was (seven years; he's had second-longest continuous solo run after Stan Lee), because it doesn't feel very distinctive in the same way that longer runs like JMS or Slott do. I don't know if it's because he was overshadowed by the aritsts he worked with (McFarlane and Larsen) or because he was under a lot of pressure from his editors to do stuff a certain way, but I'm not sure if ever really found a voice for the series.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2014 19:40 |
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Yeah, it's really good. I got the Roger Stern omnibus when it came out earlier this year, having only ever read "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" before, and it's become my second-favourite Spider-Man run after the original one.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2014 17:05 |
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I've not read DeMatteis's run on Amazing (aside from #400) but if it's even half as good as "Kraven's Last Hunt" I'll certainly have to give it a go. I think they're both underrated writers. I read an interview from a few years ago where Stern said he might have stayed on Spider-Man if he'd been aware that Ron Frenz (who illustrated "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man") was going to be taking over from JRJR as penciller; that would've made for a really good team as well.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2014 23:17 |
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I like Peter David writing Spider-Man. I know a lot of people aren't keen, but I enjoyed "The Death of Jean DeWolff" the first time I read it. And, of course, there's the one where he gets stuck in the suburbs and there's nothing for him to swing from.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2014 17:35 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I have never heard people badmouth death of Jean Dewolff, is that a thing? I was under the impression that it had come under fire for a) trying too hard to be dark and gritty and b) fridging DeWolff, but maybe that's a less widespread response than I thought. It and "Kraven's Last Hunt" are both really dark stories, but I think they're as good as they are because they're dark without being gratuitously so. They'd both be in my top ten list of favourite Spider-Man stories. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Nov 29, 2014 |
# ¿ Nov 29, 2014 18:00 |
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They did it in the animated series as well; the Spider-Man who stopped the burglar (and thus never learned to use his powers responsibly) is a multi-billionaire industrialist and national celebrity who's engaged to Gwen Stacy, has Wilson Fisk as his lawyer and J. Jonah Jameson as his godfather, owns a giant Spider-Man robot, and is so accustomed to winning that he never even considers the possibility of failure.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 01:36 |
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Oh, yeah, and didn't it have lasers or miniature rocket launchers as well as web-shooters?
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 02:11 |
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The Batgirl inspiration's clear, but my first thought was the short-lived Wonder Woman redesign from the JMS run just before the New 52.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2014 19:30 |
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Looks more like it's been signed by someone called "Tojfy" to me.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2015 18:47 |
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I think I've asked this before, but was the "The Non-Mutant Superhero" caption on the covers of that era a joke about Spidey being the biggest non-X-Men property at Marvel, or was it there because X-Men were such a big deal that anything with the word "mutant" on it would sell?
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2015 20:27 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:Ock, however, is a brilliant scientist in his own right and has proven it time and time again. He had a horrible accident happen to him and instead of doing something good, he became selfish. He's more of a polar opposite of Peter than Norman is, but their rivalry has never been about identities. It is that both think the other is wasting their talent. At some points in his life, you could probably say Norman was insane and not in full control of his actions. I think that is much less of a case with Otto. Even in the often cited "I will cure you from this unknowable disease" during the Clone Saga of Ock's great heart, the ending has him admitting he's only doing it so he can kill Spider-Man later in life, and then Kaine just rips his head off or whatever anyway. I actually think Ock has stayed more true to his roots than Norman, and that's probably because he's rarely used outside of the spider-books. One of my favourite Ock stories is actually from JMS's run, when he fights the crooked business executive who nicked the design for his arms. There's one great scene where Ock's fight with the other bad guy wrecks a hotel lobby, and Peter has to hold up the entire building before it collapses on the civilians; Ock helps him until everyone is out safely, then says, "You are not a civilian. Goodbye." and leaves him to get crushed by falling rubble.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2015 23:17 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:Peter was a TA while working on an unspecified master's degree back in the 80s with Stern. In the Byrne/Mackie reboot he was a lab assistant for like 2 issues. I remember he was employed at this major R&D firm around the same time MJ was a supermodel, but then during the story arc where Mary Jane has a stalker who fakes her death in a plane crash (it's a really bad story that ultimately goes nowhere), I'm fairly sure he actually lost his job because all his ideas and research were too innovative. After that, he gets booted out of his fancy penthouse because MJ's agent nicked all her money and did a runner on them, and he ends up moving into a swinging bachelor's pad with Joe Robertson's son, who helps him get back into the dating game (the whole thing reads kinda like a dry-run for OMD, in retrospect).
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2015 01:23 |
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I like Ron Frenz. I'm not sure where he fits in on the Definitive List of the All-Time Greatest Spider-Man Artists, but I like his art for Spider-Man. Roger Stern said he might have stayed on ASM after #252 if he'd known ahead of time that Frenz was lined up to replace Romita, Jr., which could have been fun.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2015 21:54 |
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Rhyno posted:I hope the next version of Peter involves him growing a neckbeard and wearing a Spider-fedora. "Welcome to my world of Spider-Atheism, feminazis!"
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2015 01:16 |
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Waterhaul posted:Well that's just big two comics. I remember reading a while ago that Strange was introduced in the 1960s as having been born in 1930, and they've stuck to that ever since, with the excuse that his magic has sustained his youth. Probably no longer an official explanation, though. Isn't Frank Castle still a Vietnam veteran, or has he been "upgraded" to the Gulf or Iraq?
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2015 16:16 |
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Should've followed cartoon precedent and used Spider-Carnage.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2015 15:01 |
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I've not read much of Dan Slott's run on Spider-Man, but the more I read about it (mainly in this thread), the more he comes off as a less sexist-seeming version of Steven Moffat.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2015 14:54 |
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Aye, I believe he spent a lot of time in the UK in the 1970s and became a fan as a kid.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2015 15:06 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 08:52 |
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Yeah, but Roger Stern was one of those guys, wasn't he? And Roger Stern also thought it was a bad idea for Peter Parker to get married. Personally, I don't know what to believe any more.
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# ¿ May 23, 2015 21:52 |