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Skwirl posted:Wasn't disagreement over The Green Goblin's identity at least partially responsible for Steve Ditko leaving both Spider-Man and Marvel? We'll never know for sure but I would hope that Goblin's identity was not that important to Ditko. I figure it was more like Ditko kept wanting the stories to go one way and Stan kept saying no and this particular time was just the last straw. Also, Goblin identity stories never go well. Norman's reveal cost them Ditko, the Bart Hamilton reveal was lame, Hobgoblin was a decade-plus clusterfuck of a mystery that pleased nobody... Does Menace count as well? She's not exactly a counter argument either.
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ImpAtom posted:It's always really odd to me in a universe where souls are demonstrably proven to exist that digital mind clones don't cause more fuckups. it means either someone figured out how to digitize the soul or they are weird soulless bodies running around fueled entirely by false self or somehow souls are created out of nothing Digital minds and characters who have supernatural possession-type powers like Sandman lead one to conclude that there is the terrifying prospect of minds being potentially immortal. How does a brain in a jar stop thinking or kill itself?
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Oct 17, 2016 21:40
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Rubiks Pubes posted:I am really tired of them trotting out clones of Gwen Stacy every time the jackal is involved with anything. It's about as bad as sinister and his fleet of Scott and jean clones. Like that Garth Ennis "superhero" Dogwelder, maybe Jackal needs a name change. Beware the guile of the gruesome... Gwencloner!
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Oct 27, 2016 19:10
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Petercloner!
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Oct 27, 2016 19:42
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All masked henchmen are clones of Gwen. Every supervillain's got `em.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:56
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Spider-Man's costume was designed in the 60s. Maybe that's what they're going for.
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Nov 11, 2016 19:52
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Spider-Man's identity has rarely been 100% secure. Times when nobody has known who he is are very few and very short. There's been somebody who's known who he is since, what... Romita-era Green Goblin?
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Dec 14, 2016 21:48
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Yvonmukluk posted:Hell, as per Parallel Lives, MJ knew all along. Yeah, with the retcon it's been since Day 1 but I mean from the experience of readers following along in real time it's still pretty early that someone finds out.
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Dec 14, 2016 23:08
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An out-of-the-blue question: does anyone picture Peter's face when they see Spider-Man? Whenever I see Peter doing Spider-Man stuff in his regular clothes, or if he's fighting without his mask for some reason, it's always shocking to see how they draw it, especially if his expression is that of anger or crying out. It looks wrong. Made me realize that I never think about Peter's face being behind the mask. Spider-Man's mask is Spider-Man's face to me. Saying that out loud (or typing it, w/e) makes it sound like maybe the biggest "yeah, no poo poo Lobok" statement but I just never articulated it to myself before.
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Dec 16, 2016 16:25
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Vince MechMahon posted:I always liked when his mouth would open up and his face would be in the mouth. I'm the opposite. Brock Venom is supposed to be the symbiote being inextricably bonded. I prefer that the face/head you see is the only one.
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Jan 4, 2017 14:07
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Android Blues posted:I like the symbiote being able to peel away from parts of Brock to show the man underneath To be clear, I don't dislike this. It's just that when the symbiote is covering his head, that should be the only head. Same as The Mask. It's not a covering that talks and animates separately and over top of Brock's face. They're one and the same.
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Jan 4, 2017 16:44
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Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends is on Netflix and I checked out an episode. That is one rough cartoon. I don't know what I was expecting but the animation was terrible. The show skewed much younger than I thought, too. Oh, and "Spider-Friends Go For It!" can't hold a candle to "Wallopin' Websnappers!"
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Jan 7, 2017 05:16
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Gaz-L posted:The two most notable things are Frank Welker recycling the Freddie from Scooby Doo voice as Iceman, which is a weird choice, and how blatantly Firestar is just MJ with superpowers. Yeah I heard Welker instantly, though I've never been much of a Scooby fan so to me it sounds like Ray from The Real Ghostbusters. I think I remember hearing that the Ray/Freddie type voice is pretty much just how Frank Welker sounds normally. It's his villains and animals that are the real efforts. Good call on Firestar. There's a part where the three of them are hanging out with Aunt May and I was confused for a sec, especially since nobody in the episode (the very first one) is ever properly introduced. Really seemed like MJ with brown hair.
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Jan 8, 2017 03:23
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The red and blue on his forearm look weird. Without any clear markings between them, those two colours mixed like with the musculature make it look like an anatomy figure. And that mouth, what the gently caress? Does anybody at Marvel remember when Bagley was good at making costumes? No, of course not, because there was never a time.
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Jan 9, 2017 21:53
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`spose if Brock has to be back as Venom we might as well get some good art out of it (for one issue...?) https://twitter.com/TraddMoore/status/832310679017291776
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Feb 16, 2017 22:12
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Vince MechMahon posted:Is he going to be back as Venom permanently or is this just a history of Venom leading to Brock, but not Brock in the symbiote, coming back? Cause that's definitely a "history of venom" splash thing there. It's a history of both of them, which is fitting if they're ending back up together. We don't see the beginning with Peter's time with the symbiote but we see other people the symbiote has been with, and its spawn, and we see Brock's time both before the symbiote and after they had separated.
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Feb 17, 2017 04:55
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Yvonmukluk posted:Yeah, in the aftermath of Clone Conspiracy, I think Chris Yost's Clone Saga sequel idea would have been far superior: How much would you bet that it would feature the "Mr. Sinister Six" at some point?
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Feb 23, 2017 23:02
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think you mean 'Sinister's Six'. OK but only if Spider-Man points out that it's really awkward enunciating the two consecutive S's.
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Feb 24, 2017 00:27
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It also is a callback to a very early issue of Amazing when Pete and Flash were still in high school and one of the teachers had them try to settle their differences in the gym's boxing ring. Which sounds horrifically sadistic if the teacher knew anything about the jock/nerd bully/victim relationship the two of them had.
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Mar 18, 2017 19:19
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Is this the part where I rant that Pete should have been the one to take Norman down in Siege? If the resurrection and recharacterization of Osborn was to make him a villain for the wider Marvel U than it stands to reason that Spider-Man shouldn't always be the go-to for solving an Osborn problem.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:47
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Wheat Loaf posted:I like Doc Ock as Spider-Man's arch-enemy better than the Green Goblin. I think a lot of Osborn being Peter's worst enemy is retroactively applied and if you go back and read a lot of those Silver Age and Bronze Age issues, Doc Ock is still treated as the "main" bad guy. Goblins as a whole are arguably Spider-Man's greatest villain, not any single Goblin. Norman's legacy in other words (until he came back) because Harry became one and because it spawned Hobgoblin.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:34
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Wheat Loaf posted:I like Doc Ock as Spider-Man's arch-enemy better than the Green Goblin. I think a lot of Osborn being Peter's worst enemy is retroactively applied and if you go back and read a lot of those Silver Age and Bronze Age issues, Doc Ock is still treated as the "main" bad guy. Depends what you mean by staying power. Do they have to appear regularly? Because someone like Cardiac seemed destined to remain a relic of Bagley's run on Amazing back in the early 90s but he was used around the time of Superior Spider-Man. Speaking of the 90s, TV animated series boosted Hydro-Man's profile and he's made a decent number of appearances in Spider-Man and FF comics since then. The 80s gangmembers have lasted pretty well, too. You mentioned Hammerhead but Tombstone, too. The Rose hung around for a while, like I remember him being a part of Spider-Hunt. Was Spot already mentioned?
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Mar 30, 2017 14:53
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I know you asked for the current main title but if you've been out of the game for this long then that means you missed the vast majority of Ultimate Spider-Man, which was never the main title but has been the biggest comics influence on all other Spider-Man media and adaptations since...? Norman Osborn's return in the mid-to-late 90s?
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Jul 7, 2017 23:19
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Lurdiak posted:Norman's return in the 90s, as lovely as it was, kinda set the stage for the Ultimate line, didn't it? What with turning Norman into a boring dimestore Lex Luthor mastermind type who has big evil plans but maintains a respectable facade. Probably set the tone yeah. Maybe Bendis would have done it anyway since it was a reimagining but Osborn back in the day was much more sympathetic and perhaps tragic. It really did seem as though he sufferred this terrible second personality from the accident rather than him being an evil industrialist prick to begin with. The 90s cartoon and Raimi both did the classic Osborn but everything else does the Luthor-style Osborn.
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Jul 7, 2017 23:37
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Vince MechMahon posted:In the 90's cartoon Norman was literally working with the Kingpin and designed and outfitted the Hobgoblin before becoming the Green Goblin. There are two parts to it. Not just what he was doing but how he was going about it. You're disputing the "evil industrialist" part and you're right about what Osborn was doing. I don't remember the plot well enough to know but was Osborn pressured or blackmailed into doing it? I remember him acting like he was constantly on the verge of a breakdown. The other part is the Luthor-style mastermind. What I do remember about that cartoon is Osborn's personality and the power dynamic between him and the Kingpin. In that show Osborn was weak and decidedly un-Luthor like. It was the Goblin persona, that second personality I mentioned from classic pre-death comics, that was differentiated from Osborn as the powerful villain. Whereas when he returned in the comics he was just one personality who was supremely confident and competent in both his business and villainy. No more of those Romita panels of Osborn covered in flop sweat, all dazed and confused. No more Peter wondering if Osborn was over it, or cured, like it was a medical condition and not who he actually was as a person.
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irlZaphod posted:I read the first 2 issues of Peter Parker: Spectacular Spider-Man. It's good, and it's fun, but I dunno. I kind of like my Spidey books with more of a serious tone, and humour injected into it, if that makes sense. I suppose it's not a bad thing to differentiate the two Peter Parker Spidey books on the stands, though. Having different styles and tones is definitely better. Not like the old days when each title was simply another storyline that was somehow happening at the same time as the others.
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