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XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

TwoPair posted:

Honestly, so am I. I know deep down that it'll probably be disappointing, but I am a sucker for crossovers and character interacting with alternate versions of themselves. I mean, it's stupid, but if Waterhaul's description of it being like the finale of the 90s cartoon is even close to accurate, well then gently caress it, it'll probably be good enough for me.

I hope all the Spider-Mans have to hold hands to defeat the final enemy.

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XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Gatts posted:

He can work and do something amazing but it means pushing Spider-man into areas the fanboys probably wouldn't be comfortable with and taking him somewhere else. Not a bad fit, he can do great things, he just needs to think it through, but it won't be accepted because its not what people would be used to. Like the whole "lol totems, wtf?" poo poo. Like, finally some writer does something different and interesting, however flawed, but its lambasted because it isn't single Parker luck Spider-man fighting street level crime and cracking wise like I'm used to.

Yeah, I really really enjoyed the JMS run. It got more and more off the rails towards the end but it was still a lot of fun. Who was writing when Peter became a high-school science teacher in a bad part of town? I feel like that will always be my idea of what adult Peter Parker would do for a living.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

PoshAlligator posted:

100x better than Slott's fart jokes, a weird unnatural scene where Pete and MJ laugh at him asking to move in, and then him magically getting a job at a science place because he can make up a complex equation while trying to switch a machine off or something.

Just reading Big Time. Not feeling it.

It's really interesting how two people can do stories about Peter finally getting recognition as a genius and getting a tech job, and just how far apart those two stories can be.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

SirDan3k posted:

Look Peter has had a lot of concussions okay? The guy is lucky if he can keep his days of the week and colors straight.

I mean remember when he thought he was Doc Ock for a bit?

So you're saying Brand New Day is basically the "gas leak year" of Spider-Man?

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Gatts posted:

Peter Gwen and MJ is basically Archie Betty and Veronica love triangle. Done well it is a lot of fun and the cattiness is more playful than vicious.

I don't know if this makes me a bad person but I really liked Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane and it was pretty much this. Like someone else said, leaving the main continuity alone and just making a throwback book like this seems like a million times better option if Marvel feels like Spider-Man needs a version that kids can relate to.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Jason Ray posted:

I for one would love to read a current in-continuity book about a middle aged, divorced, deadbeat dad Spider-man that--wait...I just described a Cyclops story didn't I?

Modern burn-out Cyclops is great so I'm gonna say I support this. Just pull a reverse OMD and get a young thirties married with a kid Spider-man barely supporting his family. Or hell, MJ is a supermodel so maybe Peter's job doesn't even matter that much.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

CharlestheHammer posted:

Eh it worked for over 20 years.

I also don't think it "went against the character" or whatever, the character has bascally two things on the checklist.

1. Power and responsibility.

2. heaps of guilt.

Have those and you are fine.

There's also an "up-and-comer making his way in the world today" angle that Benedick Cuckold is identifying as being "youth", but I don't think it's about youth. You don't have to be a teen in highschool to deal with that.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Senor Candle posted:

Not really. He had one decent issue but the rest of it is the same tracing garbage.

That's the worst thing about Land, to me. He can draw his own pictures, and have them not look like porn, he just chooses not to.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Die Laughing posted:

Been reading Spider-Man comics on and off since I was seven, and going on thirty this year, I hope Peter always stays young. Marrying him off, giving him kids and a stable job, is just too far away from what made Spider-Man such a hugely popular character. We want to see the characters we love grow and change the way our lives do, but Spidey should be preserved for future generations.

But... even if Peter grows up, the old stories are preserved for future generations. I'm not exactly sure what you think is going to happen if Peter ages in the comics - it's not as if the old stories get burned in a fire, and they're apparently still perfectly accessible to youths, since you yourself admit to growing up on Spider-Man stories from 20 years before you were born.

People who think change would be cool aren't trying to retroactively take away the old stories you like. You'll still have the decades upon decades of comics and cartoons that you treasure, and they'll still keep making great "Young Spider-Man" adaptations like Ultimate Spider-Man and the amazing Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon from a couple years back.

Future generations won't be losing anything.

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XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

SirDan3k posted:

People say that about X-23 origins but they are only about as grimdark as Wolverine's.

I think they might be talking about real-time origins, like first-appearance, not the background of the character.

Wolverine's first apperance was as a campy enemy of the Hulk. The grimdark stuff got added on later, really. (I think?) X-23's first appearance was as a (child?) prostitute and I think the next place she showed up was her ongoing where she got said grimdark origin story.

(well... unless you count X-Men Evolution, which I guess you could)

XboxPants fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Feb 12, 2015

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